Wednesday, January 9, 2019

ONLY A PRIEST MY AGE AND/OR OLDER WOULD WRITE SUCH RUBBISH!

From that wonderful national chismatic reporter (NCR)

Make the Catholic Church great again? There's no going back




Can you pick out the one word in this paragraph which dates it’s author as an aging dinosaur 🦖 approximately my age but more than likely much older?

A lot of attention has been paid to those who have opted out of Catholicism entirely. Such is the case with Melinda Henneberger as expressed in her USA Today column and her essay in this publication. I understand this decision and the feelings that precipitate such a serious choice. I, too, have had my own struggles with how to square my faith in the God of Jesus Christ and the church with the darkest and most-disturbing criminality of some of its leaders. Being a member of a religious order and an ordained presbyter doesn't make me immune from doubt, anger and frustration. But I have not, at least for now, followed Henneberger's path.

Then there is this worn out 1970’s meme here. How would you respond:


For instance, in a church that is two-millennia old, a liturgical form that has existed since the 16th century is hardly the most "traditional." It's practically a fad. Ironically, it was the bishops and their periti at Vatican II that went back to the earliest Christian sources and examined the historical development of rites and rituals through the centuries in order to offer the best footing for what we might rightly call the most "traditional" approach to liturgy. It is traditional in that it better reflects the Christian tradition.
I think there is plenty of room in the church for those who wish to worship in diverse ways. But the "smells and bells" of a Latin liturgy in an ornate cathedral are no more beautiful or profound than the simple house liturgy of the first century communities or the massive liturgies on a beach during World Youth Days.

And then this is the meme of Catholic clergy still in denial about the gay self-referential and protecting cabal in the ranks of the clergy on all levels and a goodly number of laity:

While not an overwhelming number, there is a small but vocal group of Catholics who have taken the latest revelations as an opportunity to suggest the source of the crises in the church are the theological and liturgical reforms of the Second Vatican Council. This sort of conjecture is as incredible as those who claim gay clergy are the problem(a preposterous assertion that has been incontrovertibly disproven by scientific research).

DON'T YOU JUST LOVE IT WHEN PRIESTS RELY UPON THE INFALLIBLE AND I MEAN INFALLIBLE SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH WHICH THEY CLAIM TO HAVE READ OR CLAIM COMPETENCE TO INTERPRET?

12 comments:

Dan said...

Pope Standsalot approves.

TJM said...

Hey, we only have reduced the numbers of American Catholics going to Sunday Mass to around 25%. We can do better: 0%

TJM said...

LOL - this sounds like something our resident "scientist" would write.

Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh said...

TJM - You refer to me. But I remind you, I have never claimed to be a scientist. You referred to me as a scientist - I did not call myself that.

TJM said...

Kavanaugh, LOL. My are we sensitive today, your clericalism is showing. I think that tussle was between you and Gene. Now go make some converts and find some vocations.

Fr Martin Fox said...

I went and read the article. It is all such tired stuff. The author barely bothers even to engage with the ideas and arguments made by those with whom he disagrees.

Henry said...

"Can you pick out the one word in this paragraph which dates it’s author as an aging dinosaur?"

Sure . . . (ordained) presbyter .

Fr. Allan J. McDonald said...

thanks Henry, I have been looking for that answer all day long!

TJM said...

Henry,

We used to refer to people like the author as "double-knit dinosaurs!"

Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh said...

TJM - No, you said it:

Anonymous TJM said...
Anonymous Kavanaugh,

A non sequitur? Not really, just taking a shot at someone who claims they are a scientist or trained in science.

January 7, 2019 at 4:17 PM

DJR said...

"Can you pick out the one word in this paragraph which dates its author as an aging dinosaur approximately my age but more than likely much older?

On the contrary, Father Horan is fairly young.

http://torontocatholicwitness.blogspot.com/2017/01/daniel-p-horan-ofm-just-another.html

http://torontocatholicwitness.blogspot.com/2017/12/2017-year-of-homosexual-in-catholic.html

http://torontocatholicwitness.blogspot.com/2018/02/dan-horan-of-lgbt-holy-name-province.html

http://torontocatholicwitness.blogspot.com/2017/01/daniel-p-horan-ofm-why-i-do-not-support.html

https://danhoran.com/about/

DJR said...

Father Horan was born in 1983. All three of the priests who regularly contribute here are old enough to be his father.

To be polite, Father Horan would definitely not fall under one of Mark Thomas' condemnations of "right wing bloggers."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Horan