The liberalizing forces in the Catholic Church mirror almost perfectly the liberalizing voices in the Anglican Communion. Thus far, the liberalizing forces in the Catholic Church have only succeeded in being divisive and a pain in the neck but with little success unlike the Anglican Communion where liberalizing forces have won the day and destroyed their sect.
For example, the Anglican branch in the USA, known as the Protestant Episcopal Church is winding down to nothing. In the 1970’s they had a small number of members, about 3.5 million, a very influential 3.5 million members but really, really small, but really,, really rich and comfortable.
Today they are a little over 1 million adherents.
How did all of this decline happen? How could it happen? They did everything possible to be a just, inclusive and open communion, todas, todas, todas! And now they have no one, no one, none one.
And they did all the worldly right things to promote todas, todas, todas. They embraced fully every ideology of the LGBTQ+++ political lobby. They ordain anyone and of whatever gender or state of marriage. Everyone can go to their communion, everyone, no need to be Anglican or in any kind of state of grace.
And they are social justice warriors too, from support of the LGBTQ+++ ideology crusades and parades to helping the poor, disenfranchised and preaching love and peace. How could all of this go wrong?
And there is Episcopal Church-envy by many Catholics who want what the Episcopal Church has gotten and does.
Interesting, no?
But the small heterodox group who remain are on fire for their way of doing things and are quite content. So don’t disturb them by saying that more than half your members have left to become something else on nones.
Let’s remain self-referential and comfortable in what we are doing and ignore those who say no to it.
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ISIB&ISIA: Our progressives would have the Most Holy Catholic Church be tomorrow every thing that the Anglicans Communion is today -- moribund.
The money quote from Cardinal Muller about the TLM:
The German prelate, a longtime professor of dogmatic theology, called devotion to traditional liturgy and the rejection of papal authority “two absolutely different questions” and faulted bishops who forbid the TLM as “authoritarian.”
The very non-Progressive Southern Baptist Convention has seen a nearly two-decade decline, dropping to roughly 12.33 million members.
Care to comment on the Disunited Methodist Church and the Conservative Non Denominational sects?
All Highest K you must be enjoying the decline of Roman Catholicism you help facilitate each day!
In regard to this weekend's Consistory:
As has been his history in regard to the SSPX, Cardinal Müller again condemned the Society's war against Rome. As reported by Catholic Culture:
-- Cardinal Müller calls for Vatican response to SSPX
"Cardinal Müller...proposed that a formal response to the Lefebvrists be prepared, reaffirming that Rome has never abandoned the path of tradition, contrary to their claims,” Nico Spuntoni of Il Giornale reported.
"The cardinal also addressed the implications of one of the scenarios we reported in recent days: should the Society of St. Pius X formally enter into schism following the episcopal consecration of new bishops without a pontifical mandate, many Lefebvrists are expected to seek reconciliation with Rome.
"He therefore stressed the need to prepare for their reception, proposing a structure modeled on the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, established in 1988 by St. John Paul II to welcome those who wished to return to full communion with Rome after Archbishop Lefebvre’s illicit episcopal consecrations."
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Three weeks ago via his interview with Lothar C. Rilinger, Cardinal Müller denounced the SSPX's pending consecrations, as well as the Society's attacks upon the Council and Holy Mass of Pope Saint Paul VI.
Cardinal Müller denounced, for example, SSPX claims lodged against the Holy Mass of Pope Saint Paul VI...he also rejected the popular claim that the TLM had developed in homogeneous fashion.
Cardinal Müller:
"Incidentally, the liturgical reform did not create a new rite, but merely simplified the previous rite, which itself had emerged from a not always homogeneous development, so that the faithful could participate more easily, both internally and externally (in the vernacular)."
"The liturgy as such is not the problem, but rather the unfounded accusation by the FSSPX that the Catholic Church, under Popes Paul VI, John Paul II, Benedict XVI, Francis and Leo XIV, has dogmatically deviated from the Catholic faith, absurdly counting the Novus Ordo Mass among the deviations, which according to the Fraternity contains dogmatic errors, such as the fact that its sacrificial character has, if not denied, at least been obscured in favor of a mere memorial meal."
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Cardinal Müller noted that the SSPX views itself as a community who intends to "remain at a distance" as they view themselves as keepers of the Faith while NewChurch, which includes Pope Leo XIV, as well as thousands of bishops, priests, have embraced Modernism supposedly.
Cardinal Müller: "The FSSPX...sees itself as a community of necessity that will remain at a distance until the millions of Catholics who have fallen for modernism, along with thousands of priests and bishops and the current Pope, have returned to that Church, which the FSSPX as the holy remnant of the one true Catholic Church has preserved."
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Cardinal Müller: "And that is why only the Church of Peter has always stood firm in the faith and remained free from error.
"For what Jesus said to Peter — according to Thomas Aquinas — applies directly to his successor as well, and that is Pope Leo XIV: “I have prayed for you that your own faith may not fail.” (Lk 22:32)."
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Based upon news reports yesterday:
Cardinal Müller has broached the notion to accommodate priests of the SSPX who may bolt this Wednesday from the Society.
As AI Overview has noted, reports claimed also that "Cardinal Gerhard Müller has strongly urged the Vatican to respond to the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX)."
"Ahead of scheduled SSPX episcopal consecrations, the SSPX sent a declaration claiming that Rome has "lost the faith." In response, Müller called on the College of Cardinals to firmly push back.
"He proposed that Rome prepare a formal response to the SSPX's letter, officially reaffirming that the Holy See has never abandoned the path of Tradition.
"Create a Reception Structure: He also suggested creating a new structure — similar to the former Ecclesia Dei commission — to receive members expected to break away from the SSPX."
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Unfortunately, the SSPX has long viewed Cardinal Müller as the enemy. Years ago he had denounced the SSPX as schismatic. Bishop Fellay claimed that Cardinal Müller later desired to excommunicate the SSPX, but Pope Francis refused to accommodate the Cardinal.
Bishop Fellay, July 20, 2018 A.D:
"Cardinal Müller wanted to obtain our excommunication, and Pope Francis refused. He told me personally: “I will not condemn you!”
https://fsspx.news/en/news/bishop-fellay-interview-are-disturbing-factor-church-19871
It is a given that the SSPX, as well as more than a few non-SSPX trads, would view any structure to accommodate priests who bolted from the Society as a Modernist Rome "trick" designed to split the SSPX.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
During an interview with EWTN, network reporeted:
"Asked what faithful drawn to SSPX Masses should do if a schism follows, Müller said they “shouldn’t go, and cannot participate in the Masses of schismatic priests and bishops.”
Pax.
Mark Thomas
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