EVIDENTLY, JESUS IS THE WRONG COLOR, SO IT MAKES SENSE TO DESTROY HIS SACRED IMAGE
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Tom Marcus
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One cannot help but notice one characteristic that most of these nihilistic vandals and protesters have in common: They all appear to be miserable. Just take a look at some of these "white privileged" students who are so "concerned" about racial inequality:
Of course, this also exposes the diabolical element. Satan and his minions have lost their place in Heaven and they are eternally miserable and there is no reversing it. Since they cannot possibly ever attain the height they once held, they want to do all they can to keep anyone else from enjoying the eternal communion with God. Their only M.O. is destruction. "I'm miserable, so I'm going to make others miserable too" essentially. The reality of spiritual warfare is that Lucifer and his demonic host want to destroy, because they cannot create and they are completely incapable of love. They destroy families, careers, lives and, ultimately souls.
There is no "avoiding" this war. It was declared upon your soul the moment you were baptized. There is no negotiating with this enemy. You're either all-in with Jesus Christ or you're just cooperating with evil, be it passively or actively. Only Jesus Christ can deliver us and save us. Only a closer union with him can neutralize the attacks of the enemy.
Weaponize yourself. Daily rosary, frequent Confession, Mass. Constant prayer. Repent and do penance not just for yourself but for others. And a good place to start might just be for us to do penance, fast and pray for these misguided (and possibly demonically oppressed) vandals and "protesters". For the time being, they are lost.
And a good place for us to start is by offering our sufferings for these misguided vandals and "protesters". Pray for them, fast for them, do penance for them, because, for now, they are lost.
And at the risk of being tedious...a lot of these misguided youths never had ANY religious instruction, or what little they had was compromised by bad examples, divorced parents, compromised versions of Christianity and a liberal education that mocks religion. If we had grown up in their shoes, we might be just as ignorant. They need our prayers, because probably nobody else IS praying for them.
The streets of America’s cities are filled with the mentally ill who aren’t getting the help they need. Walk around Savannah for a half hour and you’ll see. This fellow looks and sounds like one of those tortured souls who likely struggles with schizophrenia, drug problems and petty crime.
Most likely, this guy grew up **obsessed** with religion, who’s right, who’s wrong, who’s pure, who’s a sinner. Conspiracy theories and heretics and apostates. That’s where this sort of rage comes from. It wouldn’t occur to the average “None” on the street to vandalize a statue. For them, the Church might as well be on another planet.
I saw the Hunchback... recently on TCM. He was messed up not because of addictions or ideologies that influenced him, he was born with birth defects. He took care of Notre Dame, didn't destroy it and fought against the rioting mobs who were trying to get in to take the heroine and hang her, she being a gypsy. I am not clear, a@8:44 what your point is, the Hunchback was a figure of the Sacred Heart, the guy who looked pretty messed up was opposed to the Sacred Heart or the color of the skin in which this 90 year old statue depicted our Lord. He vandalized the church and destroyed a statue worth about $25,000.
I havw to agree Father. I suspect this anonymous fellow might just be speaking to some of use who discuss where we stand in the Church and perhaps believes that he is "above" the divisions. While nobody wants divisions, they are a reality and they exist because of the deep convictions held by the people who populate those very factions. Unity is nice, but Jesus also said that He came not to bring peace, but a sword.
Coach K, I moast heartily agree that one's actions, not appearance should be the standard for conviction or acquittal.
I merely brought up his (and others) miserable appearance to point out the obvious fact that much of the vandalism being done in the name of "justice" or "social correction" or whatever they think they're doing, is being done by people who are so inherently miserable, hateful and unhappy that nothing is going to satisfy them--and much of that mindset comes from the way these kins were raised...or should I say morally neglected and inculcated with lies.
Tom: And yet, he's called the Prince of Peace, not the Prince of Whacking People Who Disagree With You With a Sword. The Sermon on the Mount is pretty clear on what sort of world we should strive for. We are one family and the differences between us are artificial and man-made. The sword quote is legit, of course, but there are many, many more verses in the Bible about peace, seeking peace, working for peace.
Tom, you are reading an awful lot into a mugshot of what is likely a disturbed young man. His politics unclear at this point. There’s no indication that he was conspiring with anybody else. Nor have we heard of any BLM-related protesters attaching churches or vandalizing statues. There are no facts that support putting this on a larger context or blaming anyone besides Mr. Cantrell. There is no “they,” only him.
When I saw the young man's face, he simply reminded me of what seems to be a common current among the disgruntled who are ravaging our cities--an irrepressible misery. Whether he is one of them or not, I have no idea.
I did not specifically mention BLM (I prefer not to even think about them) but if you think protesters are not vandalizing statues, tell that to Archbishop Cordileone in San Francisco or the priests and laity who have tried to protect statues in St. Louis, Ventura County Ca and elsewhere.
