These two videos, Changing Habits Part I and Part II were filmed in 1985. You can see how these radical religious sisters/nuns did so much damage to religious life and to the Church in general, the effects of which still plague many religious communities today. It is a different kind of abuse and the days of reckoning are taking place today as with other types of abuse in the Church spawned during this God-awful, smoke of Satan era.
This mentality turned parents off to sending their daughters to religious life as many thought all religious orders would become this ugly. These radical sisters destroyed religious life for all orders, even the ones that remained faithful and traditional. Could you imagine inviting a young, vibrant woman to consider this kind of life? What young woman would?
Keep in mind this documentary was made in 1985! You can see how these sisters really left the Catholic Church but didn't have the honesty or integrity to actually leave but to be subversive in trying to remake the Church in their own image:
Part I
Part II
MY FINAL COMMENT: This is true Gnosticism, ideological and downright evil. God has not blessed this movement in the Church as they are dying out rapidly. God has not blessed the Church either for this sick mentality. As we know, there was an investigation by Rome of the LCWR and its post-Catholic drivel, some of which in the modern day of today make what we see in these two videos look like ultra-orthodoxy! And yet these aging "old maids" have the audacity to challenge Rome and those who investigated them to uncover the godawful truth and bring it to the light. Thank God that the days of reckoning are here. But keep in mind, not all individual sisters or orders that belong to the LCWR actually embrace the post-Catholic positions of this elitist group of so-called leaders.
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Boy. Did anything good come out of Vatican 2? All it did was confuse and drive people a way. What good was it?
For an update on "Sister" Deborah Barrett:
http://www.zcoc.org/leadership/
From cloistered Carmelite to fill-in-the-blank... Whew, takes gnosticism to a different plane. A textbook case of where "ecumenism" can lead?
I had a "sister" in my last parish who belonged to the "community" shown at the end of the first video and beginning of the second. I knew she had a strange theology but did not realize she did not belong to a legitimate religious order until she was near death. I found one of her community members in our diocese and explained her plight and asked if she or other sisters could come to her bedside and pray with her, bringing comfort to one of "their own" sisters at the hour of need. The answer was a callous "no." For all the do-good, lovey-dovey malarkey they profess in helping those in need, they refused to put it into action for a fellow member of this fake community. My guess is that there was no glory in it, no way of "sticking it to the man" in offering comfort to the dying "sister." Pray for them all.
The Vatican even encourages secular priests to live in common with other clerics, and to cultivate a simple lifestyle (Code of Canon Law, canons 280 and 282). If this is encouraged for us, then surely religious should understand that apostolic practices such as these are required for them. If they just want to live individual lives, then they should join the Ladies of Charity or some other women's guild instead of a religious order.
I found these videos painful to watch. They remind me of the effects that we are still experiencing in religious life. My community has held on to many of the traditions and disciplines of our founders, but we have also made choices that have gone with the current tide. I am grateful that we have the choice to wear a veil, but wish we had maintained the veil as many other countries in my community.
We all know this goes much deeper than wearing or not wearing a habit, but the outward signs speak to the inner fidelity to simplicity and humility.
I have to say I have never felt unappreciated in the church. Unlike some I have never felt victimized by the male hierarchy. My experience has been that the church and the priests I have worked with are glad the sisters do what they do and generally support us. I am not naive to think this is the experience all have had.
I get more resistance and more criticism from sisters outside my community...that I am living in the past.
I am happy serving Christ in the poor and living in community with my sisters. I can not imagine myself living another life.
St Vincent told us we should consume ourselves in our service...at the end of the day we should filled with our experiences of Christ in the person of the poor. We come home to place the needs of the poor before Christ in prayer.
This vocation is blessing enough for me, and I am content to live it fully and hope to give back to Christ and His church all that I have been given
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ROFL!
Good find, Anon friend. It led me to the Sisters for Christian Community web-site. The SFCC is apparently an approved lay society, in which members "manifest their commitment to Christ in a distince [sic] response to Religious Life". I have a certain respect for this approach, since the members do not profess one way of life while living another.
