This photo made the New York Times! That’s First Baptist Church in Macon, GA. It is on the highest point downtown. To its immediate left is my former parish, St. Joseph. The two are so close I could almost touch first Baptist by reaching my arm out of the rectory window. Not sure, though, how flattering this lone truck parade is, though. A little trivia, the Jesuits made sure St. Joseph’s spires were taller than First Baptist.
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Vice President Joe Biden's dozen at Warm Springs, GA (Associated Press photo):
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As you know, it was not a "lone truck" parade. Why would you say such a thing, knowing it to be false?
Surely the NYT would have selected a more flattering photo of this so called parade. I rest my case.
Anonymous K,
Yet you are fine with the media showing photos of huge Trump gatherings
Don't worry, Macon-Bibb County will do their usual thing and vote Democratic on November 3. Bibb County hasn't voted Republican for president in over 30 years...
Here is a great Trump triumph, something none of his predecessors could accomplish. But the braindead will ignore this:
Let's begin with the underreported story of the peace that is breaking out in the Middle East. It began with the deal brokered between UAE and Israel. Since then, many others have joined, with Sudan being the most recent. This was not thought possible before now, yet the Trump team brought this about. It's likely the Saudis will join in, and even possible an isolated Iran could finally come to its senses.
This is an achievement without parallel, one that has wonderful ramifications for all of us. If he had accomplished nothing else, this would be a greater legacy than the last four Presidents combined. It is that consequential.
Speaking of peace, Trump has also succeeded by beginning no new wars. Barely a hint of one. Afghanistan is being wound down; Trump is succeeding in taming the famed military-industrial complex. An accomplishment that should please most every American of all political stripes. He wants America to be great again, but doesn't want us to be entangled in unnecessary wars, and hasn't let us become entangled in this kind of thing. Doing that while keeping our military strong is truly wonderful.
"...a great Trump triumph..."
Well, no.
Israel established a diplomatic office in Abu Dhabi, UAE in 2015. Guess who was president of the USA then. Not Trump.
"Despite being hailed as a “peace deal,” the UAE-Israel agreement will more likely prolong ongoing regional wars. It will intensify conflict in those contested zones of the Middle East where the two blocs back rival actors—primarily Yemen, Libya, and Syria. The insurgent bloc is winning in all three conflicts."
"The UAE-Israel agreement is extremely controversial in the Arab world because it can be understood as an abandonment of the Palestinians—hence the recent decisions of the UAE’s allies in Sudan and Saudi Arabia to distance themselves. This increases the extent to which Trump and Kushner are beholden to the Emirati leadership for helping deliver them a much-needed media boost."
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/08/21/the-israel-uae-deal-wont-bring-peace-but-it-will-prolong-the-war-in-libya/
The Israel/UAE agreement is not a "peace deal" since the UAE and Israel have never been at war. Only the brain dead think a deal between nations that have not been at war is a "peace" deal.
The Saudis will not join in as long as King Salman is on the throne. The Crown Prince's silence is indicative of his bending to his father's will.
"Without parallel"? Try again. The peace deal brokered by the Democrat Jimmy Carter between Israel and Egypt was a far greater accomplishment and has had far greater impact on peace in that region.
I sent you the link to the Macon news broadcast showing numerous vehicles in the Ridin' With Biden event.
Why would you say, "Not sure, though, how flattering this lone truck parade is, though." knowing that it was not true?
My post was on the photo the New York Times used not any other photo or video. The photo says it all and is what it is. I rest my case.
Anonymous 6:03: I’m sure Father McDonald’s answer made sense to him. We won’t lose any sleep over it.
The photo only shows one truck. There could have been 50 and even 100 or more but we will never know. The NYT could have shown the full number but didn't. That begs the question,why? Is it because there were not that many in the "parade".
Father McDonald made a good point.
As far as the comment at 6:03, well, tell us how many "numerous vehicles" there were.
Anon 10:09 - Fr. McDonald was WELL aware that this was not a "lone truck" parade. I sent him the photo that he posted AND I sent him the link to the Macon news broadcast that showed many other vehicles in the "Ridin' With Biden" event.
The link I sent him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHBsxch_bWA
The reporter states, "...dozens of people rode through downtown Macon..." As Fr. McDonald likes to say, go do your homework and report back to us how many vehicles were in this "lone truck" parade.
So, the question remains, why would he post something that he knows to be false.
This is the New York Times photo, which my post was about. Shall I post the number of Biden supporters at his rally yesterday in Warm Springs, also in our Diocese? Dozens of people is just as sad. You should have seen Trump’s parade in Richmond Hill and later the boat parade! THOUSANDS OF DOZENS.