Anonymous,
You can call the differences in Christianity man made, and they might be, but many of them are diabolically inspired. Striving for peace is great, but keeping it is another story. Martin Luther divided Christianity and Europe. People there thought their faith was worth fighting for and I would never have told any of the Catholics fighting off a Protestant Prince out to conquer them that they should just "surrender" because "Jesus wants peace." False peace is no peace.
HEADLINE: Cardinal Tobin: A 'person in good conscience' could vote for Biden
Father, I realize you are the "king," "master of your domain," "fair or not fair," etc etc. etc. However, I was still surprised you did not take note of this statement by the Cardinal of Newark, which supports analysis by several posters here. I particularly like the statement that some pro-Trunp priests were adopting "political talking points" rather than accurately explaining church teaching.
Cardinal Tobin: A 'person in good conscience' could vote for Biden
In response to a question echoing recent controversial statements by clergy and others as to whether Catholics can vote for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden in good conscience, Cardinal Joseph Tobin of Newark, New Jersey, indicated on Tuesday that he was personally more vexed by the prospect of voting for President Donald Trump.
"I think that a person in good conscience could vote for Mr. Biden," said Tobin. "I, frankly, in my own way of thinking have a more difficult time with the other option."
The New Jersey cardinal's remarks came during a Sept. 15 panel discussion co-sponsored by the Boston College's Boisi Center for Religion and American Public Life, Trinity College's Greenberg Center for the Study of Religion in Public Life and St. Anselm College's New Hampshire Institute of Politics on "The Church and Catholic Voters in the 2020 Election," moderated by Boisi Center director Fr. Mark Massa.
Tobin went on to call voting a "sacred act" and rejected the idea that Catholics must cast their votes based on a candidate's position on a single issue.
"I don't think that we can reduce [it], at least in the current panorama of issues, to how a candidate stands on a single issue," he said.
"No political party represents fully the Catholic tradition," said Tobin. "I think of the two options we have on the national scene of the two political parties, there's serious reason not to consider either party as being representative of the Catholic tradition."
(your blog does not allow me to send the entire story but you can find it at the link above).
Tom & 6:05 pm — “Diabolically inspired” Religious differences is what gave Europe a thousand years of war. Catholics fighting off a Protestant prince, who’s aligned with the Lutheran king, who is fighting a war with the Catholic king, who’s in schism vs. the other Catholic king, who hates the English king, who’s persecuting the Huguenots, who’s protesting the Pope, who’s persecuting the Jews and so on and so on. For Pete’s sake, we finally got Northern Ireland sorted out in our lifetime, knock on wood. This is the main reason Europe is largely post-Christian nowadays.
“Diabolically inspired” also flies in the face of Catholic teaching, which holds that we should respect other faiths and live peacefully side by side. There’s a difference between “spiritual warfare” and actual God-inspired warfare.
Friends, this is all you need to know about Cardinal Tobin. I think it demonstrates why a good Catholic should not take election advice from him:
"On September 1, 2018, Cardinal Tobin told a journalist for the North Jersey Record that he didn’t investigate allegations against Theodore McCarrick because he didn’t think they were true. The journalist reported that “Tobin told me that soon after arriving in Newark, he heard ‘rumors’ about McCarrick’s beach house. But he never bothered to check them out. He says he thought the story was too ‘incredulous’ to believe.” (Catholic News Agency)"
If UNITY is so important to Christianity (and it is), then anything that would separate us IS diabolically inspired. The dissolution of Catholic monasteries caused rampant poverty in England, just so they could have religious "diversity". The hospital system created by Catholics, which did not charge for services, was eliminated in Lutheran countries when they were "reformed". Conversions were forced if your country lost the war. Would you call that divinely inspired? Would you call the loss of sacraments for millions of people and the loss of faith and the scandal of division divinely inspired?
God DOES have a permissive will, but that doesn't mean it's exactly what He wanted. Respecting other religions is one thing, but calling religious diversity God's will is pure nonsense--which is just one of many reasons pope Francis' Abu Dhabi sellout is such a shameful disgrace and embarrassment to anyone who understands the fundamentals of being a Catholic.
I would also add that Catholic teaching goes back a heck of a lot further than Vatican II's highly questionable Nostre Aetate, just one of many flawed documents from a compromised council whose true leaders operated in the shadows.
Real Catholic teaching does not contradict previous teachings.
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One cannot help but notice one characteristic that most of these nihilistic vandals and protesters have in common: They all appear to be miserable. Just take a look at some of these "white privileged" students who are so "concerned" about racial inequality:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/nypd-releases-mugshots-of-wealthy-ues-student-and-suspected-rioters/ar-BB18RQmF
Of course, this also exposes the diabolical element. Satan and his minions have lost their place in Heaven and they are eternally miserable and there is no reversing it. Since they cannot possibly ever attain the height they once held, they want to do all they can to keep anyone else from enjoying the eternal communion with God. Their only M.O. is destruction. "I'm miserable, so I'm going to make others miserable too" essentially. The reality of spiritual warfare is that Lucifer and his demonic host want to destroy, because they cannot create and they are completely incapable of love. They destroy families, careers, lives and, ultimately souls.
