I just think all the talking heads in media and candidates are way to cocksure in a totally uncertified but yet certain way.
The race has been decided by margins far smaller than 1:100 and both parties need to on top of things in rooting out disqualified or illegal votes, and the process allowed to work itself out.
This unseemly rush to paid-by-the-word expert commentary where "projected" intentionally dropped to declare certitude is essentially dishonest and a lie, and as like to cause as many problems as it supposedly cures and whose only real motivations are ideological and click-baitable.
The experts really just cannot get it through their self centered arrogant heads that about half the people in the USA across all races and party affiliations are tired of being told by the experts on how we are to think.
"In June of 2018, a spate of incidents occurred in which Trump administration officials were heckled at or asked to leave restaurants. This happened to then-Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen who was heckled at a DC eatery and then-Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders who was asked to leave a Virginia restaurant by its owner. A debate grew about whether such public shaming was an acceptable form of political speech. Many on the left argued it was.
One Democrat, Rep. Maxine Waters had no doubt about the just nature of this tactic, she said at the time, “Lets make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”"
Unseemly? Surely, anonymous, you "accidentally" omitted from your post the very same accusations against President Trump!
He has repeatedly declared "certitude," thereby being "essentially dishonest" and telling a lie when he says he has won . . . by a LOT.
Surely you must - you MUST - have intended to include in your post comments about how "self centered" and "arrogant" President Trump is in telling us "how we are to think."
I suggest we just all shut up and see how this plays out. Somebody is going to post something that makes us angry. So what? Don't take the bait. You can't control the jerks. And you don't have to bother responding either. They're not worth it.
In view of all the MSM unfair attacks against Mr Trump over the past 4 years, it is amazing that Mr Trump came so close to winning again. Tolstoy thought all governments were evil, but I have learned from the past year how evil the MSM is, particularly with all this Covid-19 propaganda and of course the way facts are twisted against ideological opponents. Many years ago when listening to shortwave was still a hobby, I was amazed as to how the news broadcast by Radio Moscow of the USSR revealed artistic genius in cleverly interpreting the facts to suit their propaganda. I now see this evil art inherited by the money-grubbing American MSM. Malcolm Muggeridge thought that TV was the work of the devil, but that was at a time when journalists still endeavoured to be fair if not unbiased in their news reporting. That is no longer the case.
For what it's worth I came across this which shows that there is something peculiar about the voting results in some key areas, that the pattern of voting that favours Mr Biden breaks Benford's Law of Mathematics, suggesting massive fraud in those areas:
As most Italians know: it ain't over until the fat lady sings. All of the news celebrating the 'president elect' as announced by the 'associated press' is "FAKE NEWS". If someone screams victory, than it must be true?????
You can’t be president elect until the other candidate concedes or congress certifies the results. We do NOT have a president elect. ABC, NBC, You tube etc. have all taken down their video posts showing a Trump lead in states and then the abrupt halt/about face. The media is trying to become the ruling class. Fox has a Clinton donor in charge of calling states... software “glitches” and backdated postmarks... the unheard voices are real, alive people who voted for conservative candidates. They are the ones being silenced and they are the ones being censored. If we sweep this all under the rug and agree we have a president elect, then the unborn will NEVER have a voice in government standing up for them. Those opposed to conservative values where very patient while Al Gore stretched the count out an additional 40 days and they all were patient and cheering for Stacy Abrahms recount demands. They all ought to be patient now. We have no president elect, period, end of statement. Be patient and let the process work itself out. Continue to pray, fast and beg God for the truth and the strength to accept whatever God allows to happen next.
The president elect, technically isn’t that, until the electoral college meets to confirm the projections. The same was true in 2016 when the press based on projections declared Trump the president elect. The shock then was CNN joined other msm in doing so. This time Fox has done so.
