But read Fr. Dwight Cardinal Longenecker suggestions for including sinners in the Church. Common senses, no?
Cardinal Marx: The Individual Blessing of Homosexual Couples May Be Discussed
MAYBE CARDINAL MARX WAS NOT AS EQUIVOCAL ABOUT BLESSING THE MORTAL SIN OF ACTIVE SODOMY AS WAS FIRST REPORTED, BUT.........
Cardinals Marx and Parolin and the Gay Marriage Scandal
News broke over the weekend that German Cardinal Marx had opened the door to Catholic blessings of same sex unions.
It was reported here by the Catholic News Agency, and was picked up by CRUX and other news outlets. The news spread pretty quickly and I commented on it on Saturday.
However, as usual, such stories have another side to them and I was alerted by a reader in England that he listened to the interview with Cardinal Marx, and being a German speaker, he contested the veracity of the report in Catholic News Agency. Another German speaker confirmed his opinion.
The quote in question is this:
The specific liturgical form that blessings – or other forms of “encouragement” – should take is a quite different question, the Munich archbishop continued, and one that requires further careful consideration.Asked whether he really was saying that he “could imagine a way to bless homosexual couples in the Catholic Church,” Marx answered, “yes” – adding however, that there could be “no general solutions.”“It’s about pastoral care for individual cases, and that applies in other areas as well, which we can not regulate, where we have no sets of rules.”The decision should be made by “the pastor on the ground, and the individual under pastoral care” said Marx, reiterating that, in his view, “there are things that can not be regulated.”
That certainly sounds like the Cardinal is saying “Yes” to the blessing of same sex unions, but the German speakers said reading his “Yes” as a clear affirmation is to misunderstand the German language where “Jah” is often used not simply as an affirmation, but merely as an interjection to move the conversation on the way, in the midst of a conversation we might say, “Yeah, but…”
So what conclusions do we draw from this?
My first question is why a Cardinal of the Catholic Church finds it so difficult to state clearly and compassionately the teaching of the Catholic faith? He says “there are no general solutions”. But there are. Sexual activity is only licit between one man and one woman who are validly married. That is a general solution.
Surely when asked if gay people can have their unions blessed by a priest the answer is, “This is impossible because a priest cannot bless what God does not bless. This would be a lie. However, a person who experiences same sex attraction is not rejected by the church. We welcome all with love and acceptance and invite all to follow Jesus Christ the world’s Redeemer in the narrow way that leads to life–the way of self discipline, chastity, faith and service.”
Jesus said, “Let your Yes be Yes and your No be No.”
Cardinal Marx and other progressives say, “Well, yeah. Maybe but not quite, but perhaps, and it could be under certain circumstances that we may be able to allow this which is not allowed but that does not mean we are changing our teaching but maybe we are in a sense it could be that on the other hand…”
This problem stems from the larger issue in the Catholic Church today which can be called “Parolin’s Paradigm”. The Cardinal Secretary of state calls for a “new paradigm” in the church which demands that we pay more attention to the individual circumstances of a pastoral situation than to the timeless, objective principles of morality–principles revealed by God in Sacred Scripture and by the Lord Jesus himself. Parolin is correct that this “new paradigm” originated in the Pope’s apostolic exhortation Amoris Letitia.
Edward Pentin reports here on how this “new paradigm” is used to push a change in interpretation on . the church’s teaching on artificial contraception.
In a book published last year entitled Amoris Laetitia: A Turning Point for Moral Theology, edited by Stephan Goertz and Caroline Witting, it is argued that Amoris Laetitia represents a paradigm shift for all moral theology and especially in interpreting Blessed Paul VI’s encyclical Humanae Vitae.The foreword to the Italian edition was written by the president of the John Paul II Pontifical Theological Institute for Marriage and Family Sciences, Msgr. Pierangelo Sequeri, who is also on the board of governors of the Pontifical Academy for Life.Proponents of such a change refer to Amoris Laetitia‘s stress on the objective relevance of extenuating circumstances, the subjective conscience and discernment to allow some divorced and civilly remarried Catholics to receive Holy Communion and apply it to allowing use of artificial contraception in some cases.At a talk last month at the Pontifical Gregorian University, moral theologian Father Maurizio Chiodi, who presented the Goertz and Witting book at the university, similarly suggested that Amoris Laetitia opened the way for a new interpretation of Humanae Vitae to allow artificial contraception, saying some circumstances “require” it. Father Chiodi is also a new member of the Pontifical Academy for Life.
Why is this important? Now we’re getting down to the meat and potatoes.
This is important, not simply for the effect it has on questions of divorce and re-marriage or the acceptance of homosexual people or artificial contraception.
Beneath Cardinal Marx’s wishy washy words is Cardinal Parolin’s “new paradigm” and although he calls it a “new paradigm” there’s really nothing new about it. It is situational ethics, and that’s been around for a long, long time.
In fact, it is as old as the Garden of Eden.
What was the conversation in the Garden of Eden? God gave a clear and unambiguous command, “You shall not eat of the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil or you shall surely die.”
The Father of Lies came along and engaged Adam and Eve in dialogue. He undermined God’s command with relativism and said first of all, “You shall not surely die!” No doubt he added soothing words like, “God is merciful. You know how he loves you! Do you really think he would kill you?”
Then he saw the good that would come from disobedience: “You will have the same knowledge that God has and this will make you happy!” No doubt part of the conversation was, “This talk of dying from eating the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. This is a metaphorical, poetic way of speaking and it is beautiful, but he did not mean that you would literally die!”
This is always what happens when the clear commandments of God are set aside in favor of the individual situation. The result is disobedience disguised as freedom.
