Archbishop Paglia's comments came amid considerable debate in several Latin American countries over the prospect of legally protecting abortion.
ROME — The president of the Pontifical Academy for Life said Saturday that Catholic politicians should not promote legal protections of any kind for abortion, and called Catholics to promote the Gospel of Life.
“The Church is very clear in this regard. It is a response from the Catechism. It is a great mistake to promote legislation on abortion and euthanasia,” Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia said Aug. 29, during a meeting organized by CELAM, the Latin American organization of bishops.
The Archbishop offered a presentation on Pope St. John Paul II’s 1995 encyclical Evangelium vitae, or “The Gospel of Life.”
Catholic politicians “must stop promoting laws against the life” of the unborn, Archbishop Paglia said during his remarks. “There is no doubt about it.”
The Archbishop said that political leaders should try to improve “bad and sinful legislation” and added that “politicians, both Christians and other politicians, have to hear the validity of supporting and aiding the lives of all, and especially of the most fragile.”
Of that obligation, Archbishop Paglia, said, “there is no doubt.”
Asked about the possibility of censuring politicians who support abortion legislation, Archbishop Paglia said such figures “are certainly in error,” adding that while “we are interested in the condemnation of sin” the Church’s focus must be “salvation of the sinner.”
Read the rest there.
My previous post on presidential candiate and former Vice President Joe Biden seems to dovetail with what the Vatican and thus Pope Francis feel and believe as highlighted by the above article on what Archbishop Paglia teaches.
Thus, what is implied by the good Archbishop, is that the Catholic Joe Biden "must stop promoting laws against the life" of the unborn. And he and others must improve "bad and sinful legislation..."
There is not ambiguity or gray area in what the good Archbishop states.
Where there is a right to criticize him and the current Vatican is this:
Placing a censure against politicians, like Joe Biden, who flagrantly aid and assist in laws and behaviors that murder children. The least that should be done is that a clear policy be set that bishops must place a censure against public persons, i.e. Politicians, who first and foremost are Catholic, who flagrantly promote the slaughter, infanticide, genocide of babies who cannot in anyway defend themselves, speak for themselves or create a political movement of "All Babies' Lives Matter." Of course they do as well as Black Lives, because as the Church teaches, ALL LIVES MATTER!
Joe Biden needs to be censured and not allowed to receive Holy Communion until he repents. Why, for the sake of his soul and salvation and also for the live of All Babies Lives Matter!
Once he repents, and publicly so, welcome him back to the full communion of the Church.
“The Church is very clear in this regard. It is a response from the Catechism. It is a great mistake to promote legislation on abortion and euthanasia,” Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia said Aug. 29, during a meeting organized by CELAM, the Latin American organization of bishops.
The Archbishop offered a presentation on Pope St. John Paul II’s 1995 encyclical Evangelium vitae, or “The Gospel of Life.”
Catholic politicians “must stop promoting laws against the life” of the unborn, Archbishop Paglia said during his remarks. “There is no doubt about it.”
The Archbishop said that political leaders should try to improve “bad and sinful legislation” and added that “politicians, both Christians and other politicians, have to hear the validity of supporting and aiding the lives of all, and especially of the most fragile.”
Of that obligation, Archbishop Paglia, said, “there is no doubt.”
Asked about the possibility of censuring politicians who support abortion legislation, Archbishop Paglia said such figures “are certainly in error,” adding that while “we are interested in the condemnation of sin” the Church’s focus must be “salvation of the sinner.”
Read the rest there.
My previous post on presidential candiate and former Vice President Joe Biden seems to dovetail with what the Vatican and thus Pope Francis feel and believe as highlighted by the above article on what Archbishop Paglia teaches.
Thus, what is implied by the good Archbishop, is that the Catholic Joe Biden "must stop promoting laws against the life" of the unborn. And he and others must improve "bad and sinful legislation..."
There is not ambiguity or gray area in what the good Archbishop states.
Where there is a right to criticize him and the current Vatican is this:
Placing a censure against politicians, like Joe Biden, who flagrantly aid and assist in laws and behaviors that murder children. The least that should be done is that a clear policy be set that bishops must place a censure against public persons, i.e. Politicians, who first and foremost are Catholic, who flagrantly promote the slaughter, infanticide, genocide of babies who cannot in anyway defend themselves, speak for themselves or create a political movement of "All Babies' Lives Matter." Of course they do as well as Black Lives, because as the Church teaches, ALL LIVES MATTER!
Joe Biden needs to be censured and not allowed to receive Holy Communion until he repents. Why, for the sake of his soul and salvation and also for the live of All Babies Lives Matter!
Once he repents, and publicly so, welcome him back to the full communion of the Church.
17 comments:
No disrespect to Archbishop Paglia, but there was a time when just about any bishop in our good Church would have given him a stern fraternal correction for his misguided public comments.
