MEET THE INDIAN AND BLACK THUGS
Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on who the guilty parties are in the Covington Catholic controversy:
The Catholic white boys from Covington Catholic High School—hated because they are Catholic, white, male, and Trump supporters (some of them)—have been indicted by lots of pundits, politicians, reporters, and celebrities, both liberal and conservative. Yet the record shows that the students were the only innocent party to this fracas. None of them said or did anything bigoted, but this is not true of the Indians and the black Israelites.
A group of about 20 Indians, led by activist Nathan Phillips, tried to storm a Mass on January 19 at the Basilica of the National Shrine of Immaculate Conception in Washington D.C. They were stopped by security who had to lock the doors. This is what the Nazis did to the Jews in Hitler’s Germany—they crashed the synagogues during services.
It is against the law in D.C. to disturb a religious service. Had Phillips succeeded, it would have been a hate crime. If the Catholic students had barged into a crowd of Indians while they were praying, they would be on the front page of every newspaper in the country and it would be the lead story on the broadcast and cable news outlets.
However, this unprovoked attack by Phillips and company—on innocent persons exercising their First Amendment right to religious liberty—was ignored by most of the mainstream media. The New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post, Associated Press, ABC News. CBS News, NBC News, CNN and MSNBC never said a word about it. Only Fox News did.
Phillips also made disparaging remarks about Catholicism, saying the students are not being told the truth about their religion. Yet not one student made a disparaging remark about Indians. But the black thugs did—they called the Indians “savages.” That being the case, why didn’t Phillips and his merry band of church busters confront them? Why did they seek to crash a Mass instead? They are the bigots, not the kids.
The black Israelites bashed white people, black people, Christians (especially Catholics), Puerto Ricans, and homosexuals. Where were the gay rights groups? If the kids called gays “faggots”—which is what these thugs did—the media would have been up in arms. So it is not the content of an insult that matters, it is the identity of who says it.
The mainstream media picked up a few of the anti-Catholic statements by the black activists, but overall they did a lousy job. We watched the video and here are some of the most anti-Catholic statements that were made.
- [Black Israelite responding to a question] “You want to see hate in the Bible? Let’s see hate in the Bible. Let’s see what the Christians and the Catholics don’t go into.” [He then reads a verse from Ecclesiastes]
- [Black Israelite pointing out a Catholic priest standing nearby] “And like this, child molesting faggot priest right there… the Catholics are a bunch of child molesters.”
- [Black Israelite speaking to crowd] “You want to talk about R. Kelly. Why we don’t talk about the Catholic Church? Why we don’t talk about the Roman Catholic Church, and especially you so-called Hispanics and Negroes, you got no business calling yourself a Roman Catholic. When’s the last time you’ve been a Roman?”
- [Black Israelite speaking to Covington students] “And Jesus Christ is not a white man. This ain’t Jesus Christ…the truth matters. This is a faggot child molester. This is not Jesus Christ. If you look in the Bible, you will see he is a man of color” [man referring to a Catholic/Christian depiction of Jesus]
- [Black Israelite speaking to a Catholic prayer circle nearby] “The child molesting Catholic Church here. This is what we’ve come to. How long are we going stay in the Catholic Church? How long are we going to continue worshipping idols in the Catholic Church? Where is Hail Mary in the Bible? There’s no Hail Mary in the Bible. You can’t worship Mary. You’re supposed to worship the Lord.”
- [Black Israelite speaking to prayer group] “You have your reward. Your reward is your Catholic Church being tax exempt, being child molesters and getting away with it. You’ve been raping children since 1492 in the Catholic Church. You’ve been raping children in Rome before you got here. “
- [Black Israelite speaking to separate group of students] “When you walk in a Catholic Church, it is filled with idols. When you worship and kiss and bow down to a statue, you’re breaking the commandments of God. So the Catholic Church is totally against God, not even speaking about the child molestation. We’ll leave that one alone. But against God’s laws and commandments, yes. You say ‘Hail Mary, full of grace’. You say that prayer. Where is that prayer in the psalms? Where is that prayer in the Bible?”
No white student responded in kind to either the Indian or black activists. They, and they alone, were innocent.
What happened on January 18 has been nicely captured by my good friend, Rabbi Aryeh Spero. Here is what he told me.
