Bringing in a person like this, coming from a terribly dysfunctional family, in order to tug at the heartstrings of the amoral is an abomination and the Democrat Party should be roundly condemned for it by the Church.
Because of her family situation, she circumvents her parents, as she was a minor, in order to procure an abortion, which she proudly proclaims to be a good thing, a good choice for her.
She not only wants abortion on demand and at any time during a pregnancy up to the last moment and the desire to kill a born child immediately after birth, but she doesn't want minors to have to have parental permission for such a serious medical procedure.
Would the democrats applaud a minor being able to buy a gun without parental permission in order to shoot her sexually abusive father and say it was justifiable homicide?
Let this woman and her democrat minions be anathema!
West Virginia Mother Shares First-Ever Abortion Story During A SCOTUS Confirmation Hearing
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If she needed her ears pierced she would need parental consent if underaged
Biden also said an 8 year old should be able to choose their sex. Great world
Time for divine intervention is long past due.
Father Kavanaugh,
I was waiting for your ringing defense of the Abortion Party snd Joe Biden’s stating an 8 year old can elect their gender!
I am surprised a corrupt “Catholic” bishop or priest has not tried to refute my comment!
Nearly 50 years after Roe, the Supreme Court is still dealing with one abortion measure after another...if I were them, I would be tired of it. The court should simply overturn Roe (which was pure legislation anyway---I mean does anyone of sound mind thinks the Constitution mandates its "trimester" approach?) and let the states figure out what to do about the issue. Some doubtless and unfortunately would keep it legal, but others (in the South and some of the Midwest/West) would probably restrict it to varying degrees, maybe banning it except in cases of life of the mother, rape and incest, or just in cases of life of the mother...who knows? Georgia passed a heartbeat bill (currently tied up in the courts), prohibiting abortion (with some exceptions) after 6 weeks. We will see in a few weeks whether there are any political consequences because of that---Georgia after all is pretty tight in presidential polls these days (blue metro Atlanta versus the red rest of the state).
Below is a link of a talk by Bishop Fulton Sheen from 60 years ago.
Very apropos to what is happening today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy6VtXVcGFw&feature=youtu.be
I am on board with Father McDonald in that I denounce the Democratic Party as a Culture of Death political party.
But then, the Republican Party also advances the Culture of Death.
In regard to the video pro-abortion testimony of Crystal Good: She reported that her stepfather had impregnated her against her will.
Would not President Trump support Crystal Good's abortion?
President Trump has declared that he supports abortions in regard to cases of rape, and incest, (as well as the mother's health).
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Over the past 2 years or so my views on the situation re abortion and US politics have been formed by what I’ve read here and Fr Z’s blog and listening to Taylor Marshall.
It was a surprise and shock for me, an Australian, to read this weekend an article by a Catholic journalist claiming the following :
(Also, this will give you some idea what thousands of Catholics in Australia and New Zealand, who like me know little to nothing about US politics and history, are reading this weekend on this issue)
“The truth is neither major party in the USA wants to overturn Roe v Wade. Both major parties in the USA want abortion to remain legal. The only difference is Republicans lie to Americans about it and Democrats do not.
Furthermore, abortion became legal in the USA because of Republicans, and it remains legal because of Republicans. In 2 of the first states to legalise abortion - California and New York - the legislation was signed into law by Republican governors : Ronald Reagan and Nelson Rockefeller, respectively.
In 1973, 5 of the 7 justices who voted to legalise abortion in Roe v Wade were Republicans, and the opinion was written by a Republican, Harry Blackmun. Two decades later, all 5 justices who voted to uphold Roe in Planned Parenthood v Casey were Republicans.
.....the abortion rate shrank every single year that Barack Obama was president. By 2016, the last year of his presidency, it had plummeted to its lowest rate since 1973 : 11.8 abortions per 1,000 women.....
one undeniable reason for this was that Obama the social safety net.
.....the Republican Party lies that it wants to overturn Roe v Wade. Indeed, while Democratic presidents will always nominate pro-choice judges to the Supreme Court, the justices who provide the swing votes to keep abortion legal are always named by Republican presidents.
The Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomases and Samuel Ailton’s ?
Cover.
The Democratic Party ardently backs legal access to abortion, but it is entirely in line with the Catholic Church on every other violation of life, human integrity and dignity. Plus, under Democratic presidents the abortion rate declines.
In the USA, the Democrat Party is the actual party of life......”.
