One of the things modern liturgical theologians despise is a strong Ministerial Priesthood, (Holy Orders) where the exclusively male priest can "confect" the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in a private way to the exclusion of the laity and the various ministries proposed for them to make sure they are involved in a communitarian way and are seen as necessary for the Holy Meal to be experienced properly.
That house of cards has collapsed over night and all God has left us with is priests celebrating Mass privately or non publicly and live streaming it to the laity and others.
And the liturgists and progressive theologians, are doing what the young man below does:
That house of cards has collapsed over night and all God has left us with is priests celebrating Mass privately or non publicly and live streaming it to the laity and others.
And the liturgists and progressive theologians, are doing what the young man below does:
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"progressives" are the least aware folks around and totalitarian to boot! But they will insist when things get back to normal that we hold hands and slurp from the Chalice because "it is so meaningful!" Remember that tired phrase from the 1960s?
Augmenting your "despise" list is the presumption that re-enchantment must mean 1800s or, 1950s, lace everywhere, veils, 15 ft long cappa magnas baroque and on, and on and on. What you've modeled, Fr. McDonald captures the essence of the Catholic experience in an organic evolutionary way. To me, it is a way forward to save the Church's soul.
AMEN, and thanks to you and all good priests out there who are stepping up to the plate in the best and only ways they can.
Hoping “Bob” doesn’t take offense with this...
Anon JDJ
Bee here:
As we watch this latest world crises unfold, and it is truly global, it is interesting to reflect on some aspects of the world we have created for ourselves that are false and delusional and fall apart when reality hits.
It seems when we get too big for our britches, God allows something to shock us into reality. And even though the event is often painful and horribly tragic to us, it is, at its heart, merciful for Him to do so, because by the experience our eyes are opened to some aspect of reality we had been ignoring or denying.
I am seeing very many aspects of modern life being shaken to the core. Many parents are home with their kids, and acting for this time as educators, and primary authority. How healthy is that!! Our consumerist materialistic society is shaken and people are plunged into having to find value outside of buying and having things. And maybe most importantly, the illusion that death is remote has been blown to pieces. And when those who still believe it will not happen to them see someone they know die an untimely death, it will be too real to deny.
One can see the possibility of good coming out of all of this, for people to make decisions for the better. I pray the experience will allow people to see what is really important, and what is more true, and choose those things.
With regards to the Church and the Mass, (I am thinking this is probably impossible, but) I pray our Church leaders, especially the Pope, will realize that the Church has has drifted away from her core doctrine and praxis in the last 60 years and needs to get back to those things, the things Fr. McD often cites as needing to be restored. I am thinking it is impossible because not even the clerical sex abuse scandals being exposed for all to see caused them to repent. Not even empty pews has caused them to repent. It seems they are, excuse the expression, "hell bent" to continue on the path they have been on the last 60 years or so (or maybe it's more) until they destroy the Church.
I know it is often cited that Our Lady has promised "In the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph." I know eventually, perhaps after I have left this earthly plane, this will come to pass. But I can't help but think events such as the present day crises are allowed by God to prompt His people to turn away from their deadly pursuits and return to Him, or else there will be even bigger hell to pay in the future.
God bless.
Bee
Yes Father, your observations are spot-on, HOWEVER, the average Catholic in the pews is far more concerned about a possible suspension of the NFL season than they are about liturgical abuses. I have to agree with TJM: When this whole thing is over with, it will be back to business as usual. The unsustainable Novus Ordo Establishment is still in charge--for now. Our rightful liturgical patrimony as Catholics remains on hold and those of us here in South Georgia will still live in a liturgical wasteland indefinitely. Mass disappointment awaits.
I found this line interesting: "the exclusively male priest can "confect" the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in a private way to the exclusion of the laity.." Interestingly many priests have not excluded the laity, they installed cameras in the churches so that the laity could still be involved. I wonder how this would be handled in the pre-technical, pre-digital, pre-internet days? Would the bells be rung at the start of the mass, or its conclusion, or at some intermediate point such as the consecration?
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