ln praise of each other?
uhhh... they're both the same.
Glad to see the communist, masonic, pentagram star gone!
I didn't notice the star difference but there is also another difference too, look more closely Geoff!
Yes, the nard for Joseph looks less like a bunch of grapes.
According to this morning's VIS, there are three differences. The motto looks much better on the scroll. That's a big improvement.The third change is to the flower apparently. I can't see that one very well.
the motto on the scroll is what hit my eye first!
Vox - There are FIFTY "communist, masonic, pentagram" stars on our American flag. Such a worry.....
Anonymous, the US Constitution is a Masonic construct, you have Masonic symbolism on your currency, and the official status of God is 18th century deist. The British Constitution does assume a Christian God but it is based on a protestant Anglicanism which is now a relativist soup. The old Catholic countries of Europe are now thoroughly secularized.Benedict put the pallium on his coat of arms; this seems to be omitted. Francis did not wear the pallium yesterday evening. At the moment the signs of continuity are the pallium with its red crosses (a Benedict innovation) and the use of the same papal staff used by Benedict in the second half of his pontificate. We shall see how long they survive.
No kidding Anon, the US is a Masonic nation. That's why I would never put my country before my Faith, unless my country happened to be a catholic nation (at last count I think Malta is the only one left, for the record).
And what's more, symbols mean A LOT in Catholicism....and Catholic stars are 8 pointed for their symbolism. But that's just more of that kooky traditional crap like rubrics, and canon law, and regalia.
Bring back the Papal Tiara! Even Benedict should have retained it.
John Nolan - What parts or parts of the Constitution of the United States are "Masonic" in construct?Templar - I would suspect that The Vatican, an independent nation as you know, would also be counted as a Catholic nation.
The eight-point star as a symbol marks early human understanding of the intellegent order that underlies our universe. Today, it carries religous and mystical associations. Known as the khatam in Islamic cultures, it and its variants are found at the center of stunning zillij masterpieces throughout Morocco. Amidst the color and compostion, the khatam stands as a symbol of early astronomy, interconnectedness, and faith in the ultimate harmony of Creation. In this way, the khatam represents the highest virtues in Moroccan culture: learning, community, faith, and love of beauty.
What if we don't give a damn about Moroccan culture?
Much better rendition, although the artistry is still extremely slobbish.PS: in the new rendition, they've got the mitre's background done in Or instead of white... Odd.
Anon, the American Constitution is a product of the Enlightenment, and most of the Founding Fathers were Freemasons and Deists. The apogee of this was the French Revolutionary cult of the Supreme Being, with Maximilien Robespierre as its high priest.
John Nolan - I am aware the the Enlightenment and the Masonic Founding Fathers. But is there something peculiarly "Masonic" in the US Constitution that you find objectionable?
"Liberte',Egalite",Fraternite.""Then walk we forth,even to the market place, And waving our red weapons o'er our heads,Let's all cry 'Peace, freedom, and liberty!" Brutus
Take Me Out To the Courtyard (to the tune of 'Take Me Out To the Ballgame')Take me out to the courtyardTake me out where its loud,We'll have the best revolution yetWe'll kill the King and Marie Antoinette!Oh, take me out to the courtyardTake me out with the crowd,For its Off! Off! Off with their heads,In the old courtyard!
Missing the Tiara.
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