In my first posting on Cardinal Marx I joked that he had joined the Anglican Church. In fact, hist relativism is exactly like the double speak which one constantly heard in the Anglican Church, and it is a sure sign that the old deceiver is at work. He likes nothing better than wishy washy gobbledegook language.
At the end of the day we can ask, “Does Cardinal Marx approve of the blessing of same sex unions or not?” The problem is not only that the question has come up at all, but that the Cardinal has allowed ambiguity to take the place of a clear teaching, and this ambiguity is not a mistake, nor is it simply the verbal bumblings of an incompetent communicator.
It is the new paradigm.
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I am deeply saddened by the direction our church leaders are taking. I pray this will boomerang!! These tired old men will do us well to pass along into eternity!
"It is the new paradigm."
Or the ancient voice of the snake in the garden.
A good article by Fr. Longenecker. Though perhaps it's a little overboard to suggest a cardinalate for simply stating unambiguously what faithful Catholics have believed for time immemorial. Any priest should be able to do so.
Though on the principle that "the crud floats to the top", this might be too much to expect of bishops, still moreso of cardinals. I recall the answer of a wise priest with much experience in Rome, when asked how many cardinals are seriously believing Christians. "Maybe 40% of them."
I doubt Santita wants Faithful Catholics as cardinals.
Well how about something from the old paradigm? The Kennedy (forget his first name) who gave a Democratic response to Trump's State of the Union last Tuesday is the head of some Transgender Equality Congress---yes, a chip off the old block, from the not so Catholic Kennedy dynasty!
If Amoris Letitia opens the door to anything contrary to revealed law then it is complete bunk and undeserving of further consideration. It is absurd that we are trying to redeem this work when all we need to do is toss it out and let the authors try again. Please note that the single footnote has been revealed not as an isolated misstep or error but as the logical conclusion and an integral part of the entire work. We are being led, erroneously, to conclude that sex is Love and therefore all associated forms of affection are legitimate expressions of Love. Rather than waste time exploring the almost inumerable ways this is wrong we should acknowledge, with horror, that we are willfully perverting the words of Saints and even Our Lord Jesus Christ to justify sodomy. By comparison, sins of the flesh, including sodomy, pale to nothing compared to the presumption and blasphemy of this willful twisting of words. We are attempting to beat God at His own game and have Him worship us and our cleverness. “Get thee behind me,” is sure to follow.
Bee here:
How clever to think one can circumvent Divine Law under the guise of being “pastoral.” If (some) Popes, cardinals, bishops and priests have convinced themselves that the problems created in men’s lives by the Gospel can be resolved by way of “pastoral” practices that are nothing more than negations of the demands of Divine Law, they are truly foolish and even dangerous men; wolves in sheep’s clothing.
I suggest they try St. Peter’s “pastoral” approach:
“Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. This man was HANDED OVER TO YOU by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge; AND YOU, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross. But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him…..God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear [the Holy Spirit at Pentecost].
“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.”
When the people heard this, THEY WERE CUT TO THE HEART and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.
With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.” Acts 1: 22-41
I don’t see St. Peter making converts or ministering to people by negating God’s law. Yet we have this very thing being suggested by (some) leaders in our Church today. I suggest people be warned to run away from them as fast as they can. Better to be without any pastor than to listen to one who leads you into hell.
God bless.
Bee
This is how low the Catholic Church and the Papacy of sunk under Francis:
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/02/06/vatican-bishop-know-whos-really-acing-catholic-social-justice-days/
Kavanaugh probably loves this bishop!
Not a dime to Peter's Pence while Francis is on the throne
Regarding that fine Kennedy family tradition in the area of following standards of Catholic morality!
Recently read a book which described how JFK and his brothers followed their dad Joe's example.
JFK turned the White House into a brothel.
JFK's many affairs and mistresses included an East German intelligence operative, a woman also the girlfriend of a Chicago mob boss and the 18 year old daughter of one of his closest political advisers.
If any followers of this blog would like an enlightening change of pace they could google PinkNews UK.
To read of the Catholic Democrat, 37 years old, congressman, Joe Kennedy.
And his important job as Chair of the Congressional Transgender Equality Task Force.
And his invitation of a trans woman to the state of the Union address, a trans woman who served as staff sgt as a man in the US army for 19 years.
Again for a change of pace one can read such articles as:
10 Hollywood stars you did not know had a LGBTI sibling!
An Irish Catholic priest based in London, and working as a psychotherapist, has recently married his long term male partner.
Or of the US priest who gave up priestly duties to work as a PA for an English pop singing idol and has now become his long term partner.
Archbishop Chaput calls this apostate out
Of sin it can be said there exists two principal aspects. One is in the subjective nature, in which is manifested to a lesser or greater degree the personal culpability of the sinner.
The other is in the objective nature which is manifested in the act itself and its effect, whether interior to the sinner,or outwardly to the observer. In the one the sinner does damage to his spiritual condition by offending God; in the other, the act in and of itself goes against what God desires and requires us to do, and so is an offense against His Divine Holiness and Goodness. Though the first aspect of sin may be diminished or even absent, the other is always present.
God did not set up His Holy laws just a as a way for us to demonstrate our allegiance to Him,though our obedience to Him gives evidence of that.
Rather,it is that these laws flow from His very Holy and Divine nature which we, with the help of His grace, will recognize and so be impelled to give Him honor and not offense.
The German faithful deserve better than Cardinal Marx who I suspect is a spiritual soulmate of Karl Marx rather than Thomas a Kempis. If Santita had any intellectual and spiritual integrity he would remove Cardinal Marx and send him to a monastery to reflect
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