Excellent and courageous article by a lay Catholic posted by The Deacon’s Bench:
A CALL TO AMERICA’S BISHOPS IN A TIME OF PANDEMIC: ‘THIS SHOULD BE THEIR FINEST HOUR’
My friend Dr. Gerard Nadal, a microbiologist in New York City, has some thoughts on how the church is handling the present crisis — and what can and cannot be done sacramentally.
From The Angelus:
What about the sacraments of anointing and the distribution of the viaticum?It makes sense medically, that priests be able to suitably gown, glove, and mask and stand at the same bedside, just as my wife and other medical professionals do.My wife [a nurse] puts her life — and our children’s and mine by extension — on the line each and every night. A priest’s contact with patients is far less extensive. Certainly our younger priests are in a better position from a health perspective to perform this vital ministry than their older brother priests. It certainly wouldn’t be advisable for all priests, but this ministry should be permissible for priests who wish to do so on a voluntary basis.What America’s bishops cannot afford to do right now is retreat and leave the laity to fend for themselves. Televised Mass and spiritual communion are fine in a time like this, as there is simply no safe way to do Mass and Communion. They spare the congregation and clergy from massive transmission of contagion.But telling the laity that confession in your bedroom suffices in time of crisis, and denying the anointing of the sick seems, to this faithful layman, to run the risk of institutional suicide. It is an act of abandonment, and not prudence.So far, Catholic bishops in this country have shown themselves to be thoughtful and vigilant in their concern for the faithful. But this is also the time for fortitude, and when it comes to completely shutting the door to the possibility of sacramental confession and the anointing of the sick, as a seasoned professor of microbiology I respectfully invite them to reconsider.This pandemic gives our bishops an opportunity to redeem a multitude of past failings by courageously and heroically putting it all on the line for the people at a time when the people need the Church the most.The sight of bishops in the hospitals anointing the dying, hearing confessions, ministering to the medical personnel, putting their own lives on the line — this is an opportunity that they simply cannot let pass by.This should be their finest hour. The alternative is unthinkable.
There’s much more food for thought. Read it all.
38 comments:
Well we know one priest who haunts us here with his nonsense
And, Allan, you've kind of painted yourself into a Col. Nathan Jessup ("A Few Good Men") corner here.
On the one hand, you claim that by following the CDC guidelines you are putting no one, including yourself, at risk. Surely no good pastor would encourage people to engage in life-threatening activity. I wouldn't, you wouldn't.
But on the other hand, you claim that by holding your drive-by Benediction and sprinkling, you are flying into the face of the enemy, exhibiting, with your "officers," not cowardice, but maytyr-like bravery. You and they are exhibiting heroic, sacrificial altruism, by grabbing the bull by the horns and running, nay, racing into the maw of all that is terrifying and dangerous.
But, as Lt. Daniel Kaffee notes in the movie, you can't have both.
Allan, is it dangerous to your parishioners, to you, to your "officers?" If so, why do you continue?
If it is not dangerous, as you have maintained all along, how can you paint yourself a brave, heroic, martyrdom-seeking, and self-sacrificing?
"Then why two orders, Colonel?"
..."You honor, I'd like to ask for a recess."
From today’s gospel reading:
Reclining at table with his disciples, Jesus was deeply troubled and testified,
“Amen, amen, I say to you, one of you will betray me.” John 13:21
In our present time, the Church has many Judas betrayers in her inner circle who influence many around them. We must carry on despite this ongoing confusion in our midst (you know who is the author of confusion). Lord have mercy, Christ have mercy, Lord have mercy.
It would appear that for some, they will help to make it the Church's finest hour. For others, they will withdrawal. Life is life. At times, some are compelled to stand up and live it relative to their circumstances. I struggle with the parallel between this life that we are trying to live and a movie...unless the movie allows for choosing one's own ending.
FRMJK, I am the Anon who posted at 12:44. I am also Anon 9:14 from yesterday. You can respond to me as “Anon12”. IF you wish to spew your venom (since you apparently have nothing better to do with your time), hit me rather than FRAJM who is trying his best to pastor his church. He doesn’t need your venom, let alone the years of filial non-support. God bless you in this Holy Week.
We must all use this time for self-examination. Lord have mercy.
Anon 12 - When Fr. McDonald makes assertions that call for response or correction, I will direct those toward him.
Ok, I’m a little less angry than I was earlier.
Folks, I worked years in Internal Medicine, with a year in Infectious Disease when HIV was a “novel” virus AND no hope of a cure for fulminant AIDS. My department worked closely with Dr. Fauci when he was head of the CDC in Atlanta, next door to us.