All Catholics must be obedient to the true teachings of the Church, or they are schismatics and/or heretics.
CCC # 2089
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The Doctrine of the Faith, can be found in the "CATECHISM of the CATHOLIC CHURCH, Second Edition".
- - - - QUOTE: " ….the Catechism has raised throughout the world, even among non-Christians, and confirms its purpose of being presented as a full, complete exposition of Catholic doctrine, enabling everyone to know what the Church professes, celebrates , lives, and prays in her daily life. ” UNQUOTE - - - – Pope John Paul II (CCC pg xiv)
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The Catechism isn't infallible. For example, its teaching on capital punishment isn't even doctrine, but the pious opinion of one recent pope.
Aside from that, what's your point, anonymous?
Yes, FrJBS, I believe the Sisters of Christian community are a lay society. I do not think they fall unfder the canonical identity of a Society of apostolic Life. There are about 11 SoAL...the Daughters of Charity, Society of Jesus, Vincentian Fathers, Society of St Sulpice to name a few.
We have 19 Canons that direct our lives most of which refer back to our Constitutions. Religious communities have over 300 canons to follow.
The DC's make first a vow of service to the poor and the Evangelical councils in order to life out that service for one year. Each year we must renew these vows to remain in the community.
We could not and would not write our own vows as this would seem a personal and not a communal commitment.
I was taught by the Daughters of Charity,many are of them are good friends. Will the Sisters ever return to a habit with the veil? What about the prayer life,the book that they use for morning and evening prayer.Why not use the Christian Prayer? What about Sisters,older ones especially that HAVE to go along with the new ways?Look at the new orders,reformed orders,they are growing strong. They have habits,prayer,Mass in community and they work together in schools,and parishes.Daughters of Charity are not growing in the U.S. Could they look at these Sisters that are getting vocations and learn from them? I miss the Daughters of Charity! Wish they would return!
The Daughters of Charity decided to allow each province to determine the habit for their area. Many of our sisters in non-christian countries were unable to minister effectively. So, for example in Vietnam the sister wear pants and a traditional jacket for ministry, but when they go to the mother house or other countries they wear the western style blue dress and veil. In the USA he sisters wear a white shirt and blue skirt or blue dress. The veil is by choice. All of our younger members are choosing to wear it...there is no pressure wither way.
We are using the ICEL translation of Liturgy of the Hours with additions for Vincentian feast days. It has been approves for us to use...while i wish we were using the Christian Prayer.
We moring and evening prayer together most days and eat together every night. The older and younger sisters dont have to go along...decisions are made communially at appropriate levels.
The Daughters are like the church...one community...we are not like others with many diffrent configuration...all Daughters are the same in our common life style.
While we might not be "growing" we have not had an empty novitiate in the USA...world wide we are doing very well in Asia, Eastern Europe and Africa which is typical of most communities.
Don't count us out yet...we are still very strong in our community life and prayer life and our fidelity to the charism of St Vincent is very strong.
I love the Daughters of Charity.They taught me in school. They brought me into the church in the late 1960's. A very special sister,Sr.Agatha taught me so much about Our Lady and the desire to work with the poor and elderly. That was my work for many years.My prayer life is very Vincentian. I have used the D.C. office book,but I didn't like the pslams,I rather use Christian Prayer. But, I do use it for the Vincentian Feast days. How long have you been in vocation? Do you wear the habit and the veil? Do you ever wear the chaplet that the Sister's use to wear? Do you still make your morning and evening meditation together? Do you ever attend a Latin Mass?.....Do you ever feel that it is more social work than religious life? Do you know the prayer the Sisters said at 3pm? I still pray that prayer and the Presence of God prayer.I had many good times with the Sisters. I use to go to their House and pray with them. They taught me so much.Many of them are in Heaven now. I miss them. One Sister wrote me letters from 1975-1996. Her last letter was just a few days before her death.Her name was Sr.Catherine from the northeastProvince.What a Saint.I hope that you are happy as a Daughter of Charity.
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