“This is a contrived and false episode pounced on by people who hate religious white Catholics and are always on the look-out to demonize Catholics. These people are bigots. It is all part of the anti-Christianism by many segments in today’s leftist America and media collaborators. If they could, they would physically beat up Catholics and take away their jobs and livelihood simply because they are white, conservative, and people of biblical faith. They are consumed by hate. Who taught these people to SO hate white, religious Americans?”
27 comments:
Yes, truth must be told. And in pursuit of truth, surely one can have a lot more sympathy for the perceptions, perspectives, and actions of the American Indians, even those that engaged in a misguided attempt to disrupt the Mass, than for the perceptions, perspectives, and actions of the Black Israelites. The “truth” that Phillips wanted the students to know about their religion would seem to be of a vastly different kind than the vile distortions and “falsehoods” that the Black Israelites were peddling about the Catholic Faith. Also, to liken Phillips and other American Indian activists to Nazis seems unduly harsh, unjust, and even grotesque. In this regard the following items are instructive:
http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/cultural-diversity/native-american/resources/upload/a-time-for-remembering.pdf
https://newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoday/archive/pope-francis-apologizes-to-indigenous-peoples-for-grave-sins-of-colonialism-tlGAXDXgwkCkvmn10DjT3Q/
https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/ncr-today/indian-nations-ask-pope-francis-rescind-doctrine-discovery
https://www.ncronline.org/news/justice/denominations-repent-native-american-land-grabs
At the same time it is important to try to retain a sense of proper balance:
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-church-and-the-native-americans
More broadly, the USCCB has very recently (November 2018) issued an important pastoral letter on the evils of racism in general:
http://www.usccb.org/news/2018/18-186.cfm
http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/racism/upload/open-wide-our-hearts.pdf
Uhmm the "t-word" is now considered racist and terribly offensive. I think one is supposed to use "statute challenged."
Anonymous 2,
Thanks for providing us an example of the bigotry of low expectations practiced by modern liberals. Phillips is a fraud and a left-wing loon activist. The young Catholic high school student is a shining example of Catholic manhood, something many no longer recognize because they are consumed with "toxic masculinity" and other nonsensical liberal BS.
"....surely one can have a lot more sympathy for the perceptions, perspectives, and actions of the American Indians, even those that engaged in a misguided attempt to disrupt the Mass, than for the perceptions, perspectives, and actions of the Black Israelites."
THAT'S RACIST!!!
Anonymous,
I appreciate your attempt to play Gotcha but no it isn’t racist. I would say the same if they were "White Israelites" holding such views. The views are my concern, not the race of those who hold them.
And please notice the distinction between sympathy and empathy. We should still try to empathize with the Black Israelites and try to understand why they hold such vile and mistaken views of the Catholic Church.
A2, the reality today is that it is not the perpetrator of so called racist, or sexist, or homophobic, transphobic acts or "thought crimes" that gets to decide (or explain) whether or not the actions, words, or thoughts, were offensive.
A great example of this just happened.
Anonymous 2,
LOL -
"And please notice the distinction between sympathy and empathy. We should still try to empathize with the Black Israelites and try to understand why they hold such vile and mistaken views of the Catholic Church."
I guess you would have empathized with the Nazis and Fascists then, trying to understand why they held such vile and mistaken views of the Catholic Church!
Could it be that this group is just nuts? Evil?
Do you ever empathize with a MAGA supporter?
I understand that many MAGA hats wearers are hurting, that they are afraid, that they are deeply concerned about making America a better place.
In that, I empathize since I share some of those concerns and the discomfort.
Where many part ways with MAGA-ites is in identifying 1) the source of the hurt and fear they are experiencing and 2) how to go about making America a better place.
The MAGA-Master has brilliantly played one the resentment and fear of many in order to stir up in them a sense of near desperation. "Give me what I want or I'll shut down the government" was a pretty desperate move.
If, in three weeks, he declares a "National Emergency" on the Southern border - and since the illegal immigration numbers have been falling steadily since he took office it is hard to understand why, all of a sudden, this "emergency" has surfaced - he will find, again, that desperation isn't always the best game plan.
TJM:
Yes, yes, and yes.
CIA analysts are taught to empathize with adversaries. To defeat your enemy (including by showing him the error of his ways) you must first understand him. See chapter 6 on “Keeping an Open Mind” (especially sections on “Questioning Assumptions” and “Seeing Different Perspectives”) in this training resource on the CIA website:
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/books-and-monographs/psychology-of-intelligence-analysis/art9.html
Arguably this helps to put the Intelligence in Central Intelligence Agency! And hopefully you are now a little wiser (and a little more humble?) than you were before your typically dismissive post.
