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Sunday, August 25, 2019

COPIED FROM CHURCH POP AND SURE TO DRIVE CRAZY MY GENERATION AND OLDER REVOLUTIONARY VATICAN II CLERGY AND LAITY. BUT HEY, WE DESERV3 IT! 😇

Please note the Augusta National Master’s 2019 sign on the wall of the set! I hope they didn’t steal it!

During this week’s episode of The Catholic Talk Show, Ryan Scheel, Fr. Rich Pagano, and Ryan DellaCrosse discuss “Lost Catholic Traditions We Should Bring Back.”
They cover Rogation Days, Ember Days, The First Friday Devotion, why Catholics don’t still have meatless Fridays, the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter, and why altar rails make more sense than lines.

Fr. Rich Pagano explains why he thinks bringing back altar rails makes perfect sense:

Do you think the Catholic Church should bring back altar rails?

10 comments:

TJM said...

yes, next question

Cletus Ordo said...

Yes.

Of Course!

Absolutely!

What was the reason the "experts" gave us for tearing them down again?

Postconciliar Fatigued said...

Take a look at the marquee photo at the top of this blog. The half-circle style, the spaceship ceiling all have no antecedent in Catholic tradition, but a liturgical consultant knew what was best and forced it on that poor parish. Aside from the tabernacle and the free-standing Novus-Ordo altar, it could easily pass for a Protestant church. The elevated sanctuary is very casual looking with the indoor/outdoor carpet and nothing separates the sense of the sacred and the respect for the priesthood in this kind of setup. This 70's style schlock architecture and design leaves no place for an altar rail. It was built from the arrogance that we were living in the postconciliar "new Church" and the old would never rear its ugly head again. And it certainly defies Summorum Pontificum's call to make the older rite more readily available. All I can think of when I look at garbage designs like this are Cardinal Ranjith's warning that those who oppose Summorum Pontificum are "agents of the Devil."

Lucifer had no shortage of his men in the ranks of liturgical consultants.

Anonymous said...

The semi-circle seating and the "spaceship" (domed or half-domed) ceiling most certainly do have precedents, some rather ancient, in Catholic liturgical tradition.

(Do HVAC vents and pendants lights make the ceiling look like a "spaceship"?)

"When Christianity was officially recognized in the Roman Empire, it naturally adopted the numerous temples and converted them into Christian churches. The Pantheon was christened Santa Maria ad Martyres and became a place to worship the Holy Trinity."

The Pantheon is a domed structure. It is also round.

The carpet in Holy Family Church is not indoor-outdoor carpet. I've been there - have you?

The church features a Holy Family garden and a bronze Holy Family sculpture. There is a plaque commemorating the victims of abortion, a Shrine to Our Lady of Guadalupe, a Stations of the Cross Walk, an Our Lady of Fatima Window, and etched Stations of the Cross inside.

And you suggest 'it could easily pass for a Protestant church?
hardly.

JDJ said...

Yes indeed!
As a side story: Our local priest (such a good one!) started offering the EF Mass once a month in our very 80s in-the-round (ugh!) nave+sanctuary. It was impossible for the elderly with creaky knees to kneel and receive—and so many of them really wanted that.
But perhaps even more to the point it’s just difficult to see any difference between nave and sanctuary. The sanctuary used to be, and still is in the Eastern Rites, considered the Holy of Holies area of the Church. I miss that..

Postconciliar Fatigued said...

At this point, Fr. has taken down the photo, but needless to say, I've seen photos of the pantheon.

That lump of concrete ain't no pantheon.

For hundreds of years, no one building parish churches would have even ATTEMPTED to mimic the pantheon. That's just more liturgical doublespeak from the frauds who foisted this kind of schlock on us in the 60's and 70's.


Enough said.

Anonymous said...

Bee here:

Yes, I do think we should bring back altar rails, and when installed, the priest should give a little catechism about them, their history, and what the cloth is for, and the proper placement of the hands, just so those who have no idea and never saw them before are familiarized with them.

God bless.
Bee

Anonymous said...

I've been to the Pantheon.

You said, "The half-circle style, the spaceship ceiling all have no antecedent in Catholic tradition."

Well, there are antecedents. Besides the Pantheon, there are MANY Catholic Churches with similar domed and half-domed ceilings.

You said, "...it could easily pass for a Protestant church."

I pointed out the elements in that church that make your statement false.

You said, "...very casual looking with the indoor/outdoor carpet..."

I've been to Holy Family church. It's not indoor-outdoor carpet.

Facts are not double-speak.

Anonymous said...

More will be introduced to "Altar Rails"! Yea!
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Mike

Marc said...

Catholics never stopped celebrating Rogation Days, Ember Days, the First Friday (and First Saturday) devotions, and keeping meatless Fridays.

If your parish stopped doing these things...