Maybe Biden would have had more supporters if they hadn't been aborted.
Y’all won’t be so smug after a Biden landslide victory on Nov 3rd!
It is quite possible that Kamala Harris will become our president and we'll have to deal with it, but I don't think it will be a landslide but extremely closer like a razor's edge.
I just updated this post to include Joe Biden stumping for Kamala Harris in Warm Springs, Georgia (west Georgia). I suspect that you know who will state there were a dozen or more behind the camera. He'll come up with photos and videos to show it.
You can't make this stuff up!
I wouldn't expect huge crowds at Biden events since Democrats by and large see large gatherings as dangerous while Trump supporters tend to see gathering in large groups as an act of defiance. I wouldn't read into any photo who has a majority of support.
I predict Trump will lose. Many who post here consider the Democrats to basically be satanic and won't tolerate any legitimate criticism of Trump as a result, so I won't offer any, but people are very dissatisfied with him once you step out of the "Demoncrat" bubble. Maybe it will be a landslide or maybe it won't, but I genuinely have a hard time believing Trump will win.
Indeed it will be very close; we may not know the next day, but by December 13 (The Solemnity of Our Lady of Guadalupe, btw) it must be ratified one way or the other and the Supreme Court will have to do it. Perhaps another lady will decide? Supreme Court Justice Amy C. Barrett? Keep in mind it was on that Solemnity that George Bush was declared the President by the Supreme Court.
Bee here:
I don't know...maybe Trump will lose. But not because he's a bad President, but because the Leftists are bad people, and have been in outrage over his election since Nov. 4th, 2016. They are not going to let this go on if they can help it, as was evident in some of their more abusive tactics against him over the past 4 years, like the Mueller investigation and the impeachment, and the relentless negative press, which criticizes him relentlessly. I think they will do ANYTHING, ANYTHING AT ALL, to win and get him out, and they are not above lying and cheating, as was so evident in the Mueller investigation. Because it's about the money, and moving this country along toward the continuum of a one world government. Trump is moving the U.S. away from global powers like the U.N., like the W.H.O., like working in concert with the European Union, and conforming with global opinions about open borders, climate change, trade, and the implementation of Marxist ideologies. And they don't like that....they don't like that at all...
God Bless.
Bee
Trump is a bad president; before that he is a bad person. Just ask Ivana and Marla about his trustworthiness.
Next time you think globalism and working in concert with other nations and international groups is a "bad" thing, try living without the $3.1 trillion dollars worth of capital, consumer, industrial, automotive, and food/beverage goods that are imported annually.
Father M. a geographic correction. Warm Springs is not in your diocese. It is in Meriwether County, which is in the Archdiocese of Atlanta. But adjoining Harris County is in your diocese. Harris County of course is the northwest corner of the diocese. (Maybe another time I could ask why the Columbus area is not in the Archdiocese of Atlanta--Columbus certainly is much closer to Atlanta than to Savannah.)
Ironically, Meriwether County has not voted Democratic for president in decades, I think not since the 2000 Bush/Gore contest. The values of today's Democratic party certainly don't play well in rural America.
Thanks for the correction. It must be close,though, to Pine Mountain in our diocese where Calloway Gardens is.
Macon where I was for 13 years is a bit closer to Atlanta, I think. I could get to the airport there from the rectory in an hour in light traffic. Once you drive about 20 miles up I-75, you start hitting the Atlanta southern suburbs. There was talk of a speed train from Atlanta to Macon which could make Macon a bedroom suburb of Atlanta.
Bee here:
I'm not going to go around and around with you, "Anonymous" at Oct. 28, 2020 at 12:19 pm. It's just not worth my time. You believe the direction socialism goes is correct, and I don't. It's just that simple.
I much prefer the life and economy of the United States to the Communist/Marxist/Socialist states, such as the former Poland, the current Venezuela, the current China, the current Soviet Union, the current Cuba, the current Chile, or Philippines, or Ecuador, or Mexico, or even France. President Trump has gone a long way reversing the Leftist political, social and especially economic, march to Marxist policies in this country. And I hope he will have four more years to continue to do so.
And I often wonder why, but no Leftist seems to be able to explain, if this country is so structurally rabid, so unfair and unjust, so racist, why do we seem to have such a problem controlling the influx of literally millions who want to come and live here (in this supposed hell hole) from around the world, and the tens of thousands who cross our borders to live here illegally? Why do have to build literal (and figurative) walls to keep people out, while the Marxist countries have build (often figurative, but just as effective) walls to keep people in?
God bless.
Bee
Beezer - Globalism isn't socialism. Do your homework and report back to us on the difference.
