I am convinced that if the attempt to suppress the 1962 Missal occurs in most dioceses and we revert to the days prior to Pope St. John Paul’s liberalism, although stringent allowance of the 1962 Missal, that there needs to be a re-enchantment of the Modern Missal with elements from the 1962 Missal which has about 1,500 years of development to that point.
I have indicated that the Ordinariate’s optional allowance of Tridentine sensibilities in their Divine Worship, the Missal, must be granted to the normative Latin Rite Mass—it must be and it can be!
At any rate, here is Dr. Janet Hunt’s third installment of her commentary at Crisis on the 1962 Missal and the Modern Missal. It is very good:
The Genesis of the Novus Ordo and “Theological and Spiritual Flaws” of the TLM
Part Three of a response to Cavadini, Healy, and Weinandy's critique of the traditional Latin Mass.
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Father McDonald,
This is an excellent read and should be required reading for our branch managers in charge of managing the decline.
It still stuns me that more bishops did not push back on the imposition of the Novus Ordo, an act of a totalitarian and not that of a loving sheperd. It repulses me that he was made a "saint" and no, Humanae Vitae does not come close to undoing the tremendous damage Paul VI caused.
"Cavadini, Healy, and Weinandy (CHW) said..."The Church’s tradition, of which the liturgy is a constitutive element, is not frozen in time but is a living tradition that develops with the help of the Holy Spirit, in fidelity to the deposit of faith...”
Janet E. Smith replied that "they imply that the TLM has been frozen in time. That is a completely insupportable claim."
Father Joseph Ratzinger, 1966 A.D:
"The [liturgical] additions of the late Middle...At that time, the fate of the Western liturgy was linked to a set authority, which worked in a strictly bureaucratic way, lacking any historic vision and considering the problem of the liturgy from the sole viewpoint of rubrics and ceremonies, like a problem of etiquette in a saint's court, so to speak."
"As a consequence of this link, there was a complete archeologization of the liturgy, which from the state of a living history was changed into that of pure conservation and, therefore, condemned to an internal death."
"Liturgy became once and forever a closed construction, firmly petrified."
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Those idiotic saints and martyrs of the pre-Vatican II Church stunted by a petrified Mass! Imagine what would have been in a 1970’s style Mass.
Father McDonald said..."Those idiotic saints and martyrs of the pre-Vatican II Church stunted by a petrified Mass! Imagine what would have been in a 1970’s style Mass."
I reported simply Father Joseph Ratzinger's bleak assessment of the "fossilized" state of pre-Vatican II Latin Church liturgy.
Father Joseph Ratzinger's assessment of pre-Vatican II liturgy was so harsh that he insisted that the Saints of the Counter-Reformation, for example, — Ignatius, Teresa of Ávila, John of the Cross — had not drawn their spirituality from the liturgy.
In 1998 A.D., then-Cardinal Ratzinger said of the pre-Vatican II TLM:
"One was never in contact with the liturgy itself."
"On the other hand, in those places where the Liturgical Movement had created a certain love for the liturgy, where the Movement had anticipated the essential ideas of the Council..."
Janet E. Smith's essay, in several instances, is at tremendous odds with Joseph Ratzinger's declarations in regard to (Roman) liturgy.
In regard to several points that she has delineated via her essay in question: To agree with Janet E. Smith is to disagree with Joseph Ratzinger.
For that matter, to agree with Janet E. Smith is to disagree with holy Popes Saint Paul VI, Blessed John Paul I, Saint John Paul II, Benedict XVI, as well as Francis.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
"Cavadini, Healy, and Weinandy (CHW) said..."The Church’s tradition, of which the liturgy is The is not frozen in time but is a living tradition that develops with the help of the Holy Spirit, in fidelity to the deposit of faith...”
Janet E. Smith replied that "they imply that the TLM has been frozen in time. That is a completely insupportable claim."
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From: The Pillar.
“Benedict XVI fundamentally and irreversibly changed the way the Church understands divine worship.”
January 9, 2023
“Benedict XVI fundamentally and irreversibly changed the way the Church understands divine worship, and the effect of that radical renewal is only just beginning to be seen,” said Fr. James Bradley, a priest of the Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham, a professor of canon law at The Catholic University of America, and a PhD candidate in liturgical studies at the University of Vienna.
"At the time of the council, Ratzinger warned that “the problem of divine worship” was that “the essence of the ancient Christian liturgy in the texts were no longer visible in the overgrowth of pious additions.”
"Since the reform of the Council of Trent, the liturgy had been archaized and impoverished, he said, lamenting that the spiritual lives of the great saints of the Counter-Reformation were separated from their experience of the liturgy."
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Joseph Ratzinger's comments in question stand in complete opposition to Janet E. Smith's comments.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
More bilge from one of the Great Prevaricators
I doubt Mark Thomas read the article, but if he did, he clearly does not comprehend what the author is saying. He really can’t refute what it says. Posting lots on non sequiturs won’t cut it.
As noted in the article, Rembert Weakland withheld documentation which could have had us in a completely different space right now. The actions he took in undermining the Church in preserving and conserving the traditions, coupled with his actions on hiding child sex abuse, have changed the course of history. It really is just breathtaking.
Surprise - Weakland was a homosexual. It's a story that plays out over and over again.
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