I copy this from Rorate Caeli:
An Interview with Professor Mario Palmaro
The Message to Traditionalists:
“Spread the Faith in the World”
THE LOST OPPORTUNITY OF THE “LEFEBVRIANS”
Professsor Palmaro, you (and the
ecclesial world you in some way interpret) rightly supported Pope
Benedict’s attempt to bring into [full] communion the “schismatic”
Lefebvrian movement. But in July 2012 when their General Chapter refused
the invitation from the Holy See, what was your view on the matter?
What do you think now of that attitude?
Even though I have never been part of the
Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius (FSSPX) founded by Monsignor Marcel
Lefebvre, I had the fortune of getting to know them firsthand a few
years ago. Together with the journalist Alessandro Gnocchi, we decided
to go and see this world with our own eyes, and to describe it in two
books and some articles. I must say that many prejudices that I had
held turned out to be unfounded; I met very good priests, nuns and
brothers dedicated to a serious experience of Catholic life, graced with
openness and cordiality. I was struck very favorably by the figure of
Bishop Bernard Fellay, the Bishop who leads the FSSPX - a good man of
great faith. We discovered a world of lay faithful and priests who pray
every day for the Pope, even if they have placed themselves in a
definitive position of being critical especially with regard to the
liturgy, religious liberty and ecumenism. We saw many young people, many
religious vocations, many “normal” Catholic families who frequent the
Fraternity. Priests in their cassocks, while walking the streets of
Paris or Rome, were stopped by people asking them for comfort and hope.
We are well-acquainted with the
polymorphism of the contemporary Church in the world, which is to say
that nowadays calling yourself Catholic is not the same as following the
same doctrine; heterodoxy is greatly diffused and there are nuns,
priests and theologians who openly contest or deny portions of Catholic
doctrine. For this reason, we asked ourselves: how is it possible that
there is room for everyone in the Church except these brothers and
sisters who are Catholic in every way and are absolutely faithful to 20
of all the 21 councils which have taken place in the course of
Catholic history?
While we were writing the first book, news
arrived about the revocation of the excommunications through Pope
Benedict XVI’s historical decision. What remained at that point was the
canonical regularization of the Fraternity. Pope Benedict held this
reconciliation dearly and it has yet to be concretized. I maintain that
Benedict’s pontificate was a historical opportunity for full
reconciliation, and it was a real shame to let this train pass. I have
always sustained that the FSSPX must do all that is possible for their
canonical regularization, but I would add that Rome has to offer
Monsignor Fellay and his faithful the guarantee of respect and freedom,
above all in the celebration of the Vetus Ordo and in the doctrine that
is normally taught within the Fraternity’s seminaries, the perennial
one.
DEFENSIVE AGGRESSIVENESS
The full support towards Pope Benedict
XVI does not seem to be carried out now with Pope Francis. Are popes
accepted or are they “chosen”? What does the papacy represent today?
The fact that a pope is “liked” by people
is completely irrelevant to the two-thousand-year logic of the Church:
the pope is the Vicar of Christ on earth and he has to please Our Lord.
This means that the exercise of his power is not absolute, but is
subordinate to the teaching of Christ, which is found in the Catholic
Church, in Her Tradition and fostered by the life of Grace through the
Sacraments.
Now, this means that the pope himself can
be judged and criticized by the [ordinary] Catholic, on the condition
that this happens in the perspective of love for the truth, and that as a
criteria of reference, Tradition and the Magisterium are used. A pope
contradicting a predecessor in matters of faith and morals has to,
without question, be criticized.
We must distrust both the worldly logic
where the pope is judged by democratic criteria which satisfies the
majority, and the temptation to “papolatry” according to which “the pope
is always right.” Furthermore, for decades now we have become used to
criticizing many popes from the past in a destructive manner, exhibiting
scarce historiographic seriousness; well then, we don’t see why
reigning popes or the most recent ones are spared in any way from any
type of criticism. If Boniface VII or Pius V are judged why not also
judge Paul VI or Francis?
AGAINST MODERNISM
In the world of the sites (internet)
and magazines on Tradition, of late, a frequent display of strong
aggressiveness has been noted. Is it true? What are the causes? What do
you think of this?
The behavior-problems in some
tradition-associated people or entities is serious and cannot be denied.
A truth presented or proposed without charity is a truth betrayed.
Christ is our way, truth and life and therefore we must always take our
example from Him, Who was always steadfast in the truth and invincible
in charity. I believe the world of Tradition is sometimes sharp and
polemical for three reasons: the first, is a certain syndrome of
isolation, which renders [them] suspicious and vindictive, and manifests
itself through personality problems; the second, is the genuine
scandal that certain directions in contemporary Catholicism stir up in
those who know the doctrinal teaching of the popes and the Church prior
to Vatican II; the third, for the lack of charity that official
Catholicism has shown to these brothers, who are apostrophized with
contempt as “traditionalists” or “Lefebvrians” forgetting that, anyway
they are nearer the Church than the members of any other Christian
confession ever could be or even any other religion. The official
Catholic press does not even dedicate a line to this reality – which
includes hundreds of priests and seminarians – and yet they might offer
pages to thinkers that have nothing even vaguely Catholic about them.