I'd love to know what "Leftist" "political, social and especially economic, march" you think Trump has reversed. (I suspect it's as effective as his so-called "ban" on immigration from China that let 30,000 to 40,000 travellers come into the USA after the "ban" went into effect.)
People come here to make more money than they can make in their homelands - it's really not a difficult question. Monthly minimum wage in Peru is $284, in India, $178, and in Ethiopia, $71.
Bee, the answer to your question has a pretty common sense answer. You can think a country is great while thinking it still has problems that need to be fixed. That's pretty much the attitude held by most liberals and conservatives.
"I wouldn't expect huge crowds at Biden events since Democrats by and large see large gatherings as dangerous while "
That's the funnist , most rediculous thing I've read today. I guess the 771 that showed up in Atlanta for Biden didn't get the memo.
Here's another one:
"Next time you think globalism and working in concert with other nations and international groups is a "bad" thing, try living without the $3.1 trillion dollars worth of capital, consumer, industrial, automotive, and food/beverage goods that are imported annually."
How about those other nations doing without the $3.1 trillion dollars we're forking over to them for consumer, industrial, automotive, and food/beverage goods. Which by he way, a good portion is U.S. manufacturing established abroad (ok, for cheaper labor and tax breaks-but we are providing jobs ,payroll and positive economic impact). I myself drive a Japanese car assembled in Canada. who says we are not helping out those in other countries?
Our local news reported that there were 13 cars at the Biden Macon event. There was a similar event in support of Trump in Arizona the other day which stretched 96 miles!
Father M. you are correct, Macon is closer to Atlanta than Columbus is---Macon is about 85 miles from its downtown to downtown Atlanta while Columbus is about 105 miles from downtown Atlanta. I guess my earlier point was since both cities are much closer to Atlanta than to Savannah, it would be easier from a geographical standpoint for the archbishop of Atlanta to tend to the flocks there than Savannah's. But maybe the flip side is that the Atlanta Archdiocese already is so large in population, the archbishop already has enough on his hands without adding more territory for him to cover. Columbia County was transferred from the Atlanta Archdiocese to Savannah's in the late 1970s, I suspect because of its connection to Augusta (Richmond County)---maybe someday McDuffie County (Thomson), about 30 miles west of Augusta, will get transferred too as suburban growth heads out there.
Meriwether County did back Gore over the second President Bush, 20 years ago, by 4 points---but that was when you had some "yellow dog" Democrats of the FDR era still around. Very, very, very few people are alive today who could have voted for FDR in 1944, his last time on the ballot (back then the voting age in most places was 21). Thus, you have to be at least 97 today to have voted for him in 1944. Warm Springs probably was a bad choice for reasons of age too--reinforces the image of Biden as an old, worn-out politician---the guy with "old ideas".
Bee here:
To the Anonymi who said:
"People come here to make more money than they can make in their homelands - it's really not a difficult question. Monthly minimum wage in Peru is $284, in India, $178, and in Ethiopia, $71."
But that begs the question, why don't they rush to the utopic socialist countries like Venezuela or Cuba, or that utopia China? Those places MUST be better than the U.S., since they are the ideal, and are what the Left is advocating we here in the U.S. become. Why come to a place where you will be subjected to the horrors of racism and exploitation, when you can choose a workers' paradise instead?
Here's what the Communist Party USA says in an article about Black Lives Matter:
https://cpusa.org/article/black-lives-matter/
"With capitalism came modern American slavery and the government policy of racist oppression and brutality.
The system of chattel slavery was defeated, but racial oppression remains a cornerstone of capitalist rule in our country. After the defeat of the old Jim Crow (U.S. apartheid) in the 1960s, new forms were created. The majority of African Americans remained segregated and unequal in most vital areas of life.
Jim Crow extended the reign of terror by keeping millions of African Americans and other people of color trapped in poverty, ill-housed, ill-fed, poorly educated, brutalized by the police, and incarcerated at the highest rate in the world.
All of this was not possible without systemic, structural racism, including a policy of racial exclusion, to make it work. Racial profiling in law enforcement and in private and public employment has a central place in a system of oppression that penalizes people of color with double and triple unemployment, poverty, and incarceration rates.
Holding Black folks in deep poverty and oppression, in order to keep people—especially working-class people—racially divided remains a basic part of U.S. capitalist rule. It is a central reason the ruling 1% can maintain their power and privilege. Most African Americans, Native Americans, Latinos, Asian, and Pacific peoples who find themselves trapped in a super-exploited, racially oppressed crisis state of existence are there not because they are childlike, criminal, inferior, lazy, unintelligent or violent or lack initiative and discipline. It is the system of racial oppression and terror that’s primarily responsible, and this is what must be challenged. This should be the historic mission of all people of good will who want a democratic and humane society with economic and social equality and justice for all."
