Personally, I am uncomfortable with a papal magisterium by interview and off-the-cuff remarks. However, Pope Leo, while making some missteps in these settings, overall is clear and fair in His Holiness’ remarks.
These remarks on American deportations and the manner in which it is being done and on target:
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Perhaps we need a Vatican III (I shudder at the thought) to clarify what constitutes the magisterium, but there's an argument to be made that off-the-cuff pressers are not part of it.
Nick
Of course they aren’t and have no authority. But so many think these off-the-cuff remarks of any pope more authority than they have. In reality it is a papal opinion.
K will be devastated by what Pope Leo has to say about open borders!
"No one has said that the United States should have open borders. I think every country has a right to determine who and how and when people enter.”
Maybe he read my comment about flying 100,000 illegal aliens to the Vatican!
K can't handle the truth and will NEVER respond to this:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/11/breaking-democrat-congresswoman-sheila-cherfilus-mccormick-indicted-stealing/
Our Sunday Visitor ran this encouraging story on a change in policy regarding the TLM under Pioe Leo:
https://www.osvnews.com/latin-mass-supporters-welcome-signs-of-policy-change/
This will set K’s hair on fire!
https://x.com/rightanglenews/status/1991213495732330738?s=42
Humanely and with dignity, deport them if they came here illegally and encourage them to self-deport with our assistance. That's it Holy Father!
In regard to certain answers that Pope Leo XIV has provided the past weeks to journalists: His Holiness has offered more than his opinions.
Example:
In regard to abortion, as well as immigration, His Holiness has reiterated Church teaching.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
MT Suit, where is the slobbering language over Pope Leo that you employed when Francis was pope? No holy, holies, an oracle of God, etc
https://www.ncregister.com/blog/this-papal-interview-changes-everything
-- This Papal Interview Changes Everything
Pat Archbold, December 15, 2014. National Catholic Register
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"When it comes to Papal interviews, for the past 16 months, I have mostly adopted a hands off approach.
"There are many reasons for this, but the most recent Papal interview has me reassessing my reasons.
"However, the primary reason I decided to adopt a hands off approach about the Pope's common way of teaching through informal media interviews, published conversations, and daily homilies is that some people convinced me that such statements did not constitute his personal magisterium.
"They reminded me...that he does not intend for these things to be regarded as his personal magisterium..."
"In the past, they told me, Popes made all kinds of non-magisterial informal communications..."
"So it is that I took great note of some comments by the Pope in his latest interview with La Nacion.
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Pope Francis: "...I'm permanently making statements, giving homilies; that's teaching."
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"This interview makes clear that Pope Francis does intend that his statements and homilies are to be considered part of his personal magisterium."
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Maybe I'll beat Fr. AJM to the punch: poor MT, forgetting that Leo is now pope!
Nick
Maybe there should be a gentleman's agreement to limit ourselves to one link commented per post?
Nick
I have not found that Pope Leo XIV has engaged in missteps via his interactions with journalists.
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In line with Pope Francis (requiescat in pace), as well as additional predecessors, Pope Leo XIV has disseminated Church teachings via journalists.
To a greater degree than his immediate predecessors, Pope Francis utilized journalists, as well as social media, to broadcast Church teaching throughout the world.
In that regard, Pope Leo XIV's actions have indicated that he will match, if not surpass, Pope Francis. I am thankful for that.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
TJM and Tom Makin:
You seem to be listening very selectively and hearing only what you want to hear.
Pope Leo also said in these remarks: “I think that the Bishops have been very clear in what they said, and I would just invite all people in the United States to listen,”
So, again, this is what the Bishops said in their recent Special Message:
https://www.usccb.org/news/2025/us-bishops-issue-special-message-immigration-plenary-assembly-baltimore
“We recognize that nations have a responsibility to regulate their borders and establish a just and orderly immigration system for the sake of the common good. Without such processes, immigrants face the risk of trafficking and other forms of exploitation. Safe and legal pathways serve as an antidote to such risks. . . . We oppose the indiscriminate mass deportation of people. We pray for an end to dehumanizing rhetoric and violence, whether directed at immigrants or at law enforcement.”