I and other Catholics here in Australia would have no idea how accurate or inaccurate the above facts are.....no, that could be researched.....or rather how fair and true are the interpretations of events made by this particular Catholic journalist ?
PJK.
"Will the Church be forced to say that Catholics cannot be Democrats?"
Uh, no....
Some areas in the United States are so heavily Democratic (in metro Atlanta, Clayton, DeKalb and Fulton Counties), that there is no Republican option---or lets say, viable option. So you are basically left with "who is the least offensive Democrat?" In some instances, it may be a distinction without a difference---all the Democratic candidates might be unacceptable from a Catholic perspective.
Fulton County, which includes most of the city of Atlanta, has not voted Republican for president since the 1972 Nixon landslide. Next-door DeKalb County has not voted Republican for president since the 1984 Reagan landslide. In 2002 and 2006, a lot of Republicans in DeKalb County voted in the Democratic primary to vote out the radical Cynthia McKinney. Yes, her 2006 successor Hank Johnson is pretty leftist, but she was worse. And there was no way Cynthia McKinney was going to lose to a Republican---if you were Republican and wanted her out, the only viable path was to vote in the Democratic primary.
Here in Fulton County, a lot of Republicans crossed over in June to vote in the Democratic primary to vote out the ineffective District Attorney Paul Howard. There was no Republican running for the seat (even if there were, it would not matter as a Republican can't win Fulton County). Howard lost and certainly some of his defeat was due to the GOP crossover vote.
And then there is also the matter of an unacceptable Republican, say the racist David Duke of Louisiana. Just maybe that would be a reason to vote Democratic?
AS for Trump, yes he does believe in exceptions on abortion, but it really does not matter personally what he believes. What is more important is he would wants the people to have a say in the matter---as he says, a reversal of Roe would send the abortion issue back to the states, instead of unelected judges who make up law. Does anyone really believe that Democrats want the people to have a say in abortion policy?
MT, the left-wing tool, has weighed in. However, if he followed other orthodox Catholic websites he might have seen this:
Pro-life leaders praised President Donald Trump’s continued actions for life.
“President Trump is the most pro-life president our nation has ever seen, and today he delivered another important victory for conscience in America. Abortion is not health care and should never be mandated by the government,” said Susan B. Anthony List President Marjorie Dannenfelser. “We thank President Trump and Secretary Azar for standing firmly on the side of the majority of Americans who reject taxpayer funding of abortion, and for the action taken today to roll back the Obama/Biden-era assault on conscience.
Catholic Archbishop Joseph F. Naumann, chairman of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ Committee on Pro-Life Activities, also celebrated the news."
Meanwhile, Senile Joe is stating that if Roe v Wade is over-turned he will make abortion the law of the land. He also said an 8 year old should be able to choose their gender.
There are lots of women like this one. Today singer Stevie Nicks also proclaimed that "Fleetwood Mac" (well, HER version of the band) would never have happened if she hadn't had an abortion.
Whether it's Miss Nick's distorted sense of importance or the defiance and denial the woman in the video displays, it's all the same thing: A refusal to get real.
When women get real with themselves and get real with God, they KNOW what an abortion is. In cases like these, I suspect the guilt and grief would be too overwhelming for them to cope with, hence the false personas that defend the indefensible. Only Jesus Christ can heal these pathetic women.
PJK, October 18, 2020 at 8:29 AM...
Peace and good health to you, your family, as well as each Australian.
PJK, it is true that Republicans play fast and loose in regard to abortion.
I agree with Father McDonald's point via this thread: The Democratic Party, in regard to abortion, not to mention additional ways, advances the Culture of Death.
I, based upon the abortion issue alone, refuse to support the Democratic Party.
But the Republican Party, in regard to abortion, not to mention additional ways, also advances the Culture of Death.
Beginning with President Trump, one Republican after another pretends to be anti-abortion.
But beginning with President Trump, one Republican after another has declared that he or she supports abortion in regard to cases of rape, incest, and the mother's health.
Beginning with President Trump, one Republican after another supports the killing of any unborn baby who was conceived via rape, incest...as well as when the mother's health is in jeopardy supposedly.
As I am pro-life, I refuse to support the Culture of Death Republican Party. As I am pro-life, I refuse to support the Culture of Death Democratic Party.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Pro-life third-party candidate Brian Carroll squared-off with other third-party presidential candidates in a debate Thursday evening in Denver, with much of the discourse focusing around the difficulties that third-parties often face in gaining traction in U.S. presidential races, as well as issues surrounding education, surveillance, and drug policy.