Gee, if I was looking to get out of Peru or India or Ethiopia, I think I'd avoid wanting to come such a place to live, even if my wages where I live now are low. I'd much rather go to a workers' paradise like Venezuela or China.
"You can think a country is great while thinking it still has problems that need to be fixed."
The Communist Party USA website doesn't give the impression the Left thinks the U.S. is great but just has some problems that need to be "fixed." Seems like they think the entire system itself needs to be overthrown, toward socialism.
God bless.
Bee
Trump supporters are busy partying. Biden supporters are busy voting. Let’s see who’s partying January 21st.
Certainly if Biden wins, democrats will be masked and cowering individually in their basements. And then Republicans will have an impeachment show like Nancy had—not. Republicans want to delay the inevitable ascendency of Kamala to be president in B’s first term.
I pray that should he become president, that Mister Joe Biden would renounce his support of the Satanic Homosexual Lobby.
Pope Francis, during his 2013 A.D. press conference on his way home from Brazil, denounced the Homosexual Lobby.
Joe Biden, unfortunately, has sold himself to the Homosexual Lobby — also to Culture of Death abortionists.
Joe Biden's sellout to the Culture of Death Homosexual/Abortion Lobbies is deep...Marianas Trench deep.
But a miraculous conversion by Joe Biden to the Culture of Life is possible.
May Joe Biden embrace Pope Francis' holy teachings in regard to human sexuality, as well as abortion.
We must pray for our brother, Joe Biden.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
"But that begs the question, why don't they rush to the utopic socialist countries like Venezuela or Cuba, or that utopia China?"
No, it doesn't "beg the question." They dont rush to the countries you name because they can make more money here.
The "Left" is not advocating that the USA become like Venezuela, Cuba, or China. That's a false statement.
Racial oppression, and oppression in general, is still a reality in our country and in many others. India continues to struggle with class oppression regarding the Dalits. The Romani people face oppression in many parts of Europe. Aboriginal people in Australia face it daily.
If you think oppression based on race in this country does not continue, you are fooling yourself.
Bee here:
Okay, "Anonymous" at Oct. 29 at 10:21am.
Oh, but it DOES beg the question about why they come here and not go to socialist or communist countries. Why don't those socialist/communist countries pay higher wages than this capitalist country? I mean, isn't that the point of Marxist ideology? Isn't it so the workers will be better paid, better cared for, have a much better standard of living than offered by the capitalistic system, which is fraught with systemic racism which exploits the worker? That's the promise. I am positive of it. So, who in their right mind would go come to the United States where they will be exploited and underpaid and suffer racial oppression, rather than places like China and Cuba and Venezuela where Marxism is flourishing and the promise of a better life is being realized? How could that be?????
And oh, the question was not whether oppression exists, but why anyone would choose to come to a place where oppression is guaranteed to happen, because it is embedded in the very structures of the capitalistic system and is a function of capitalism? Marxists argue you can't get rid of the racism unless you get rid of the capitalism, because the very structure of capitalism is built on oppression.
So, my initial question, which you still haven't addressed, and no Leftist whom I have asked seems to be able to answer, why would anyone wishing to leave their own country to find a better more prosperous life, come to the United States with it's systemic racist structures under which they are sure to be exploited and suffer, rather than China or Venezuela or Cuba, where the Marxist ideology is fully realized?
God bless.
Bee
"Why don't those socialist/communist countries pay higher wages than this capitalist country? I mean, isn't that the point of Marxist ideology?"
No, it's not. The point of Marxism is the abolition of private and to make society classless. Rule by the workers is the goal.
Oppression happens everywhere. More in some places, less in others.
I have asnwered your questions. You simply don't want to hear the answers, so you make the false claim that I have not.
Well Bee, maybe "leftists" (whatever you think that means) would have an easier time answering your question if you showed a basic understanding of what they believe or of American politics generally. I mean, pretty much everyone I know would consider "liberal" to be a broad reference to Democrats and not the Communist Party for example.
Bee here:
"Anonymi" at Oct 29 5:25 and 5:38pm
You are always a trip. Always. :-)
But God bless.
Bee
Bee - and you are often mistaken. Often.
God Bless.
Meriwether County has only one Catholic Church: St. Elizabeth Seton Mission located between Warm Springs and Manchester. It is a mission of St. Peter's parish in LaGrange, which includes all of Troup and Meriwether counties in the Archdiocese of Atlanta. The next closest Catholic Church is Christ the King parish in Pine Mountain which includes most of Harris and all of Talbot counties in the Diocese of Savannah.
Bee here:
Anonymous at Oct. 30 8:23 am:
Not about you I'm not.
God bless.
Bee
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