I can offer the following in good conscience: in the early stage of a novel virus, the best we have is reasoned conjecture, crisis-gathering of evolving ongoing data, and consequent trial-and error suppositions/recommendations by hardworking scientists. Then, IN HINDSIGHT, have better vision with a fuller picture of cause, effect, prevention tactics, treatment options and future prognosis. Science never has been or ever will be perfect. Hypotheses are regularly disproven.
Panic never serves ANY good purpose. There is a pandemic right now of panic. This novel virus is worse than any we’ve had in 100 years. I understand this—most of my AIDS patients were terrified and panic was common. In fact, the most commonly prescribed medication then was an anti-anxiety drug while we closely monitored CD4 counts to titrate what meds we had available (the antiretrovirals were not yet known). Most of our patients died.
As yet, we have no blood test to monitor for progression of COVID19, let alone confirmed treatment medications. We can only follow and treat symptoms once a victim shows an initial positive Dx test.
Again, panic NEVER serves any good purpose. Studies have shown that people who pray, people who stay positive have the best success in fighting deadly cancers. Right now, we need all the positive support we can get. We need prayer. Our priests are our spiritual doctors in our battlefield churches. Please, holy priests, we are depending on you. Help us fight this war; do not fight each other.
We WILL get there; we will win this war. God bless.
Father Allan,
Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory to Him forever. I would like to share with you two situations that a priest friend apprised me of.
In one Diocese the Bishop had to order his priests to say masses everyday. Part of the Bishop's talk was that how the "old" priests before the Council celebrated mass everyday, yet, the Bishop noted we have priests who only celebrate on the weekends, and now not at all. The Bishop said enough excuses and time to do your job, even if no laity are present.
The other Bishop was angry to discover that priests were collecting salaries but not saying the Divine Liturgy. So, he ordered all priests who are able to say the Divine Liturgy, prove that they have done so by video or live streaming, or otherwise, they are not to be paid.
It is clear to me that these two Bishops do not give a tub of beans for that impious man, Massimo Faggioli. I saw the disgusting tweet and God forgive him for his sacrilegious behavior.
Father Mike, Father Allan might be inconsistent, but who cares!? What I see with Father Allan is a priest doing his best for his flock. Anyways, the good news for you is that many of us who haunt this website pray for you, for you are a priest forever, according to the order of Melchizedek.
A holy, healthy and happy Easter to Father Allan and Father Mike.
I have been shocked in recent days to learn that in many places, bishops are mandating the following:
- that churches be closed and locked;
- no confessions;
- no Holy Communion for anyone;
- the anointing be denied except when near death.
My archbishop has not done anything so draconian. We are urged to keep churches open and to hear confessions, but with cautions about distancing and use of disinfectants. I have not been told I may not administer Holy Communion outside of Mass or when or how to anoint anyone; that has been left to my judgment. Just on Saturday I was called to the hospital to anoint two patients with Covid; the protocols were significant, and I followed them scrupulously. (And I realized, afterward, that I would do better not to use a ritual book at all, but simply have a printed sheet of paper with those prayers I have not memorized, and dispose of that each time. Thus shall I do. The book I used is in a plastic bag, and I will keep it isolated for a few more days so any residual virus can perish.)
We must not abandon God's people! People were surprised that I would come and anoint those patients, but of course! That is why I became a priest.
Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh said...
Anon 12 - When Fr. McDonald makes assertions that call for response or correction, I will direct those toward him.
LOL - you make erroneous statements all the time and are still stuck on old "Tried and Failed." Give it a rest. You are beyond tedious, and as someone else suggested, go do something useful. It might be a refreshing experience!
Yes, Father Fox. That is what is going on here and has spurned the present animosity of FRMJK. He took issue with FRAJM who had the audacity to offer drive-through blessing of parishioners IN THEIR CARS after his privately-celebrated Sunday Holy Mass, then took issue when FRAJM lamented not being allowed to visit and anoint the sick and dying,
Thank you for saying: “We must not abandon God’s people!...That is why I became a priest.” You’re one of the good ones—a true warrior. Thank you.
Anon12. (Posted here at 2:56 and forgot to sign it)
Father Fox,
You, Father McDonald, and my young pastor have had a tremendous effect on my remaining a Catholic. Many priests (like one snark monster who posts here) and bishops are modern day mountebanks and bring, little or no value, to the Faithful. As you won't be forgotten for your efforts during this time, we will NEVER forget them for their lack of spiritual leadership. I hope they save their money, they're going to need it.