It isn't "despair" in the Catholic sense to see that we are on a very bad spiritual trajectory. We are more shameless than any generation in recent American history, and more arrogant, and more easily offended, and more selfish. Perhaps most notably, we have the bizarre idea that if we want something very much, our desire and will change reality. On the left this manifests itself as abortion and transgenderism, but note that this has also been Trump's approach to every issue he faced in his presidency, from immigration to the environment to the virus to the election. All these flaws are rampant on both sides of the aisle, so the cure CANNOT come from politics.
Meanwhile, we are headed for a period of real national suffering. I do not mean a "chastisement" in the sense of something that would have made a good Cecil B. DeMille movie; I mean something more like the suffering of a drunk driver who hits a tree and loses the use of his legs: a natural consequence of our own bad choices. This was coming regardless of who won the election, and indeed was already beginning, though I fear Biden and Harris will speed it up and make it worse.
There is no guarantee that the nation survives this. We have never been united by ethnicity or religion, but by a common political vision, and that is certainly gone. Strength and prosperity are likely to fail as well. That leaves only government force, which I suspect we WILL see dramatically increase. Again, that is a trend we have been on since before Trump entertained any political aspirations, and it could not have been changed by an election; yet I fear that Biden and Harris will make it worse by attacking what little remains of that common political vision.
None of this is exactly cheerful, but it has nothing to do with the virtue of hope or the vice of despair, only with realism.
The only candidate I saw calling the election results prematurely and declaring himself the winner was Trump during a press conference in the East Room of the White House at 2.30am on election night against a background of multiple stars and stripe flags and accompanied by triumphant military music. The voting hadn’t even been concluded in a large number of states at that stage.
But I don’t hear any of you Trump fanatics complaining about his attempted coup!
NO - it was exactly that, an attempted coup (albeit badly executed) and nothing less - Trump with declaring himself winner and re-elected as President before the ballot counting had concluded - and not just that, he tried to intimidate states to stop the ongoing vote counting and verification process by threatening them with the Supreme Court as an act of blatant intimidation.
The USA has had a narrow escape from re-electing an authoritarian with pretentious of dictatorship.
Like I said folks: I suggest we just all shut up and see how this plays out. Somebody is going to post something that makes us angry. So what? Don't take the bait. You can't control the jerks. And you don't have to bother responding either. They're not worth it.
But no--the stupidity and bickering just go on and on. Enough of this. "Oh Yeah?" Stuff. Regardless of who wins, God can use that person in spite of himself. Mankind makes his plans, but God has the last word.
Stop taking the bait and just be quiet. Pray and wait, regardless of what side you are on.
I guess you don’t know many people in the service, Father. The military will not defend Trump. Most have had it up to here with his cowardice and lies and disrespect. (You’ve probably noticed that not even the military overseas vote is bailing him out.) And as of Jan. 20, he’s no longer commander in chief. Our military will gladly help take out the garbage.
No gloating. Don’t be like Trump voters in 2016. “He won, get over it.” “Xxxx your feelings.”’ “Lock her up.”’ And on on. Let’s show some class this time, America.
Shut Down: When the pro-Trump crowd stands down and stops spreading nonsense and lies, I'm sure the rest of America -- the majority -- will do the same. I don't see it happening anytime soon. Until them, good people need to stand up and be counted and put the facts out there.
Let's stop with the "coup" talk, as though the events between now and February 1 were going to be like an action-packed summer blockbuster rather than a dreary, low-budget soap opera in which both the protagonists and antagonists (however you wish to define them) are small-minded, self-absorbed, unlikable characters. Sheesh! I'd be up for something like the Roman response to the rape of Lucretia, exiling the Tarquins and ending the monarchy -- or to the finale of RED STORM RISING. It would be better than the passive-aggressive politics of victimhood that dominates US politics today.
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I just think all the talking heads in media and candidates are way to cocksure in a totally uncertified but yet certain way.
The race has been decided by margins far smaller than 1:100 and both parties need to on top of things in rooting out disqualified or illegal votes, and the process allowed to work itself out.
This unseemly rush to paid-by-the-word expert commentary where "projected" intentionally dropped to declare certitude is essentially dishonest and a lie, and as like to cause as many problems as it supposedly cures and whose only real motivations are ideological and click-baitable.