Carroll is the presidential nominee of the American Solidarity Party, a third-party founded in 2011 and based largely on Catholic social teaching.
Carroll, an evangelical Christian and a retired history teacher from California, told CNA ahead of the debate that in his view, many Christians prioritize politics over faith, looking for a political messiah in the major parties instead of looking to Christ as savior.
PJK, Scalia and Thomas are not really swing votes although they have been known to take opposing sides.
The attraction of many Catholics to the Democrat Party is three-fold: tradition and family history, the support for attractive sins, such as divorce, homosexuality, and abortion, and along with that the replacement of God as the source of solace and help with government programs. So many modern Catholics get their ethics, watered down, distorted, and misrepresented from their parish on the rare occasion but can actually make the platitudes happen through their political precinct. Government has become, for them, a much more effective god without the need to accept suffering as a necessity.
PJK :
"The Democratic Party ardently backs legal access to abortion, but it is entirely in line with the Catholic Church on every other violation of life, human integrity and dignity. Plus, under Democratic presidents the abortion rate declines."
That is false. It is also the old tiresome seamless garment argument again. Vast sums are spent on social programs no matter what party is in power. With a little research anyone can find this out. Even so, abortion is such an evil that it can't be balanced out against anything else. It not only ends the life of a human being, but profoundly affects the woman who procures one and who is then very much in need of our prayers and help.
The writer you quote also didn't mention Democrat's support for embryonic stem cell research and euthanasia. He or she also neglected to mention the Obama administration forcing groups such as the Little Sisters of the Poor to pay for their employees birth control(including chemical abortifacients). As far as abortion rates declining under Democrat presidents, if that were true, why does Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion provider in the United States invariably support the Democrat candidate?
Religious Freedom
Under President Trump, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services issued a new rule with an updated religious exemption that protected religious nonprofit organizations such as the Little Sisters of the Poor. In 2017 a Federal judge issued an injunction against the rule, but just this year, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services had the authority under the ACA to allow the religious and moral exemptions. The effect of this ruling was that the Little Sisters of the Poor did not have to provide contraception nor abortion coverage in their employees' health plans.
President Trump reinstated the Mexico City Policy.
The Mexico City policy is a U.S. government policy that has requires foreign non-governmental organizations to certify that they will not "perform or actively promote abortion as a method of family planning" with non-U.S. funds as a condition for receiving U.S. global family planning assistance and, as of January 23, 2017, any other U.S. global health assistance, including U.S. global HIV and maternal and child health (MCH) assistance.
Joe Biden has stated that if elected he will suspend the Mexico City policy.
Republican presidents have been disappointed in some of the justices they have nominated and who eventually took a seat on the Court.
As far as Ronald Reagan signing abortion legislation in California into law,he later came to regret it and was opposed to abortion through out the rest of his political career.
What those such as Mark Thomas fail to recognize is the a cup half full is better than an empty one, and that to save even one life is better than the alternative.
EWTN has a very good voter's guide free on their website. Look at the platforms. Vote for the platform that best fits the Catholic view. You don't have to like the candidate, vote for what the candidate stands for. A vote for a 3rd party candidate is is throw away vote. It is statistically impossible for a 3rd party candidate to win in this election. I hope that changes in the future, but in the meantime, a house divided will fall. Please think twice before throwing away your vote.
Mark Thomas' ideological "high ground" sounds nice on paper, but in the real world, we have a RESPONSIBILITY to do the best we can in a voting situation. Voting for oblivion-bound 3rd party candidates makes for great conversation at cocktail parties, but it also guarantees the election of bad candidates. Sometimes we have to choose the lesser of two evils. Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush both "claimed" to be pro-life and did jack. At least Donald Trump has the guts to take on Planned Parenthood. He also doesn't dance around the subjects like other "pro-life" candidates usually do. He meets it head-on. If you want to waste your vote on a losertarian candidate, go ahead, but you will answer for the waste when you could have done something to help curtail the bloodbath.
The "culture of death" in the Republican party? Oh what a joke....
The GOP platform called for a constitutional ban on abortions as far back as the 1970s. No, that is not a realistic stance (getting a constitutional amendment through on any issue is next to impossible---how do you get two-thirds of Congress and three-fourths of states to agree on anything?). But at least it sends a message that our current abortion on demand culture is wrong (as tens of millions more abortions since then should show). Yes, Trump hardly ever goes to church and has a checkered marriage history, but at least he supports the idea of Christians being able to live their faith without interference from the state. Like just maybe the Little Sisters of the Poor should not have to purchase contraceptive coverage? I mean, really? Any evidence the Democrats want to side with Christians holding traditional values?