God Bless You!
I've been rereading Fr. MJK's response and promise of response/correction. The response, to me, seems to lead us to keep going in circles. I have no ideal what to add here that won't keep the circle from spinning. Am I alone? It's like being in two different churches. One that I recognize - the other, I don't.
ByzRC,
Ignore Kavanaugh. He's a snarky, nasty clericalism on steroids. He is a PINO (Priest in Name Only)
Saying that people Staying At Home is a better idea than going out and about IN THEIR CARS is a better idea, saying that encouraging people to leave their homes is not a good idea, reminding everyone who reads this blog that the numbers of those infected/hospitalized/dead due to the coronavirus continues to rise because people have not self-isolated, saying that those of us who are not willing to endanger the health and well being of people in hospitals and nursing homes are "abandoning" the people, saying that those of us who are maintaining social distance are not cowards, is not "animosity.
I have NO hostility toward Fr. McDonald as he has previously attested on the very blog.
Let's visit nursing homes!
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/10-patients-same-georgia-nursing-home-die-coronavirus/TOPNSUJ32JHXJKYTDYNW2ELVLU/
10 patients at the same Georgia nursing home die of coronavirus
Of the ten residents (they're not strictly speaking patients) of the nursing home who died of, or with, coronavirus (there's a subtle but important distinction when we're talking about very old people) how many were Catholics who were denied the sacraments of the Church and the last rites?
Here in the UK the lock-down means that priests are prohibited by law from administering to the dying. A couple of days ago on BBC radio an 'expert' was specifically asked by the interviewer about the plight of Catholics (he didn't mention other denominations). She suggested that they could receive said sacraments and rites via video link.
Her expertise obviously did not extend to sacramental theology.
"Of the ten residents (they're not strictly speaking patients) of the nursing home who died of, or with, coronavirus (there's a subtle but important distinction when we're talking about very old people) how many were Catholics who were denied the sacraments of the Church and the last rites?"
The virus doesn't discriminate based on which denomination a person belongs to, so "how many were Catholics" isn't germane.
A person who enters a nursing home or hospital puts everyone - Catholic, Jew, Muslim,Atheist, Muslim - at risk. That person also risks passing the infection to the medical staff. That person also risks getting infected him or herself.
FrMJK stop being stupid. We are speaking of ministering to people who are dying and taking the normal precautions in doing so. There is a risk in everything and you know it. Catholics have a right to the Sacraments when they are dying, especially those who may have been away from the Church. If a priest or bishop is available, he should go to see the person wearing the gear needed to protect himself and others he may come into contact with.
Doctors and nurses and other medical workers do this daily and risk infecting you daily if they come near you and more importantly than you, their spouses, children, elderly parents and friends. Some self quarantine in RVS parked in their drive way.
With this comment of yours, any others of this nature will be deleted. Your comments are foolish coming from a priest in a pandemic who should sacrifice himself for the spiritual health of his parishioners when called to go hear confessions, anoint and offer other Last Rite prayers to them either at home or an institutional setting.
Bee here:
I heard in conversation (so I don't know how true it is) with the church sewing ladies (before we were suspended from sewing together) that during the Bubonic plague the good and holy priests went into homes to assist the sick and dying, especially those who had been abandoned by their families, and so eventually caught the disease and died. And the not so holy priests, (whose god is their own self), left the worst affected areas to places of less disease and were spared. And so after the worst years of the plague, the Church was filled with self-serving and lukewarm priests.
We never know what test God is going to send us. We often go around thinking we are very good people, and if God tested our Faith, we'd pass with flying colors, and if we had lived in Jesus' time, we would never have shouted "Crucify him!" or run away when He was arrested...but when the test comes in our lives it comes within our own context, and it shows us for what we really are.
This is a time of winnowing the wheat from the chaff.
God bless.
Bee
Father Kavanaugh said:
A person who enters a nursing home or hospital puts everyone - Catholic, Jew, Muslim,Atheist, Muslim - at risk. That person also risks passing the infection to the medical staff. That person also risks getting infected him or herself.
By that logic, then no one at all should approach patients in nursing homes or hospitals, including care-givers, because they certainly are "a person" as defined by Father Kavanaugh. He unwittingly declares that NO ONE should care for them; they must be left to fend for themselves.
Of course, he doesn't actually believe that; but such is the meaning of his sweeping declaration. Perhaps try again, Father?
