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Thursday, July 3, 2025

WILL MANIPULATING OR PRESSURING POPE LEO XIV ABOUT CANCELING TRADITIONIS CUSTODES BACKFIRE? MAYBE, BUT I DON’T THINK POPE LEO BASES HIS DECISIONS ON FEELINGS, ANGER OR GETTING EVEN




I am somewhat concerned that if Pope Leo XIV feels pressured or manipulated into reversing Traditionis Custodes or even modifying it to allow a more of what Pope Benedict envisioned for the TLM rather than the stonewall that Pope Francis created, it may delay Pope Leo from making a decision more quickly. 

First, we must acknowledge that Pope Benedict XVI had every right to publish Summorum Pontificum.

Second, Pope Francis had every right to abolish Pope Benedict’s Summorum Pontificum and just because His Holiness wanted to do so because he didn’t like the pre-Vatican II Mass or those who wanted it, thinking both are crazy.

It is clear that Pope Benedict had cogent theological and historical reason for issuing Summorum Pontificum. He wanted a theology of renewal in continuity. Summorum Pontificum wasn’t based upon anger or marginalizing those who prefer the Modern Mass. He certainly didn’t want those who desire the TLM to be marginalized in Dioceses or parishes.

Pope Leo, from what I can tell, is sober in his theology and respectful of what preceded the Second Vatican Council and what has transpired in the some 60 years since then.

God willing, Pope Leo will issue his own Motu Proprio or Apostolic Letter that will acknowledge the best of SP and TC and not marginalize Catholics who prefer one or the other usages of the Roman or Latin Rite.

Let us pray for Pope Leo that he will be fair and balanced not only to four previous popes but current day clergy and laity who want both forms of the Mass to exist without prejudice.

Felix Neumann writes this which I think is cogent:

Today it is clear: Traditionis custodes has failed, and not the pastorally clever solution of Summorum Pontificum - and in view of the feedback from back then, this could have been known beforehand. Fear of liturgical variants is unfounded. What divides is not diversity, but exclusion. In fact, the one Roman rite propagated by Francis already has many different forms: the old variants of the Milanese and Mozarabic rites stand alongside the new, inculturated forms of Mass in the Congo, Australia and Mexico. Liturgical diversity enriches the church. Old and new liturgy can mutually enrich each other. The leak could now be the impetus for Pope Leo XIV, who is open to tradition, to make a new attempt at liturgical peace. [source]


6 comments:

Mark Thomas said...

The Felix Naumann (Katholisch.de) article in question, promoted by Rorate Caeli, for example, declared:

"Today it is clear: Traditionis custodes has failed, and not the pastorally clever solution of Summorum Pontificum..."

That is an interesting claim as Rorate Caeli, as well as additional "traditionalist" outlets, promoted a similar same claim against Summorum Pontificum.

That is, within the TLM Movement, the following from Peter Kwasniewski has enjoyed widespread publicity:

https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2021/07/beyond-summorum-pontificum-work-of.html

"Summorum Pontificum is destined to be one of the great papal interventions in all of history, but it is no more than damage control; it is not a pillar, much less a foundation, of a permanent structure.

"And those who lean on it too much will find themselves crushed by its incoherences.

"Thus, we can see that Summorum Pontificum contains profound tensions within itself, inasmuch as it reflects and reinforces certain false principles of ecclesiology and liturgy that led to the very crisis to which it was a partial response.

"In fact, it would not be too much to say that there are fictions, even lies, in the document."

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There are "traditionalists" who would have us believe that Summorum Pontificum, as well as Traditionis Custodes, were built upon lies.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

rcg said...

I think manipulation of the Pope at that time was what brought about TC. I think the challenge for This Pope is to find a way to get the benefits of SP and TC to survive and allow the Church to grow as a single entity and heal the de facto schism that we are operating under today.

Mark Thomas said...

I have complete confidence that His Holiness, Pope Leo XIV, will govern the True Church in holy, honest fashion. In that regard, I am convinced that holy Pope Leo XIV will follow in the footsteps of his two immediate predecessors.

I will respect, as well as obey, any decision that His Holiness may render in regard to Summorum Pontificum/Traditionis Custodes.

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Father McDonald, I appreciate the wonderful photograph of your having offered Holy Mass for, I believe, the Deacon, and his family.

It is especially uplifting that you had offered Mass in the presence of many children. It is a given that they have viewed you as a holy remodel.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

ByzRus said...

I hear you.

I just find it interesting the microscope under which both the TLM and its adherents have been placed. An ultimate prayer and those that pray.

Then, an Amazonian rite that likely is of questionable necessity and "Have it your way" NO abuses hardly raise an eyebrow.

Hoping for true long term equity that's both healthy and needed within the RC.

ByzRus said...

"God willing, Pope Leo will issue his own Motu Proprio or Apostolic Letter that will acknowledge the best of SP and TC and not marginalize Catholics who prefer one or the other usages of the Roman or Latin Rite."

At this juncture, I'm not sure there is any "best" within TC. It is beyond redemption.

rcg said...

I am trying to avoid that conclusion, our a spirit of synodality. You may mock me later, over beer.