The general opinion even at the Vatican is that where rubrics are not mentioned for certain actions in the Modern Mass, the 1962 Roman Missal can be used as a source of instruction on these rubrics. The clearest example of this is the use of the Chalice Veil, Burse and liturgical folding and unfolding of the corporal cloth. As well the chalice pall’s use during the Liturgy of the Eucharist has no rubrics in the modern Mass, thus even at St. Peter’s papal Masses, the pall rubrics are from the 1962 Roman Missal.
There are so many options in the Modern Missal. The Penitential Act is one of them and a partial hold-over from the Prayers at the Foot of the Altar. Technically in the 1962 Missal the PATFOTA are private prayers for the priest and other liturgical ministers prior to the beginning of the Mass. For the laity, in the Sung Mass of 1962, the Mass begins with the Entrance Chant (Introit) moving from that and without commentary directly to the 9 fold Kyrie. The Kyrie was not and never was seen as penitential. It was a part of the fixed nature of the Order of Mass for the Laity, separate from the Confiteors at the Foot of the Altar and other penitential private prayers of the priest and his assistants.
The latest Modern Latin Rite Mass is the Ordinariate’s Divine Worship, the Missal, allows for the quiet prayers of the priest to be recited quietly from the 1962 Roman Missal such as the PATFOTA, prayer of the priest ascending to the altar to kiss it and the prayer for kissing the altar. As well the 1962 Offertory Prayers, always prayed in silent voice, can be use in place of the modern offertory prayers and includes the Lavabo and the Suscipiat.
The double genuflections at the consecrations, the additional kissing of the altar and even the additional Signs of the Cross during the Roman Canon can be done, as well as the Sign of the Cross at the end of the Gloria and Credo and at the Benedictus of the Sanctus!
How kosher is all of this? It is kosher in the Latin Rite’s Ordinariate Missal. It is the patrimony of the Latin Rite easily recovered. Is it a liturgical abuse to recover these?
But back to the Kyrie. don’t use the penitential act with the trope, then Lord have Mercy, trope, Christ have Mercy and the final trope, Lord have Mercy followed by the liturgical absolution. That ties the Kyrie to the Penitential Act which it should not be by Tradition. Always use the Confiteor, or the rarely used second option followed by the liturgical absolution then the stand alone Kyrie, 9 or 6 fold.
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Dear Father, others have done some good "heavy lifting" on this topic. Here is a piece from NLM (New Liturgical Movement) about different approaches to rubrics - https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2018/01/two-attitudes-toward-ordinary-form.html. Unfortunately, it was later followed up with this article - https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2022/06/restoration-not-reform-is-only-way.html. As a priest of the Ordinariate, I greatly appreciate the latitude that we have in bringing older beautiful ars celebrandi back into current practice in the Church.
Father “Make it Up” will be here shortly to find fault. But since he votes for the Party of Intrinsic Evil he has zero credibility.
Father Bolin said..."Unfortunately, it was later followed up with this article - https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2022/06/restoration-not-reform-is-only-way.html."
Peter Kwasniewski, who authored the article in question, is an extremist who has insisted that the Holy Mass of Pope Saint Paul VI is an irreformable "imposter" Mass that must, and will, be destroyed.
Peter Kwasniewski has long denounced the reform-of-the-reform as a "dead-end" enterprise.
He has insisted that the "imposter" Mass of Pope Saint Paul VI is a fraud that has broken with the Latin Church's liturgical tradition.
Therefore, Peter Kwasniewski has long insisted that the addition of "traditional" Latin Church liturgical practices to the reformed Mass will not change the supposed "fact" that said Mass is an "imposter" Mass, according to Peter Kwasniewski.
Even with added "traditional" liturgical practices, the Holy Mass of Pope Saint Paul VI will always remain alien to the Church/TLM, in Peter Kwasniewski's view. Therefore, Peter Kwasniewski has insisted upon the following:
"If the priest were to celebrate the new Mass 'in continuity,' he would be fostering an illusion of continuity that largely does not exist, whether one views it euchologically, ceremonially, or phenomenologically; he would be artificially extending the lifespan of an entity that is better off dying."
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Now that that's out of the way, anyone up for making an on-topic comment?
I'll take a stab--the priest could pray the Iudica me and/or other PATFOTA during the beginning procession and recite the Prologue of John while processing out. The priest could celebrate at the altar, rather than from the chair, when there's one server. Incensations could be done the traditional way, I think.
Nick
Peter Kwasniewski declared: "If the priest were to celebrate the new Mass 'in continuity,' he would be fostering an illusion of continuity that largely does not exist, whether one views it euchologically, ceremonially, or phenomenologically; he would be artificially extending the lifespan of an entity that is better off dying."
Pope Benedict XVI: "There is no contradiction between the two editions of the Roman Missal. In the history of the liturgy there is growth and progress, but no rupture."
"...it is clearly seen that the new Missal will certainly remain the ordinary Form of the Roman Rite..."
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Peter Peter Kwasniewski has, for years, been a popular figure within the TLM Movement. His war against Pope Benedict XVI's gallant liturgical peace plan, supported by more than a few "traditionalists," helped to usher in Traditionis Custodes.
We need to pray that Peter Kwasniewski will end his Satanic war against the Holy Mass of Pope Saint Paul VI.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
"Satanic war against the 'Holy' Mass of Saint Paul VI"
The expert on demonology has pontificated his infallible opinion again.
Oh dear bloghog, bloviate some more for our ignorant ears. Spread your wisdom across our unwashed...
...or, more to the point, it's amazing how incredibly blind you are to the fact that all you do here (besides make a fool of yourself) is carry on a conversation with yourself. We not only aren't interested in you "expertise" and _ss kissing, but we're embarrassed FOR you, because you're too ignorant to feel any embarrassment.
Oops--sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt your conversation with yourself. Throw the thorazine away and keep typing what those voices tell you.
Jerome Merwick,
The Blog Hog has chased away some very insightful commenters. He is breathtakingly arrogant thing, a lefty characteristic!
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Pax, Pax, Pax
B.H.
LOL!
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