Perhaps we should rename his organization the Pontifical Academy for the Preservation and Promotion of Liberal Public Policy?
When Gov Cuomo signed his grand abortion bill into law with great fanfare and press coverage we ( meaning most Catholics in the Diocese) SCREAMED and wrote letters to the Bishop demanding that he be denied Communion. And the response from Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio as well as Cardinal Dolan in the Archdiocese was basically the same.....it won't be effective. Then we got the same story about the "salvation of the sinner".
What a damn shame that our leaders cannot do the right thing.
I wish that we could build in the United States a political party whose platform featured Catholic-oriented planks.
The Democratic Party, as compared to the Republican Party, is superior in the overall promotion of Catholic Social Teaching.
Unfortunately, the Democratic Party is filled with massive corruption. The Democrats, who promote a great part of Catholic Social Teaching, promote also, in many ways, the Culture of Death.
The Republican Party is filled with corruption. The Republican Party, in many ways, promotes the Culture of Death.
In turn, to serve as our president, our two major political parties offer two candidates who, in far too many ways, promote the Culture of Death.
I believe that America can do better than that. We have to do better than that.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Mr Thomas:
What you say is true of the two US major parties, but there is actually an American "Third Party" that is even closer to Catholic social and moral teaching than these, the American Solidarity Party. It claims to be a party styled on the Christian Democrat parties of Europe. Of course, the US establishment and its media will never allow a third party in USA to flourish.
Father McDonald said..."Joe Biden needs to be censured and not allowed to receive Holy Communion until he repents. Why, for the sake of his soul and salvation and also for the live of All Babies Lives Matter! Once he repents, and publicly so, welcome him back to the full communion of the Church."
The shame with Joe Biden is that his support of abortion, as well as homosexual "marriage," mars the otherwise overall fine promotion of Catholic Social Teaching.
Compared certainly to President Trump, in one way after another, Joe Biden upholds the holy and wonderful nature of Catholic Social Teaching.
That, of course, isn't saying too much. After all, we are dealing with Donald Trump.
But then, as a Catholic, Joe Biden should conduct himself in line with Holy Mother Church's teachings.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
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MT @10:12,
Politics have always been filled with corruption. The real problem comes in when the Church cooperat s with the corruption and is no longer a predictable, solid voice of Truth.
One might argue that Biden also should repudiate support of same-sex marriage, but that could be irrelevant in the sense that those who support abortion also tend to support same-sex marriage. I don't know of any Catholics who publicly oppose the former and at the same time support the latter. Liberal on the first, then likely liberal on the second.
But politicians tend to reflect pretty well the views of their constituents, so maybe we need to look at another problem---the voters. Joe Biden has been pro-choice for decades, but he was elected (usually easily) to 7 terms in the US Senate, even winning re-election during the Reagan landslide of 1984. Is there any evidence that Biden was out of touch with his constituents on abortion? Teddy Kennedy was pro-choice for decades and elected easily in one of America's most heavily Catholic states, Massachusetts. Nancy Pelosi? Well, we know about her---elected from one of the most heavily Democratic areas on earth (80%+ Hillary). Any evidence she is out of touch with her constituents? My point is, unless the voters change their views (and they should), and put the heat on these politicians, you are going to get (unfortunately) pro-choice voting records like those. You know the old saying, the turtle did not get to the top of the fencepost by itself.
Any Catholic politician who advocates for things inimical to the Catholic Church and then claims to be a Catholic in good standing is the problem especially if they make this claim in order to garner Catholic votes.
In terms of the civil understand of marriage, I think that is a lost cause. We've had civil marriages of those not free to enter another marriage, but civil divorce reigns free. We have to live with that and make sure Catholics have a marriage that is canonically recognized.
There is a difference, though, in immoral sexual behavior that is purely heterosexual, i.e does not give into disordered desires, like sodomy and homosexual marriage where the sexual component is always disordered. Heterosexual sex and by this I mean vaginal intercourse with culmination within the vagina and not elsewhere, is not disordered according the Natural Law, but it certainly is immoral if it breaks the 6th commandment in any way as the CCC teaches.
The pro-life teachings of the Church with the protection of innocent unborn children as its foundation is where Catholic Church needs to be a bit more pro-active in not allowing them to receive Holy Communion when they attend Mass.
It is terrible that Joe Biden promotes abortion.
His promotion of homosexual "marriage," as well as his having sold out to the homosexual mafia, is also terrible.
He has sold out to multimillionaire Scott Gill. In Rolling Stone magazine, Scott Gill was labeled as “the nation’s most powerful force for LGBTQ rights."
In 2015 A.D., then-Vice President Joseph Biden visited Dallas, Texas, to speak at a Gill Foundation event. The Gill Foundation is a powerful pro-homosexual group who donates money to those who advance the cause of sodomy.