Commenting on the Vatican instruction
with regard to the Franciscans of the Immaculate, you invoked
conscientious objection for the religious as to the liturgical
indications. In what way [then] must the religious obey their spiritual
family? How do you place conscientious objection in the tradition of
the Syllabus?
The issue of the Franciscans of the
Immaculate, is in my view very sad. It concerns provisions made by an
external commissioner and decided upon by Rome in unusual haste and
with equally unexplainable severity. Since I know this religious family
very well, I find this decision to be completely unjustifiable and [so]
along with other three scholars I presented a sort of appeal to the
Vatican.
In synthesis, I remind you, that the
provisions “remove” the founder, and forbid the celebration of the Old
Rite to all of the priests in the Congregation, [this] in manifest
contradiction to what was established by Benedict XVI in his Motu
Proprio, Summorum Pontificum. You are right: the resistance to an order
from legitimate authority always poses problems for the Christian, even
more so if he is a member of a religious family. Nonetheless, in this
case there are some aspects clearly unacceptable, and I maintain that
the priests of the Franciscans of the Immaculate should continue to
celebrate the Mass in the Extraordinary Form of the Vetus Ordo, securing
that bi-ritualism which I know was the normal practice for the Friars.
I would add, in a Church shaken by thousands of problems and rebellions
where glorious congregations are dying out for lack of vocations, it is
not good to see the Franciscans of the Immaculate being hit like this
as they instead, have abundant vocations all over the world.
In your opinion, what are the most
evident limits of the “conciliar” (or “liberal” if you wish) Catholic
sensibility? What are its most obvious weaknesses?
In my view, the fundamental problem is its
relationship with the world, marked by an attitude of subjection and
dependency, almost as if the Church must adapt Herself to the whims of
men, when instead we know that it is man who needs to adapt to the will
of Christ, the King of history and the universe. When Pius X harshly
attacked Modernism, he wanted to ward off this mortal temptation to
Catholicism: the changing of doctrine to go along with the spirit of the
world. Given that humanity has been prey to the process of dissolution
which began with the French Revolution (followed by modernity and
post-modernity) the Church is more than ever called to resist that
spirit of the world. Many choices made by the Church in the last 50
years are instead the symptom of giving in [to it]: the liturgical
reform, which constructed a Mass for contemporary sensibilities by
destroying a Rite in force for centuries, orienting everything towards
the word, the assembly, participation, [while] mortifying the centrality
of the Sacrifice; the insistence on the universal priesthood, which has
devalued the ministerial priesthood, disheartening generations of
priests and bringing on an unprecedented crisis in vocations; “sacred”
architecture which built anti-liturgical monsters; the de facto
abolition of the Four Last Things, when the theme of the salvation of
souls (and the risk of eternal damnation) is the only supernatural
subject matter which differentiates the Church from a philanthropic
agency; and so forth.
BECOMING SAINTS
Believers are united on the essential
and are divided on controversial issues. Everyone, however, is called to
respect and accompany those who are burdened by suffering and the
fatigues of life. How does one’s spiritual sensibilities change when
suffering passes through the days with violence, as is happening to you?
The first thing that shakes you up about
sickness is that it hits us without any warning and at a time we do not
decide. We are at the mercy of events, and we can do nothing but
accept them. Grave illness obliges one to become aware that we are
truly mortal; even if death is the most certain thing in the world,
modern man tends to live as if he should never die.
In sickness you understand for the first
time that life on earth is but a breath, you recognize with bitterness
that you have not made it that masterpiece of holiness God had wanted.
You experience a profound nostalgia for the good that you could have
done and for the bad that you could have avoided. You look at the
Crucifix and you understand that this is the heart of the Faith; without
sacrifice Catholicism wouldn’t exist. Then you thank God for having
made you a Catholic, a “little ” Catholic, a sinner, but who has an
attentive Mother in the Church. So, grave sickness is a time of grace,
but often the vices and miseries that have accompanied us in life
remain, or even increase [during it]. It is as if the agony has already
begun, and there is a battle going on for the destiny of my soul,
because nobody can be sure of their own salvation.
On the other hand, this sickness has
allowed me to discover a remarkable amount of people who love and pray
for me; families who recite the rosary in the evening with their
children for my recovery. I have no words to describe the beauty of
this experience which is an anticipation of the love of God and eternity
itself. The greatest suffering I experience is the idea of having to
leave this world which I am so fond of and is so beautiful even if also
so tragic; of having to leave many friends and relatives; but most of
all, of having to leave my wife and children who are still at a tender
age.
Sometimes I imagine my home, my empty
study, and the life that will continue there even if I am no longer
present. It is a scene that hurts, but it is extremely realistic: it
makes me realize what a useless servant I have been, and that all the
books I have written, the conferences and articles, are nothing but
straw. But my hope is in the mercy of the Lord, and in the fact that
others will pick up part of my aspirations and battles and will continue
on in “the ancient duel”.
[Source: Settimana (Ed. Dehoniane), October 27, 2013, issue n. 38/2013, p. 12-13. Translation: Contributor Francesca Romana.]
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