There is no "avoiding" this war. It was declared upon your soul the moment you were baptized. There is no negotiating with this enemy. You're either all-in with Jesus Christ or you're just cooperating with evil, be it passively or actively. Only Jesus Christ can deliver us and save us. Only a closer union with him can neutralize the attacks of the enemy.
Weaponize yourself. Daily rosary, frequent Confession, Mass. Constant prayer. Repent and do penance not just for yourself but for others. And a good place to start might just be for us to do penance, fast and pray for these misguided (and possibly demonically oppressed) vandals and "protesters". For the time being, they are lost.
And a good place for us to start is by offering our sufferings for these misguided vandals and "protesters". Pray for them, fast for them, do penance for them, because, for now, they are lost.
And at the risk of being tedious...a lot of these misguided youths never had ANY religious instruction, or what little they had was compromised by bad examples, divorced parents, compromised versions of Christianity and a liberal education that mocks religion. If we had grown up in their shoes, we might be just as ignorant. They need our prayers, because probably nobody else IS praying for them.
Tom Marcus - White privilege doesn't mean your life hasn't been hard. It means your skin tone isn't one of the things making it harder.
The streets of America’s cities are filled with the mentally ill who aren’t getting the help they need. Walk around Savannah for a half hour and you’ll see. This fellow looks and sounds like one of those tortured souls who likely struggles with schizophrenia, drug problems and petty crime.
Tom Marcus,
You have said it all! Amen!
Yeah, that poor guy looks pretty messed up.
Some people need to watch The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1939) again. It was the guy who looked "pretty messed up" who was the hero.
Most likely, this guy grew up **obsessed** with religion, who’s right, who’s wrong, who’s pure, who’s a sinner. Conspiracy theories and heretics and apostates. That’s where this sort of rage comes from. It wouldn’t occur to the average “None” on the street to vandalize a statue. For them, the Church might as well be on another planet.
I saw the Hunchback... recently on TCM. He was messed up not because of addictions or ideologies that influenced him, he was born with birth defects. He took care of Notre Dame, didn't destroy it and fought against the rioting mobs who were trying to get in to take the heroine and hang her, she being a gypsy. I am not clear, a@8:44 what your point is, the Hunchback was a figure of the Sacred Heart, the guy who looked pretty messed up was opposed to the Sacred Heart or the color of the skin in which this 90 year old statue depicted our Lord. He vandalized the church and destroyed a statue worth about $25,000.
I think his point is that the suspect should be judged on what he's done, not how he looks.
I havw to agree Father. I suspect this anonymous fellow might just be speaking to some of use who discuss where we stand in the Church and perhaps believes that he is "above" the divisions. While nobody wants divisions, they are a reality and they exist because of the deep convictions held by the people who populate those very factions. Unity is nice, but Jesus also said that He came not to bring peace, but a sword.
That's just what we are dealing with.
Coach K, I moast heartily agree that one's actions, not appearance should be the standard for conviction or acquittal.
I merely brought up his (and others) miserable appearance to point out the obvious fact that much of the vandalism being done in the name of "justice" or "social correction" or whatever they think they're doing, is being done by people who are so inherently miserable, hateful and unhappy that nothing is going to satisfy them--and much of that mindset comes from the way these kins were raised...or should I say morally neglected and inculcated with lies.
Tom: And yet, he's called the Prince of Peace, not the Prince of Whacking People Who Disagree With You With a Sword. The Sermon on the Mount is pretty clear on what sort of world we should strive for. We are one family and the differences between us are artificial and man-made. The sword quote is legit, of course, but there are many, many more verses in the Bible about peace, seeking peace, working for peace.
Tom, you are reading an awful lot into a mugshot of what is likely a disturbed young man. His politics unclear at this point. There’s no indication that he was conspiring with anybody else. Nor have we heard of any BLM-related protesters attaching churches or vandalizing statues. There are no facts that support putting this on a larger context or blaming anyone besides Mr. Cantrell. There is no “they,” only him.
Yeah, sometimes boredom makes me express myself in a difficult way.
Like that time behind the football stadium.
Coach K,
When I saw the young man's face, he simply reminded me of what seems to be a common current among the disgruntled who are ravaging our cities--an irrepressible misery. Whether he is one of them or not, I have no idea.
I did not specifically mention BLM (I prefer not to even think about them) but if you think protesters are not vandalizing statues, tell that to Archbishop Cordileone in San Francisco or the priests and laity who have tried to protect statues in St. Louis, Ventura County Ca and elsewhere.