As for rape, incest and life of the mother, voters have to make prudential judgements when looking at candidates. Say you had 3 choices---the 100 percent pro-abortion Democratic candidate, the Republican opposed to abortion except for the usual 3 exceptions, or the independent candidate who supports a ban on all abortions. So what should you do? Well, the independent candidate not only is likely to lose, but in the process could cost the "3 exceptions" Republican to lose to the 100 percent pro-abortion Democrat. Or what it there is no independent candidate and you have the 2 candidates who are not perfect on abortion from the Church standpoint, what are you going to do? Sit it out because there is no perfect candidate? I guess in a similar tone, Georgia legislators should have voted against the heartbeat legislation because it was not perfect, allowing abortions up to 6 weeks and with the usual exceptions. As the old line goes, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Hey, MT,
Archbishop Nauman is in union with Pope Francis, so you are now denying his teaching authority and what he is saying about President Trump?
I appreciate what people have written above.
Anonymous @9.28am wrote :
The court SHOULD simply overturn Roe which was pure legislation anyway.....and let the states figure out what to do with the issue.
What I’d like to know (and what I intend to read up on) are the reasons WHY the Supreme Court has not overturned Roe v Wade over the past 47 years; and if the Supreme Court was not to overturn Roe for the next 147 years what would be the most likely reasons for that ?
By the way, in early retirement I now have an opportunity to complete university courses that I never had as a young man.
What a philosophy lecturer said yesterday may amuse some here:
“I am not sure which group of people in the world is most in denial of the basic facts of biology and has the highest level of narcissistic certainty? American fundamentalist Protestant Christians or American intersectional feminists ?”
This lecturer also compared phrenologists to gender studies “scholars” :
“Phrenologists used to believe that by measuring bumps on a person’s head one could predict mental, emotional and psychological traits. Most gender studies “scholars” are as stupid and crazy as that in thinking they can have so much detailed, certain knowledge of any individual’s mental and psychological traits based solely on whether an individual is male or female, black or white, or straight or gay.”
PJK.
I applaud those who vote for pro-life, third-party candidates. I refuse to throwaway my vote on the corrupt, Culture of Death, Republican, and Democratic parties.
Should others wish to perpetuate America's awful two-party political system...dreadful, pro-abortion, warmongering, Culture of Death Republican and Democratic parties...then so be it.
But said folks throwaway their votes.
As Catholic News Agency reported on October 10, 2020 A.D:
Conversely, Pro-life Brian Carrol, for example, presidential candidate of the American Solidarity Party, provides an opportunity for pro-lifers to vote their consciences, rather than choosing between “the lesser of two evils.”
Carroll noted that when you vote for "something that you don't want and you win, have you really won? I don't think so."
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Not as holy as thou said..."Mark Thomas' ideological "high ground" sounds nice on paper, but in the real world, we have a RESPONSIBILITY to do the best we can in a voting situation."If you want to waste your vote on a losertarian candidate, go ahead, but you will answer for the waste when you could have done something to help curtail the bloodbath."
Should you, as well as additional folks, wish to waste votes on pro-abortion President Trump, or pro-abortion Joe Biden, then so be it.
The abortion bloodbath will continue as long we reelect pro-abortion President Trump, as well one pro-abortion Republican after another.
The abortion bloodbath will continue as long we elect pro-abortion Joe Biden as well one pro-abortion Democrat after another.
I do not wish to perpetuate abortion in America. Therefore, I refuse to vote for President Trump. The same applies to Joe Biden.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Victor, who has posted many comments to Father McDonald's blog, informed me recently of the pro-life American Solidarity Party.
Here is a recent Catholic News Agency article on said political party, as well Brian Carroll, the American Solidarity Party's presidential candidate.
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/american-solidarity-partys-brian-carroll-squares-off-in-third-party-debate-16676
The American Solidarity Party was "founded in 2011 and based largely on Catholic social teaching."
Here is the party's platform: https://solidarity-party.org/about-us/platform/
Here is a First Things favorable article on the American Solidarity Party:
https://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2016/07/the-politics-of-solidarity-a-case-for-the-american-solidarity-party
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Why are a number of people on this blog unable to disagree with the views of Mark Thomas and Fr K without also insulting them? Don’t you think Mark and Fr K deserve some respect as individuals and fellow Catholics and as people who have a love and loyalty for the Church?
