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Wednesday, July 3, 2024

AT THE VATICAN, PEOPLE IN HIGH PLACES WANT TO KEEP RUPNICK’S ART, EVEN AS CLIP ART; BUT THEY WANT TO GET RID OF THE 1,500 YEAR OLD TRADITION OF HIGH ART, THE ANCIENT LATIN MASS! ARE WE DEALING WITH JOE BIDENS IN THE VATICAN???

 Canceling art:



Phylis Zagano, of the National Catholic Reporter, a somewhat heterodox feminist, nails it with this commentary on Rupnick’s art:

An accused priest, his art and the Vatican

Because it is art meant to lead people into prayer, contemplation and spirituality, people think that is should be separated from the artist. But in Rupnick’s case, this is hard to do.

But let’s speak about another type of art, much higher than mosaics, murals, canvas and paint. It’s the Traditional Latin Mass and its patrimony. Yet the Vatican, with a simple decree in 1969 and again with TC a couple of years ago, tried and is trying to suppress this ultimate and high work of art which is meant to inspire faith, hope and love within the context of prayer, contemplation and spirituality not to mention devotion and mysticism. 

The Vatican and others who support Rupnick’s art and want to keep it, even as clip art, look very ridiculous at this point while at the same time they want to destroy the work of art that is the celebration of the Ancient Latin Mass. Just my most humble opinion. 

And now famous people in the United Kingdom are asking the Vatican to preserve the work of art that the Ancient Latin Mass is. Among them is Mick Jagger’s ex-wife, Bianca Jagger. And if a Rolling Stone’s ex wife wants the Ancient Latin Mass to be preserved and celebrated, you know that it must be preserved! Case closed!!!!!!


7 comments:

James E Dangerfield said...

Charity, your dork! Are you really so ugly? For the good of the Church, your soul and reputation, you need to give this up. Are you a priest of the living God or an apostle of Trump?

Bob said...

All the laity who find the Latin mass more spiritual, all the priests as well, and who cares? But let an aging political human rights activist and former rock and roll groupie and party girl formerly infatuated with India spirituality speak up, and case is closed...this should fix EVERYTHING....

maybe Francis had a crush on her when he and she were much younger, she is pushing 80 now, and her save the Latin mass, and be named a saint, Defender Of etc etc, Hammer Of Fruit Loops.

Bob said...

"James", I can see why the post "triggered" you into a political rant....talking about a spiritual mass and beauty does it every time.

monkmcg said...

The irony is so rich! The same people who are confused about art are even more egregiously confused on a far more dangerous topic- but are pleased as punch that people are spending time/energy on this.

In the wake of the ongoing revelations about homosexual predation by clergy (just wait until the NY and NJ AG reports come out!) we have a hierarchy doing everything they can to normalize and accommodate homosexuality (as long as it is not "active" - wink, wink).

That worked so well with contraception; let's try it again.

ByzRus said...


As an Easterner who regularly basks in our liturgical patrimony (and is increasingly knowledgeable about its scriptural roots), it has become difficult for me to digest, despite the firm denials of many, how rupture hasn't occurred in the West.

Bob said...

Well, ByzRus, I am also quite familiar with similar tendencies in Orthodox churches, quite a bit of off the media radar pushes from inside to "modernize" and approve in every respect everything raunchy in modern culture, and homosexual sex scandal running right up to highest circles in Russia, and news just far more suppressed.

There is no safe place from this corruption, the Orthodox only lagging behind Roman Catholics in this regard. Rote ritual is not the answer, never has been, and didn't work for the pharisees and sadducees, and hasn't worked for the various Churches.

ByzRus said...

Bob,

Your thoughts, to me, spotlight a symptom of the overall disease. It sounds as if you are suggesting something analogous to the tired axiom "unless it occurs in sack-cloth in white-washed surroundings, one mustn't be able to participate / one clearly is only there for the show".

Just because we maintain a highly stylized liturgy/ritual, doesn't mean that it isn't prayerful. On the contrary. We have a disciplined rule of prayer, fasting and sacraments. To be sure, one certainly is free to go through the motions, confess once per year, fast/abstain only during the Great Fast and just sit there instead of actively participating. Folks with that mindset usually just stop coming.

We are expected to pray daily, expected to confess at least 4 times per year in concert with our penitential/fasting seasons, expected to participate regularly in the sacramental life of the Church (all liturgies - we have more than Divine Liturgy "mass") and contribute toward the upkeep of the parish, Eparchy and almsgiving. Participation at liturgy involves praying the prayers, bowing, crossing, our liturgy is visual, physical in addition to nourishing the soul. To accomplish the aforementioned takes both time and discipline. It's a clear commitment, not just something we turn on and off again after an hour plus on Sundays. Most who surround me are fairly disciplined. I suspect the Roman discipline to be similar should one choose to expend the effort; I'm not however attempting to compare/contrast/best the other guy.

I do not wish to deny you your experience, peripheral, or in depth; however, unless you live a life of Eastern spirituality, live it daily and yearly IN SUCCESSION (not dabbling), you will never completely understand the discipline and commitment expected of Eastern believers. Say what you will, you must live it to understand, accept and commit. There is absolutely no substitute for the work and commitment.

Regarding reform, corruption, whatever form it could take, I am sure it is everywhere. It would be naive to think otherwise. In the East, we are ever vigilant regarding sinful encroachment and strive always to keep it at bay. Despite these efforts, the Evil One will continue to torment and we will continue to raise our spiritual armor.