Pope Francis blasts American Catholics and marginalizes them and seems not to welcome them since they are backwardists. He kind of implies a sort of excommunication for their public sins against him and doctrine as the Holy Father understands it and its development.
Pope Francis blasts reactionary American Catholics who oppose church reform
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POPE FRANCIS: "What I don't like at all, in general, is that we look at the so-called 'sin of the flesh' with a magnifying glass," said Francis. "If you exploited workers, if you lied or cheated, it didn't matter, and instead relevant were the sins below the waist."
"We must not be superficial and naive, forcing people into things and behaviors for which they are not yet mature, or are not capable," Francis said. "To accompany people spiritually and pastorally takes a lot of sensitivity and creativity."
The pope went on to recount his numerous meetings with transgender people, whom he said felt rejected by the church.
"Everyone, everyone, everyone, are called to live in the church," he told the Jesuits. "Never forget that."
MY COMMENTS: This is 1970’s false equivalents that I was taught at my progressive seminary in Baltimore. In my 43 years as a priest, I don’t know that I ever asked someone not to do something until I learned in a public way that someone was cheating, someone was embezzling, that someone was exploiting. None of these things were the silly phrase “below the waist” issue. Most sexual sins are private and are not known in a widespread way and are handled in the confessional. But if one starts proclaiming at Church meetings how much they love pornography and like to masturbate to it and they want to teach our children and others, do we say, okay, since we don’t want to exclude you, you are welcome to do as you please.
And what about men who say they are women and they want to be the president of the Council of Catholic Women and he who proclaims that now they are a she and are married to a he, are we to glorify that and ignore it and let them become the president of the CCW, distribute Holy Communion and teach in our schools and religious education programs?
The same with the man or woman who publicly proclaims their racism, their affiliation with groups that oppose the Church, like Masons and other anti-Catholic groups. do we say, it is okay with us, remain in the Church and on our pastoral council, leaders of groups, bringing Holy Communion to those you want, but not blacks.
It is amazing that he blasts Americans who he says are backwardists and really marginalizes them, but when it comes to the sins of the flesh, even with clerics who sexually abuse seminarians, think Zanchetta, and abuse nuns, think Rupnick and tries to find places for them to work in the Church, think Barros, it is all because he doesn’t think sins below the waste should be treated so harshly. This kind of 1970’s thinking is what led to the sexual abuse crisis in the Church in the 1970’s not only of minors but vulnerable adults. Pope Francis is a 1970’s progressive and hasn’t grown out of it or developed since that time when it comes to the sins of the flesh.
Me thinks that the Holy Father needs to think before he speaks. The shallowness and incoherence are breathtaking.
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And he doubled down on inclusive sensibility with his recent remarks lauding imperialist Russia. We can be a Church made new more easily if we blow ourselves up.
And if you thought the last Peter's Pence collection was niggardly, wait 'till you see the next one. US Catholics are fed up with his insults and opprobrium.
He’s bonkers. His ravings suggest dementia. He also called the US Church reactionary and ideological. Talk about projection. He is a leftwing ideologue and certainly not Catholic
Have we gotten to the point yet where Pope Francis simply isn't teaching the faith anymore? In regard to this whole pontificate, modernism isn't the Catholic faith.
Given the way he ignored parents protesting abuse of disabled children in his own diocese and has protected/promoted those accused of gross sins and cover-ups, when these accusations were already public knowledge, and that he surrounded himself with these perverted people as his closest advisors, I frankly consider him stained himself if not actually guilty of same, but consider guilt highly likely. This all not to mention his rage and instability, and petty vindictiveness. We have have had wicked popes before and likely have one now, and I am not beholden to a pope I consider emotionally deficient and morally bankrupt.
We are talking a pope going to Mongolia with 1500 Catholic population who has yet to visit his own country because he knows the public reaction to him will likely have his life in danger and certainly would be the ugliest scene as for press coverage, where he was safer in Islamic countries than in his own.
TJM, I wish it was dementia.
Pope Francis has told the irrefutable, undeniable truth in regard to "very strong, reactionary" groups who inhabit the Church in the United States.
Not surprisingly, reactionary folks who trash Pope Francis daily are intolerant of Pope Francis' right to speak his mind.
Pope Francis said: "The situation in the United States is not easy: There is a very strong, reactionary attitude. It is organized and shapes the way people belong, even emotionally."
Pope Francis is 100 percent correct in regard to that. The above is undeniable.
The good news is that the overwhelming amount of Catholics within the United States love and respect Pope Francis. Said folks do not stand with vicious, wealthy, well-coordinated, anti-Pope Francis reactionary groups.
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Speaking of groups who have directed attacks against Pope Francis:
The American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property™ (TFP™) has promoted the book: The Synodal Process Is a Pandora’s Box: 100 Questions & Answers (with a forward by Cardinal Burke).
The reactionaries at said organization have a list of nasty articles that they have aimed at Pope Francis. TFP™ has wished us to believe that a Catholic who rejects Pope Francis' Magisterium stands on firm ground.
For example, said reactionary group has insisted: "With full peace of mind and knowing that they are obedient and faithful to Our Lord Jesus Christ, priests can respectfully resist Traditionis Custodes..."
That is the type of reactionary outfit faced by Pope Francis.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Sophia here: AMEN Father! And even more insidious is that in fact baptized American Catholics are increasingly accepting, enabling -and at least remaining silent about- the sins below the waist, abortion, physician assisted suicide, medical “ treatment “ of gender
confusion- to name just a few examples. The hierarchy and lay Catholics who adhere to perennial Biblical and Church Teaching are the ones actually being marginalized, ostracized, cancelled, and penalized! It’s not the other way around. The victims of this persecution are being victimized again, by being accused of, and condemned as being the victimizers- doubly so, if they protest against this demonization, however weakly! This is gaslighting at it’s most effective!
Mark Thomas,
LOL! You are as unhinged from reality as your Golden Calf
His comments about how doctrine always progresses is textbook modernist. The mask has slipped before but now it is entirely off.
ByzRus, this is the man, who in his encylical on prayer, of all things, said that contemplatives needed to leave their cloisters and go out and get real jobs as social activists.
Where my thought is he needs to put iron in those words and quit the papacy to work as a social worker, rather than just brief photo ops for press.
MT, very good job spouting Marxist buzzwords just like your fave leftist dictator. May I suggest that instead of "laity" that you use "proletariate" for better consistancy in flow of your few personal interjections between the unrelenting eye-glazing string of disjointed search results?
The Pope has stated that nations need to abandon fossil fuels. What does that have to do with Catholicism? He is virtue signaling leftwing propaganda. I no longer contribute to Peter’s Pence for good reason!
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