Anonymous 2 - You seem to be, shall I say, overly familiar with The Agency.
Anonymous:
Well said! I would only add that the MAGA Master has employed the classic demagogic technique of scapegoating the vulnerable in order to deflect his supporters from the true source of their woes—the swamp creatures with whom he has surrounded himself (“if they can’t afford bread, let them get a loan”) while claiming to drain the swamp, which is a truly brazen act of gaslighting.
So, we should forget about seeking political salvation from the MAGA Master and his ilk and start talking to (and listening to) one another and sharing our stories, preferably face to face if at all possible, so that we can overcome our mutual dehumanization of and alienation from “the Other,” whether Trump Supporter, Trump detractor, or even undocumented immigrant. Perhaps in this way we really can take our country back from the oligarchs who have stolen it from us (but we should talk to them as well, for they too are flawed, sinful, and broken human beings just as we are).
Dear MI5/6,
Blame that Felix fellow.
Anonymous Kavanaugh and Anonymous 2,
Unlike you and your Muslim Master Obama, we. MAGA deplorables do not have the blood of the unborn on our hands!
TJM,
To repeat what I said in an earlier thread after you posted a similar non-responsive non-sequitur comment such as the one at 8:48 p.m.:
A familiar response. What number does it have in your Instruction book? From now on I will follow Father Kavanaugh’s example and no longer dignify your ridiculous comments with a response. It is pointless.
Anonymous 2,
You and Kavanaugh don't respond because if you are a Catholic you can't defend your nonsensical position of voting for the Abortion Party and all of the instrinsic evils they stand for.
Goodness TJM! The likes of you and just don't realize that yes, at one time the Catholic clergy went into cultures and was shocked to see such practices as widows being burnt on their husbands pyres, and infanticide, and the Church actually taught against such practices. Now that is considered mean, and not supportive of anothers rights.
Now the Church is more enlightened and has to worry about plastics and not infringing on rights for the sake of anything as silly as "souls."
Dan,
Anonymous 2 and Kavanaugh are undoubtedly proud of their fellow traveler, Governor Cuomo's latest:
https://insider.foxnews.com/2019/01/26/albany-bishop-calls-out-andrew-cuomo-over-newly-signed-new-york-abortion-law
TJM,
To repeat what I said in an earlier thread after you posted a similar non-responsive non-sequitur comment such as the ones at 10:10 and 11:36 a.m.:
A familiar response. What number does it have in your Instruction book? From now on I will follow Father Kavanaugh’s example and no longer dignify your ridiculous comments with a response. It is pointless.
Anonymous 2,
I am disappointed because I thought you were a man of your word. You just did what you said you would not do. Viva la Abortion Party, buddy!!!!
TJM:
Okay, as you want to play cute (I must admit I did wonder how long it would take you to actually notice the point; perhaps you would have noticed it sooner had you not been so intent on posting ridiculous comments), I will amend my post as follows:
To repeat what I said in an earlier thread after you posted a similar non-responsive non-sequitur comment such as the ones at 10:10 and 11:36 a.m.:
A familiar response. What number does it have in your Instruction book? From now on I will follow Father Kavanaugh’s example and no longer dignify your ridiculous comments with a response other than this one. It is pointless.
Anonymous 2, you are getting repetitive like MT. Not good
In defense of MT. I at least understand that he feels it necessary to always defend the Pope. A2, however, always defends the culture and those who hate the Church.
Dan,
Yes, my mistake. Guys like Kavanaugh and Anonymous 2 must get their jollies posting their anti-Catholic views here. Must be they have "authority" issues. Their postings must make them feel powerful
Dan,
“A2, however, always defends the culture and those who hate the Church.”
Please direct us to instances that justify this assertion. If you cannot do so (and I am sure you cannot), please retract this calumny.
A2:
From now on I will follow Father Kavanaugh’s example and no longer dignify your ridiculous comments with a response other than this one. It is pointless.
To all those who think it is okay to them (or their favored politicians) to lie and to utter falsehoods about other people, the Catechism teaches otherwise:
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a8.htm
Indeed, lying is an intrinsic evil. For helpful commentary see
https://ronconte.wordpress.com/2014/07/22/the-catechism-of-the-catholic-church-on-lying/
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/is-lying-ever-right
Correction – “for them”, not “to them”
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