-- Joe Biden to Address Secretive Network of Gay Donors
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-04-06/joe-biden-to-address-secretive-network-of-gay-political-donors
-- Vice President Joe Biden Speaks at OutGiving 2015
"On Saturday, May 2, Vice President Joe Biden delivered remarks at the biennial OutGiving conference in Dallas. OutGiving brings together major donors and institutional funders – both LGBT and allies – in a private setting to connect, learn, and exchange ideas on ways to advance equality through strategic and intentional philanthropy."
What is OUTgiving? (By the way, the Gill Foundation emphasizes OUT...in OUTgiving.)
OUTgiving is "a network of LGBT and allied philanthropists and funders."
http://gillfoundation.org/it-takes-money/outgiving/
"OutGiving conferences are invitation-only, private events open to LGBT and allied donors and institutional funders whose annual philanthropy exceeds $25,000 and are interested in collaborating with like-minded funders to increase the effectiveness and impact of their giving in support of LGBT equality."
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Vice President Joe Biden's address to OUTgiving.
http://gillfoundation.org/press-release/vice-president-joe-biden-speaks-at-outgiving-2015/
"I came for a simple reason. I came to say thank you. And I really mean that. Not only for what you’ve done for the LGBT community, but for what you’ve done for every straight man and woman in America.
"You’ve freed decent, ordinary Americans, the vast majority of whom are not homophobic, the vast majority of whom are just unsure, ignorant, not knowing, not exposed."
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Sorry, that is multimillionaire Tim Gill, not Scott Gill.
Tim Gill, who influences politicians, and to whom to whom Joe Biden has sold out, has donated during past 20 or so years more than $422 million dollars — more than any other American — to advance America's homosexual mafia.
Who is Tim Gill?
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/meet-the-megadonor-behind-the-lgbtq-rights-movement-193996/
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Scott Miller is Tim Gill's "husband."
Scott Miller is a consultant to the 2020 Joe Biden Campaign for President.
Scott Miller said of his "husband":
“But — excuse the language — if you (expletive deleted) around with the LGBT community, you will face Tim Gill’s wrath.”
Source: https://www.5280.com/2019/12/who-is-tim-gill/
Mark Thomas,
You do understand that abortion and gay marriage are according to the Catholic Faith you claim to profess are intrinsic evils and part of the Democratic Party’s Platform (not part of the Republican Party’s platform), so you are supporting intrinsic evil. Have a nice day!
Mark Thomas,
You are enamoured with the Party of Intrinsic Evil, while claiming to be Catholic, so perhaps you should consider this from the National Catholic Register:
"A coalition of Black leaders is calling out Planned Parenthood for “targeting” Black communities for abortions while professing to support the Black Lives Matter movement.
In a letter to Planned Parenthood’s acting president Alexis McGill-Johnson on Tuesday, more than 100 Black elected officials, pastors, and attorneys demanded that she “confront the systemic racism of America’s abortion practices” and renounce the organization’s founder Margaret Sanger for racist writings.
“This effort demonstrates the outrage among the Black community that we have been strategically and consistently targeted by the abortion industry ever since the practice was legalized almost 50 years ago,” said Human Coalition Action executive director Rev. Dean Nelson, whose organization coordinated the letter.
The letter noted that 36% of abortions in the U.S. are performed on Black women, who represent only 13% of the country’s female population.
“Black women are five times more likely to have an abortion than white women to receive an abortion,” the letter stated. “In some cities, like New York, more Black children are aborted every year than are born alive.”
“This is no accident,” the letter stated, noting that “79 percent of Planned Parenthood’s surgical abortion facilities are located in or near communities of color.”
Maybe you should ask Fake Catholic Joe Biden what he thinks about this! Have a nice day!
Sorry I commented...should have known better. Church and politics...
Anon 11:44
Victor said... "Mr Thomas: What you say is true of the two US major parties, but there is actually an American "Third Party" that is even closer to Catholic social and moral teaching than these, the American Solidarity Party. It claims to be a party styled on the Christian Democrat parties of Europe. Of course, the US establishment and its media will never allow a third party in USA to flourish."
Victor, thank you for the information about American Solidarity Party. I have just read a bit about them...so far, so good.
They are true right-to-life, from birth to natural death.
They don't support abortion, as do President Trump and Joe Biden.
I like the support that the American Solidarity Party gives to labor unions.
The American Solidarity Party's promotion of environmental stewardship is on par with the
"green" teachings of holy Popes Francis, Benedict XVI, Saint John Paul II, ETC.
Victor, thank you again for the information about the American Solidarity Party.
So far, so good.
Mark Thomas,
You must respond to what these Black Leaders said about abortion. After all, it may be considered "racist" if you don't. And it it YOUR Party that views abortion as one of its secular sacraments.
Mark Thomas,
Be not afraid - we are awaiting your words of wisdom on this topic
Mark Thomas,
Come out, come out wherever you are!
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