The experts really just cannot get it through their self centered arrogant heads that about half the people in the USA across all races and party affiliations are tired of being told by the experts on how we are to think.
"In June of 2018, a spate of incidents occurred in which Trump administration officials were heckled at or asked to leave restaurants. This happened to then-Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen who was heckled at a DC eatery and then-Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders who was asked to leave a Virginia restaurant by its owner. A debate grew about whether such public shaming was an acceptable form of political speech. Many on the left argued it was.
One Democrat, Rep. Maxine Waters had no doubt about the just nature of this tactic, she said at the time, “Lets make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”"
"turn the other cheek?"
Unseemly? Surely, anonymous, you "accidentally" omitted from your post the very same accusations against President Trump!
He has repeatedly declared "certitude," thereby being "essentially dishonest" and telling a lie when he says he has won . . . by a LOT.
Surely you must - you MUST - have intended to include in your post comments about how "self centered" and "arrogant" President Trump is in telling us "how we are to think."
Cocksure . . . you bet!
I suggest we just all shut up and see how this plays out. Somebody is going to post something that makes us angry. So what? Don't take the bait. You can't control the jerks. And you don't have to bother responding either. They're not worth it.
In view of all the MSM unfair attacks against Mr Trump over the past 4 years, it is amazing that Mr Trump came so close to winning again. Tolstoy thought all governments were evil, but I have learned from the past year how evil the MSM is, particularly with all this Covid-19 propaganda and of course the way facts are twisted against ideological opponents. Many years ago when listening to shortwave was still a hobby, I was amazed as to how the news broadcast by Radio Moscow of the USSR revealed artistic genius in cleverly interpreting the facts to suit their propaganda. I now see this evil art inherited by the money-grubbing American MSM. Malcolm Muggeridge thought that TV was the work of the devil, but that was at a time when journalists still endeavoured to be fair if not unbiased in their news reporting. That is no longer the case.
For what it's worth I came across this which shows that there is something peculiar about the voting results in some key areas, that the pattern of voting that favours Mr Biden breaks Benford's Law of Mathematics, suggesting massive fraud in those areas:
https://gnews.org/534248/
As most Italians know: it ain't over until the fat lady sings. All of the news celebrating the 'president elect' as announced by the 'associated press' is "FAKE NEWS". If someone screams victory, than it must be true?????
You can’t be president elect until the other candidate concedes or congress certifies the results. We do NOT have a president elect. ABC, NBC, You tube etc. have all taken down their video posts showing a Trump lead in states and then the abrupt halt/about face. The media is trying to become the ruling class. Fox has a Clinton donor in charge of calling states... software “glitches” and backdated postmarks... the unheard voices are real, alive people who voted for conservative candidates. They are the ones being silenced and they are the ones being censored. If we sweep this all under the rug and agree we have a president elect, then the unborn will NEVER have a voice in government standing up for them. Those opposed to conservative values where very patient while Al Gore stretched the count out an additional 40 days and they all were patient and cheering for Stacy Abrahms recount demands. They all ought to be patient now. We have no president elect, period, end of statement. Be patient and let the process work itself out. Continue to pray, fast and beg God for the truth and the strength to accept whatever God allows to happen next.
The president elect, technically isn’t that, until the electoral college meets to confirm the projections. The same was true in 2016 when the press based on projections declared Trump the president elect. The shock then was CNN joined other msm in doing so. This time Fox has done so.
Electoral college meets December 14 I think.
"You can’t be president elect until the other candidate concedes or congress certifies the results."
Trump need not concede in order for Biden to be the President-elect.
States, not Congress, certify their own elections with the results being sent to the Congress.
Biden will officially be President-elect after the Electoral College votes on 14 December.
It isn't "despair" in the Catholic sense to see that we are on a very bad spiritual trajectory. We are more shameless than any generation in recent American history, and more arrogant, and more easily offended, and more selfish. Perhaps most notably, we have the bizarre idea that if we want something very much, our desire and will change reality. On the left this manifests itself as abortion and transgenderism, but note that this has also been Trump's approach to every issue he faced in his presidency, from immigration to the environment to the virus to the election. All these flaws are rampant on both sides of the aisle, so the cure CANNOT come from politics.