Mark Thomas,
So you are denying Archbishop Nauman's position who is in union with Pope Francis? Please respond. I would love to see your sophomoric analysis
Mark Thomas said..."I applaud those who vote for pro-life, third-party candidates. I refuse to throwaway my vote on the corrupt, Culture of Death, Republican, and Democratic parties."
Mark, to take your view to its logical conclusion, by voting for the American Solidarity Party, you are voting for the corrupt culture of death.
The American Solidarity Party is part of the corrupt culture of death. They are not against the mortal sin of artificial contraception and are thus as anti-life as the other parties.
Brian Carroll belongs to the Evangelical Covenant Church. Contact them and ask them what their stance on artificial contraception is, and you will see that your viewpoint on this issue holds no water. (773) 784-3000, Chicago. They are not opposed to contraception, and they are not opposed, in some instances, to abortion.
Humanae Vitae #14: "Similarly excluded is any action which either before, at the moment of, or after sexual intercourse, is specifically intended to prevent procreation, whether as an end or as a means."
By voting for the ASP, you would be voting for an organization that would allow contraceptives to be sold and would thus be voting against the teachings of Humanae Vitae, in other words, anti-life.
Anonymous at 3:16,
You must be new here. Anonymous K routinely denigrates others who post here with whom he disagrees and attacks orthodox Catholics like Sister Bryne because she does not support the Abortion Party.
MT is a special case. He runs in here with tedious non sequiturs and NEVER responds to legitimate challenges to his statements. He is a papalotor which is extremely irritating.
Boy, things get stranger and stranger on this question. Now DJR says the virtually unknown American Solidarity party is anti-life. One would be supporting the culture of death (?). Well, I guess there is no party or no candidate to vote for. I guess DJR, he or she, is one of those "all or nothing" voters. Either 100 percent my way or you are anti-life.
Bringing up contraception is absurd. There is never going to be a ban on that. A political party that did would be laughed off the stage. It is about as ridiculous as Kelly Loeffler, appointed to the Senate from Georgia, saying that Republican rival Doug Collins is one of the most liberal Republicans in Congress. Gee, I feel like I am in the "twilight zone."
Here is a message for corrupt catholic priests and bishop from a real American:
"If you are liberal and can’t stand Trump and can’t possibly fathom why anyone would vote for him, let me fill you in. We can’t stand you. You’ve done everything in your power by trying to destroy this country by tearing down our police, our borders, our history, systematically destroying our schools and brainwashing our kids into thinking socialism is the answer to everything. Demonizing religion and faith and glorifying abortion, violence and thug culture. And calling us racists…
We are voting for Trump because of you!"
And we will no longer pay and support corrupt Catholic clergy. Maybe you can become baristas at StarBucks, your true spiritual home!
I would also add that MT has an almost puerile compulsion to always have the last word, which gets rather tedious along with his psuedo-pious "Pax" sign-offs. Fr. K probably knows what a lot of folks think about him. MT is oblivious to the point where no matter WHAT he posts, no one takes him seriously any more.
Anonymous said..."Boy, things get stranger and stranger on this question. Now DJR says the virtually unknown American Solidarity party is anti-life."
Anonymous, I was merely pointing out the fallacy in MT's reasoning to show the irrational nature of what he asserted.
According to MT, the Republican Party is anti-life. If the Republican party is anti-life, the ASP must also be considered anti-life. The ASP is not opposed to contraception and would allow it everywhere if brought to power; therefore, they are also "anti-life" in MT's worldview. Yet, he's going to vote for the ASP candidate.
100% illogical.
Not as holy as thou said..."MT is oblivious to the point where no matter WHAT he posts, no one takes him seriously any more."
No way!
Day after day here, one person after another sings my praises. They would run me for President...if they had the time.
But they are very busy...discussing their favorite type of Pop Tart (blueberry, strawberry, etc.)...or favorite episode of Gilligan's Island.22
I also am taken seriously away from here.
Why just yesterday, my neighbor's pit bull — Jowls — wandered into my backyard. Jowls looked at me. He followed me around my yard. Jowls viewed me with tremendous awe and respect. Jowls, without question, had taken me seriously.
Okay...so I had waved a ham sandwich in front of him...but still.
Finally, just last week, Father McDonald had taken a survey on his blog. The question:
"Which do you take seriously...tree stumps, tadpoles, or Mark Thomas?"
I finished fourth.
Curly of the Three Stooges received a slew of last-minute write-in votes. He knocked me off the list.
Move over President Trump. I was victimized by write-in balloting voter fraud!
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Sad.
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