FYI, when I visited the hospital myself, I followed all protocols the hospital staff asked of me. I was cossetted up with all they gave me. Oh, and by the way, I was visiting people positive with Covid, so obviously I wasn't risking infecting them. Yes, I took some risk myself, but I think that's what priests -- like other care givers -- must be prepared to do, or else we leave them to die.
Father McDonald, amen.
TBTG and thank you, Father.
Faith and science need not be at war with each other.
Anon 12
Denying the need for people to receive the Sacraments is essentially saying that the Faith is not true. It stands to reason that a "priest" who does not believe the Faith is not going to risk his health to minister for that Faith.
The problem is one of unbelief, as it every shall be.
Martin - The medical staff has to be there. I am not, and no one is, suggesting they be left to fend for themselves.
It was PLAIN that when I said "no one should enter" I was referring to non-essential people such as clergy.
Visit them or leave them to die is a false equivalence - Try again, Martin?
Thank you Marc and FrMJK's comment was posted at the same time as yours so neither of you had the benefit of seeing the other's. And you are exactly right about what you right, for anyone to say that a Catholic priest or bishop is non-essential to a Roman Catholic who is dying and that person or a relative expects the priest or bishop to offer the Last Sacraments and other Last Rites to that person, only to have the bishop or priest say that he is non-essential, that priest or bishop is a heretic and like Judas, an apostate rather than an apostle.
And FrMJK, if you can't refer to priests and bishops by their title, you comments in the future will not be posted.
"about what you write" before FrMJK makes a snark about that.
We cannot be other than thankful for the priests who are willing to administer the sacraments to the sick and dying under these and other circumstances. While I hope not to be the beneficiary of such a visit, it's comforting to know the willingness is there, for some, should it become necessary.
As I believe we've discussed before on this blog, there, unofficially, are two churches. Given our current set of circumstance, I think we are more easily able to see where relevance will remain and where irrelevance will take over. We can talk in endless circles as to why the aforementioned is false but, when one compares action to inaction, how can one not come to this conclusion?
Kavanaugh,
"non-essential people such as clergy."
Based on your musings here, I would say you are non-essential at all times.
"It was PLAIN that when I said "no one should enter" I was referring to non-essential people such as clergy."
Fr. MJK - What if the person who is sick and perhaps dying is someone who's spiritual care is your responsibility?
I'm not trying to be snarky - just trying to understand. In the east, "physician of souls and bodies" has emphasis but, without the priest/intercessor, how can the divine physician of souls and bodies provide healing?
ByzRC,
Kavanaugh is non-essential, he said so himself
Byz - The vast majority of Catholics who die do not have the ministry of a priest at the time of death or, in many cases, even near the time of death. Like Fr. McDonald, I get calls telling me "Mama has died," and regret that, despite the encouragement we give, no one calls the priest along the way.
From time to time I put a reminder in the bulletin with this little poem:
"The doctor went to see him,
But the pastor did not go.
The doctor had been sent for,
But the pastor didn't know."
The doctor got rewarded with a handsome little check,
But the pastor, for not knowing, simply got it in the neck."
I have, in 35 years, been present at the moment a person expired maybe 3 times. One was my mother. The other two were patients in the hospital, and my presence there was happenstance and Providential. On the other hand I have anointed and buried hundreds.
The Divine Physician does not require the presence of a priest to provide healing. We are the ones who need the symbols of the oil and the laying on of hands and the prayers. Because I know that I will not be able to be present when each and every member of my parish, or even a significant number of them, comes to the moment of death, I hope that what I do and say along the way fulfills, to a large degree, my responsibility for their care. We are, beginning with Baptism, helping to prepare a person for a happy death. "You have presented your child to the Church for Baptism. You are giving this child to the Church so that we may teach him/her to die well" is a phrase I used in Baptism prep classes. It startles and gets the parents' attention - then I explain.
If a priest thinks he absolutely MUST be present when a parishioner is dying, he will never leave his parish for any reason - assisting in other parishes, going on vacation, attending retreats or conferences.
Under normal circumstances I go immediately when called because someone is nearing death or, as is far more often the case, someone has died.
But these are not normal times by any stretch. Give the circumstances we have, when non-essential people come and go from nursing homes or hospitals, the chances of causing harm are increased.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, the stories of the "heroic" clergy who went into the hospitals, the plague-ridden neighborhoods, the asylums where the dying were warehoused most often didn't know that their presence there put themselves in danger and, should they become infected, put in danger anyone else they subsequently encountered.
We know now what the reality is and should act accordingly.