Anonymous,
You can call the differences in Christianity man made, and they might be, but many of them are diabolically inspired. Striving for peace is great, but keeping it is another story. Martin Luther divided Christianity and Europe. People there thought their faith was worth fighting for and I would never have told any of the Catholics fighting off a Protestant Prince out to conquer them that they should just "surrender" because "Jesus wants peace." False peace is no peace.
HEADLINE: Cardinal Tobin: A 'person in good conscience' could vote for Biden
Father, I realize you are the "king," "master of your domain," "fair or not fair," etc etc. etc.
However, I was still surprised you did not take note of this statement by the Cardinal of Newark, which supports analysis by several posters here.
I particularly like the statement that some pro-Trunp priests were adopting "political talking points" rather than accurately explaining church teaching.
https://www.ncronline.org/news/politics/cardinal-tobin-person-good-conscience-could-vote-biden
Cardinal Tobin: A 'person in good conscience' could vote for Biden
In response to a question echoing recent controversial statements by clergy and others as to whether Catholics can vote for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden in good conscience, Cardinal Joseph Tobin of Newark, New Jersey, indicated on Tuesday that he was personally more vexed by the prospect of voting for President Donald Trump.
"I think that a person in good conscience could vote for Mr. Biden," said Tobin. "I, frankly, in my own way of thinking have a more difficult time with the other option."
The New Jersey cardinal's remarks came during a Sept. 15 panel discussion co-sponsored by the Boston College's Boisi Center for Religion and American Public Life, Trinity College's Greenberg Center for the Study of Religion in Public Life and St. Anselm College's New Hampshire Institute of Politics on "The Church and Catholic Voters in the 2020 Election," moderated by Boisi Center director Fr. Mark Massa.
Tobin went on to call voting a "sacred act" and rejected the idea that Catholics must cast their votes based on a candidate's position on a single issue.
"I don't think that we can reduce [it], at least in the current panorama of issues, to how a candidate stands on a single issue," he said.
"No political party represents fully the Catholic tradition," said Tobin. "I think of the two options we have on the national scene of the two political parties, there's serious reason not to consider either party as being representative of the Catholic tradition."
(your blog does not allow me to send the entire story but you can find it at the link above).
"You can call the differences in Christianity man made, and they might be, but many of them are diabolically inspired."
Diabolically inspired? Where does thinking like this come from?
Romulus Augustus, Ruth Bader Ginsberg has passed. Now the real battle begins.
Tom & 6:05 pm — “Diabolically inspired” Religious differences is what gave Europe a thousand years of war. Catholics fighting off a Protestant prince, who’s aligned with the Lutheran king, who is fighting a war with the Catholic king, who’s in schism vs. the other Catholic king, who hates the English king, who’s persecuting the Huguenots, who’s protesting the Pope, who’s persecuting the Jews and so on and so on. For Pete’s sake, we finally got Northern Ireland sorted out in our lifetime, knock on wood. This is the main reason Europe is largely post-Christian nowadays.
“Diabolically inspired” also flies in the face of Catholic teaching, which holds that we should respect other faiths and live peacefully side by side. There’s a difference between “spiritual warfare” and actual God-inspired warfare.
Friends, this is all you need to know about Cardinal Tobin. I think it demonstrates why a good Catholic should not take election advice from him:
"On September 1, 2018, Cardinal Tobin told a journalist for the North Jersey Record that he didn’t investigate allegations against Theodore McCarrick because he didn’t think they were true. The journalist reported that “Tobin told me that soon after arriving in Newark, he heard ‘rumors’ about McCarrick’s beach house. But he never bothered to check them out. He says he thought the story was too ‘incredulous’ to believe.” (Catholic News Agency)"
Yep, he's the guy to listen to!
Coach K
If UNITY is so important to Christianity (and it is), then anything that would separate us IS diabolically inspired. The dissolution of Catholic monasteries caused rampant poverty in England, just so they could have religious "diversity". The hospital system created by Catholics, which did not charge for services, was eliminated in Lutheran countries when they were "reformed". Conversions were forced if your country lost the war. Would you call that divinely inspired? Would you call the loss of sacraments for millions of people and the loss of faith and the scandal of division divinely inspired?
God DOES have a permissive will, but that doesn't mean it's exactly what He wanted. Respecting other religions is one thing, but calling religious diversity God's will is pure nonsense--which is just one of many reasons pope Francis' Abu Dhabi sellout is such a shameful disgrace and embarrassment to anyone who understands the fundamentals of being a Catholic.
I would also add that Catholic teaching goes back a heck of a lot further than Vatican II's highly questionable Nostre Aetate, just one of many flawed documents from a compromised council whose true leaders operated in the shadows.
Real Catholic teaching does not contradict previous teachings.
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