We require parents to have their children baptized and reared as Catholics.
We evangelize and some proselytize others who are not Catholic and we especially target sinners to convert and become Catholic.
Is it a straw man that the pope continues to emphasize the Church is for everyone, everyone, everyone???
When has it not been?
And on top of that all Catholics are required by divine and human law to attend Mass each and every Sunday and Holy Day of Obligation under the penalty of mortal sin if they don’t!
And I can top that, once a Catholic always a Catholic even if the Catholic denounces and renounces his Catholic baptism.
As it concerns LGBTQ+++ marriages and women clergy, the Church has clear teachings on the divinely revealed truth as to whom can be married and cannot be married and who is the proper “substance” for priestly ordination. You don’t need to speak off the cuff to teach this as though it is a gnostic personal opinion. It is a part of the Church’s Deposit of Faith and Pope Francis in the past has eloquently spoken the Church’s teaching on why women can’t be ordained and that it is a part of the Church’s ordinary Magisterium and no pope or synod can change that—human power in the Church is limited, thanks be to God!
What do you think about the pope emphasizing a straw man about inclusivity?
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What we are seeing and hearing with "Todos, todos, todos" is a not so subtle, pre-figurement of the predetermined outcome of the "Synod". It's done! The Germans have been the "water carriers" for the Pope. I've said this many, many times. Francis knows what he wants and is taking the church on a torturous journey to ultimately get to his end point. The obvious answer to the question posed in "Can I ask a question...?" is 'no, the church has never excluded anyone'. That said, Francis is determined to go further and expand the meaning of this. In his "Jesuit Way" he is laying the groundwork for his outcome which was determined long, long ago and he will do it with "theology" that only a Jesuit could craft. Real theologians see right through him.
The Bishop of Rome says whatever he thinks is popular and supports his vision for the Church. He does not follow his own preaching but that is to be expected by now. Tom has it right; this cleric has an idea to start a Church more to his liking than the one entrusted to him. Perhaps a merciful God will take him before he can see his plans through.
The statement that the Church includes everyone is false. Homosexuals are wanted as long as they admit to God’s Law and at least struggle with their sins, same as everyone else. It is that admission and act of contrition that opens the door to forgiveness. I think the Holy Father suffers the same weakness of character that afflicts us all when we have to tell people we love they are screwing up.
Even secular and religious reporters see the incoherence or lack of explaining adequately why the Church includes everyone but when it comes to the sacraments there are human and divine laws that regulate who can receive a Sacrament, all of the sacraments, to include baptism for adults, as well as Confirmation, Holy Eucharist, Penance, Unction, Holy Matrimony and Sacred Orders. It is disingenuous not to way what excludes a person from becoming a Catholic and what excludes Catholics already baptized from receiving the other sacraments. That is the issue. There are requirements for the Sacraments, all of them. But once someone is initiated into the Church, at least through baptism, they are Catholic, they are Christian. But separation from the Church is usually self-imposed by entering into mortal sin especially in an institutional way which then gives scandal to others. I
Here is an example of the completely inadequate answer to reporters who ask a question about inclusivity given the pope’s bizarre emphasis on todos, todos, todos?
Asked why the church was not a place of equality for women and members of the LGBTQ+ community given that they cannot receive all of the Church’s sacraments, Pope Francis said, “The Church is open to everyone, then there is legislation that regulates life inside of the Church.”
According to the church’s legislation, these groups cannot have access to the sacraments, he said, but insisted that “this doesn’t mean that it is closed.”
As Cardinal George said: "All are indeed welcome, but on Christ's terms, not their own."
Cardinal George was replaced by a leftist, intellectual lightweight, a perfect fit in today’s Vatican
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