A priest is more essential for a dying person -- Catholic or otherwise -- than any medical personnel.
Thank God for all of our faithful Catholic priests!
Father Kavanaugh:
No, it wasn't "PLAIN" (sic) from your comment, which is why I urged you to try again.
I also find it terribly sad that you deem the ministry of a priest to someone who is facing death "non-essential." You do realize, don't you, that many of those who are in the hospital feel very differently? Or were you under the impression that priests are forcing themselves on patients who don't want the priest there?
And, after all, some of those who are visited may have unconfessed mortal sin, and may need the presence of a priest to help them make a good confession and more fundamentally, make the necessary conversion. They may have a great debt of temporal punishment, and the Apostolic Pardon will be of immense value to them. How can you call all that "non-essential"?
And, I will save you the trouble of pointing out that someone who cannot have a priest visit can nevertheless receive sanctifying grace through a sincere confession of sins to God; that such a person can be healed, even miraculously, without the anointing of the sick; and yes, such a person may well receive from God the same release from Purgatory that comes with a plenary indulgence.
And yet, by that logic, we don't need priests -- at all. We don't need any sacraments -- at all. People who never meet a priest, who never receive any sacraments, can be saved; so we don't need the Church -- at all!
But of course, that's not the divine plan -- at all.
If I have reason to think my going will bring physical harm to a patient, I will not go. But God have mercy on me if I fail to go for fear for myself.
Oh, and I might add that when I visited the hospital last week, the medical personnel were very happy to see me and were very grateful for my encouragement. They need spiritual consolation too!
And if they bar the way, I'm not going to knock them down. But I will be politely insistent.
I remember a time I was called out around 2 or 3 in the morning, for a woman undergoing heart surgery. The medical personnel were not eager to have me come into the operating room, and I understand. I waited; but I did speak up at one point, because the gathered family was desperate to have me go anoint the woman. Eventually they suited me up and I anointed her outstretched hand as she lay on the operating table. As it turned out, she never woke up. The family was so grateful for long after that I went to bat for them.
Fr. MJK -
Thank you for your thoughtful answer. I've heard priest friends mention calls they had received to administer last rites/extreme unction to someone who already had passed. Prior to my father's passing, the hospital's Catholic Chaplain fortunately got to my him without me having to ask. A priest wasn't present for his actual passing - and the unreasonableness of such an expectation aside - to me, the priest on behalf of the Church had already done what was necessary.
Anyhow, as the sacraments are for the living, hopefully, current events have reminded people of this so they can better prepare themselves for the happy death that most would likely prefer.
Father Kavanaugh:
I find it terribly sad that you deem the ministry of a priest to someone who is facing death "non-essential." You do realize, don't you, that many of those who are in the hospital feel very differently? Or were you under the impression that priests are forcing themselves on patients who don't want the priest there?
And, after all, some of those who are visited may have unconfessed mortal sin, and may need the presence of a priest to help them make a good confession and more fundamentally, make the necessary conversion. They may have a great debt of temporal punishment, and the Apostolic Pardon will be of immense value to them. How can you call all that "non-essential"?
Yes, someone who cannot have a priest visit can nevertheless receive sanctifying grace through a sincere confession of sins to God; that such a person can be healed, even miraculously, without the anointing of the sick; and yes, such a person may well receive from God the same release from Purgatory that comes with a plenary indulgence.
And yet, by your logic, we don't need priests -- at all. We don't need any sacraments -- at all. People who never meet a priest, who never receive any sacraments, can be saved; so we don't need the Church -- at all!
But of course, that's not the divine plan -- at all.
If I have reason to think my going will bring physical harm to a patient, I will not go. But God have mercy on me if I fail to go for fear for myself.
Oh, and I might add that when I visited the hospital last week, the medical personnel were very happy to see me and were very grateful for my encouragement. They need spiritual consolation too!
And if they bar the way, I'm not going to knock them down. But I will be politely insistent.
I remember a time I was called out around 2 or 3 in the morning, for a woman undergoing heart surgery. The medical personnel were not eager to have me come into the operating room, and I understand. I waited; but I did speak up at one point, because the gathered family was desperate to have me go anoint the woman. Eventually they suited me up and I anointed her outstretched hand as she lay on the operating table. As it turned out, she never woke up. The family was so grateful for long after that I went to bat for them.
Fr. Fox, again and again, thank you.
Father Fox
Very beautiful testimony. Most priests have a vocation and see themselves as servants of the Kingdom while others see themselves as bureaucrats that serve the secular world and obey its call.
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