Meanwhile, we are headed for a period of real national suffering. I do not mean a "chastisement" in the sense of something that would have made a good Cecil B. DeMille movie; I mean something more like the suffering of a drunk driver who hits a tree and loses the use of his legs: a natural consequence of our own bad choices. This was coming regardless of who won the election, and indeed was already beginning, though I fear Biden and Harris will speed it up and make it worse.
There is no guarantee that the nation survives this. We have never been united by ethnicity or religion, but by a common political vision, and that is certainly gone. Strength and prosperity are likely to fail as well. That leaves only government force, which I suspect we WILL see dramatically increase. Again, that is a trend we have been on since before Trump entertained any political aspirations, and it could not have been changed by an election; yet I fear that Biden and Harris will make it worse by attacking what little remains of that common political vision.
None of this is exactly cheerful, but it has nothing to do with the virtue of hope or the vice of despair, only with realism.
Anonymous@9.10am,
Thank you for what you wrote above. You made some great points.
The only candidate I saw calling the election results prematurely and declaring himself the winner was Trump during a press conference in the East Room of the White House at 2.30am on election night against a background of multiple stars and stripe flags and accompanied by triumphant military music. The voting hadn’t even been concluded in a large number of states at that stage.
But I don’t hear any of you Trump fanatics complaining about his attempted coup!
It is not a coup until January 20 when Biden is sworn in and Trump is barricaded in the WH and military defending him.
LOLOLOLOLOL!! I cannot wait to see if you are a prophet Father!
NO - it was exactly that, an attempted coup (albeit badly executed) and nothing less - Trump with declaring himself winner and re-elected as President before the ballot counting had concluded - and not just that, he tried to intimidate states to stop the ongoing vote counting and verification process by threatening them with the Supreme Court as an act of blatant intimidation.
The USA has had a narrow escape from re-electing an authoritarian with pretentious of dictatorship.
Like I said folks: I suggest we just all shut up and see how this plays out. Somebody is going to post something that makes us angry. So what? Don't take the bait. You can't control the jerks. And you don't have to bother responding either. They're not worth it.
But no--the stupidity and bickering just go on and on. Enough of this. "Oh Yeah?" Stuff. Regardless of who wins, God can use that person in spite of himself. Mankind makes his plans, but God has the last word.
Stop taking the bait and just be quiet. Pray and wait, regardless of what side you are on.
I guess you don’t know many people in the service, Father. The military will not defend Trump. Most have had it up to here with his cowardice and lies and disrespect. (You’ve probably noticed that not even the military overseas vote is bailing him out.) And as of Jan. 20, he’s no longer commander in chief. Our military will gladly help take out the garbage.
Case in point.
No gloating. Don’t be like Trump voters in 2016. “He won, get over it.” “Xxxx your feelings.”’ “Lock her up.”’ And on on. Let’s show some class this time, America.
Shut Down: When the pro-Trump crowd stands down and stops spreading nonsense and lies, I'm sure the rest of America -- the majority -- will do the same. I don't see it happening anytime soon. Until them, good people need to stand up and be counted and put the facts out there.
Let's stop with the "coup" talk, as though the events between now and February 1 were going to be like an action-packed summer blockbuster rather than a dreary, low-budget soap opera in which both the protagonists and antagonists (however you wish to define them) are small-minded, self-absorbed, unlikable characters. Sheesh! I'd be up for something like the Roman response to the rape of Lucretia, exiling the Tarquins and ending the monarchy -- or to the finale of RED STORM RISING. It would be better than the passive-aggressive politics of victimhood that dominates US politics today.
Has Stacy Abrams conceded her election yet?
It took a Supreme Court decision to stop Al Gore from making his case for claiming every hanging chad in South Florida.
There are are more than a few today saying "accept the results" who give evidence of having a selective memory.
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