Mark J.
You just had to provoke another ooze of the nausea-inducing rhetorical cornsyrup machine.
Nick
“The most recent pope was the best ever, but the current one is the bestest and the next one will be even bestestest!”
This is your brain on Whiggish islamopapism, kids.
Nick
Mark J,
The operative point is the Pope said a nation is free to decide who comes in and the Vatican just increased its own penalties for violating its immigration rules. This is a prudential matter and better left to the laity than clueless clerics divorced from reality.
How are things working out in England? Before you know it English Courts will excuse Muslims tossing gays off of buildings as an accommodation to Sharia “Law.”
You totally disregard the cost and burdens illegal aliens place on communities. Of course our propagandist press doesn’t want to touch that story.
I still don’t understand why you hide in Southern States when you could be living in illegal alien paradises like NYC, Chicago, and LA. Stand up for your principles by moving to one of those places.
TJM:
There are several operative points. You zero in on only one of them. One can only be astounded at your inability to read things in context, by which I mean other parts of the text. This is lawyering 101. You do claim to be a lawyer, no?
Please don’t distract! This isn’t England, It is the United States and the immigration issues are quite different.
I do not disregard those matters. I merely am guided by the Magisterium—our Pope and our Bishops. Take it up with them, not with me. I am not a cafeteria Catholic. Are you? I suspect that you must be. When what they say doesn’t line up with MAGA policies, they are just “clueless clerics divorced from reality.” Now, if you want and if you are capable, we can certainly have a conversation about “reality” and different orders of reality. For example, the Real Presence” is a different, higher order of reality from the bread and the wine—it is a sacred order of reality. But the sacred order of reality extends far beyond that, indeed it encompasses the entire universe. And each person belongs to this higher, sacred order of reality as well as to the mundane, material order we perceive with our five senses.
If you still don’t understand my reasons for moving, that is on you. I have twice explained these reasons very clearly. Of course, I don’t, for one second, believe that you don’t understand. You are just being your characteristic obnoxious self, just like the Great Leader you worship. Perhaps in your next post you will call me piggy or a traitor or whatever bon mot du jour is in vogue in the MAGA movement at the time.
Mark J.
TJM:
Further to my previous comment replying to you, Pope Leo begins his remarks in the posted video clip by saying “Well, I’ve made some statements about that already.” These statements are also part of the context. Here, for example, is a Southern Orders post from November 5 with a video with some of those statements. Perhaps you missed it because you did not comment on that thread:
https://southernorderspage.blogspot.com/2025/11/preaching-gospel-from-castel-gondolfo.html
I suggest that you review it now.
As for being true to my principles, I was very active in 2017 when Trump and Miller tried to dismantle the DACA program, organizing or co-organizing several events in Georgia at my law school, university, and in the community and collaborating with other like-minded advocates who were appalled at the injustice of what was being done. Just last year I arranged to bring in the then immediate past president of the American Bar Association, Mary Smith, as the keynote speaker at the law review symposium on professional identity that I co-organized. As you might know, Mary Smith set up the bipartisan ABA Task Force for American Democracy:
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/aba-task-force-recommends-lawyers-take-oath-protect-democracy-rule-law-2025-09-10/
Right now, I am unable to do much due to the complexities of the move but intend to become active and involved again when settled. In the meantime, I applaud and support the work of the nonpartisan lawyers’ groups Lawyers Defending American Democracy and the Society for the Rule of Law. I have made my position and principles very clear in my actions and in my book Professions and Politics in Crisis (2021):
https://cap-press.com/books/isbn/9781531021979/Professions-and-Politics-in-Crisis
What have YOU done to defend our constitutional order, the rule of law, and the independence of the judiciary in the face of authoritarian attacks?
Regarding DACA, it seems that Trump is reneging on his campaign promise to do something for the DACA recipients and that he (and his minions like Miller) have resumed their evil and unjust attacks on them instead:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/death-thousand-paper-cuts-trumps-130221024.html
Mark J.
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