And more importantly, this is the Ordinary Form Mass we celebrated at St. Joseph on March 19th our Patron's Solemnity, but doing everything at the altar except the Liturgy of the Word:
I thought this was a very well written and thoughtful analysis of the OF Mass. What he eloquently writes, I've also suggested. Without any major changes to the Mass, one could:
Begin the Mass at the foot of the altar ad orientem for the Sign of the Cross, Greeting, Introduction to the Penitential Act, use the Confiteor with the congregation kneeling and the priest and ministers making a profound bow and after the absolution, the priest approaches the altar for the Kyrie and Gloria standing at the center of the altar and the Collect at the Epistle side.
Even using the current "Preparation Prayers with the Offerings" the Offetory antiphon can surely be sung.
I have not suggested ridding ourselves of any of the Eucharistic Prayer and there are more than four in the USA, there are two Reconcliation one and four other special ocassions ones. What I have suggested, though, and Dom does too, is that beginning with the Epiclesis and through the consecration of both the bread and wine, that it be the same in all of the Eucharistic Prayers and based on the Roman Canon. I am not opposed to the Mystery of Faith, but could live without it if that decisions was made. And certainly all the rubrics for the Roman Canon from the 1962 could easily be recovered, but not without legislation. In fact, I don't know if anything I'm suggesting in this comment could be done without legislation. Finally, Holy Communion kneeling is a no brainer. It is allowed now by exception and we provide a kneeler for those who wish to do so, but I do believe it needs to be legislated and the common chalice suppressed and intinction becomes the norm which would please the Eastern Orthodox as well as the Eastern Rite of the Church.
I'm not sure about the Last Gospel but I suspect a priest could still read it as a postlude to the Mass, similar to what the final hymn is--its not required either but you would be hard pressed not to find a parish that doesn't sing a final hymn.
Finally, I found it interesting that he says nothing about Latin and seems to have enjoyed the French vernacular Masses he celebrated--I too love the vernacular and am not wedded to an entirely spoken or sung Latin Mass, but I do believe that some Latin needs to be retained.
The epiclesis is in the first sentence of EP II and in the second sentence of EP III. In the Roman Canon it is the last prayer before the Qui pridie, beginning Quam oblationem ... which can't really be taken out of context. The signs of the cross at the doxology were removed in 1964, and the 'minor elevation' (which doesn't exist in older rites such as the Dominican) became something a lot more major. The signs of the cross were reduced to one and the genuflexions to two in 1967, and the original intention was to drop the Roman Canon altogether.
Regarding Communion, I don't like the idea of offering a menu of options (there are too many options in the OF anyway). The problem with intinction is that more traditional Catholics prefer to receive in one kind only. I like what happens at the Oxford Oratory. People receive kneeling at the rail from the priest or deacon (this is quicker than standing in line and encourages reception on the tongue) and then those who wish can proceed to a side chapel and receive, standing, from the chalice, which is proferred by a priest.
What you say about the preference of traditional Catholics is generally true, but I know a good many who probably are like me. In many ways about as traditional as it gets, I never ever and will never receive from the common chalice. However, whenever intinction is offered at an OF Mass, I find it a very spiritual experience, one in which the sometimes alleged "fuller sign" seems palpable even if literally ineffable (that is, not rationally expressible in theological terms).
John, "The problem with intinction is that more traditional Catholics prefer to receive in one kind only." While for practical reasons I think we offer the chalice to congregations far to frequently, I do not think the objection you mention has any spiritual merit. Each species contains the Body, Blood, soul and divinity of Christ, so why would a man of faith object in principal to one species over another?
I prefer to receive by intinction because it makes it easier for me to consume the Host; otherwise I have particles stuck to the roof of my mouth for a very long time.
I prefer the EF Mass, and I prefer the old English translations of prayers which include the thees, thous, and thines, but I cannot comprehend why anyone would be against receiving by intinction.
I am on the fence about intinction. Surely, I am not opposed to it in principle, but I wonder whether it is wise to continue it given our current state of depravity of understanding of the Eucharist. I must say, however, that I am opposed to the common chalice except in the most special and rare of circumstances, like marriages, and only for the couple. I think it is an extremely powerful symbol for them to receive from the chalice with everyone else receiving via intinction.
In my opinion, it takes a person very strong in the faith and who is well catechized to be able to "mine" the OF (as commonly celebrated) for the "riches" its proponents say it has. Whereas with the EF, I feel it is very well suited for ignorant people, since the symbology is so very layered. This is perhaps ironic considering that the EF is rather more difficult to "understand" and because it is in Latin. However, perhaps it is not so ironic: the incarnational aspect of the EF--viz. copious gestures and physical actions--serve as a constant reminder of the sacrality of what is happening. The OF has nothing but words and more words. Its ceremony is quite emaciated and I do not feel that it "speaks to the modern man." The modern man is ideologically dead, and so the natural question is, does it make sense to blab on and on with words that he does not understand even though they are in the vernacular? Let the homily/sermon be devoted to expounding the tenets of the faith; leave the rite alone.
I feel that the OF is far too verbose, almost professorial, in nature. In a way, it is very presumptuous, and the vernacular adds to that characteristic. We might liken it to a lecture course. On the other hand, I feel that the EF has a far better balance of word and action. We might liken it, then, to a course with a combination of lecture and laboratory.
Intinction is actively discouraged by the English bishops. Communion in both kinds was rare before the 1980s and its arrival coincided with the recruitment of Extraordinary Monsters. It was all part of an episcopal plot to 'empower' women and their Lordships cheerfully admitted as much. At a liberal parish I know the PP (who had been ordained before the Council) permitted self-intinction, amid divers other abuses; when he retired his successor immediately put a stop to it.
As anyone who has dunked biscuits in his coffee can testify, intinction is not without its hazards, and there is a real danger of drops of the Precious Blood going astray. But at least it means Communion in the hand is no longer possible, and the EMs can be put to more profitable use; arranging the flowers and washing the linens if female, and assisting in the sanctuary if male.
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Indeed. He is correct...these things must be legislated or "protestantized" Priests will simply ignore the Pope and do as they please.
In other words go back to at least before 1967.
I thought this was a very well written and thoughtful analysis of the OF Mass. What he eloquently writes, I've also suggested.
Without any major changes to the Mass, one could:
Begin the Mass at the foot of the altar ad orientem for the Sign of the Cross, Greeting, Introduction to the Penitential Act, use the Confiteor with the congregation kneeling and the priest and ministers making a profound bow and after the absolution, the priest approaches the altar for the Kyrie and Gloria standing at the center of the altar and the Collect at the Epistle side.
Even using the current "Preparation Prayers with the Offerings" the Offetory antiphon can surely be sung.
I have not suggested ridding ourselves of any of the Eucharistic Prayer and there are more than four in the USA, there are two Reconcliation one and four other special ocassions ones.
What I have suggested, though, and Dom does too, is that beginning with the Epiclesis and through the consecration of both the bread and wine, that it be the same in all of the Eucharistic Prayers and based on the Roman Canon. I am not opposed to the Mystery of Faith, but could live without it if that decisions was made. And certainly all the rubrics for the Roman Canon from the 1962 could easily be recovered, but not without legislation. In fact, I don't know if anything I'm suggesting in this comment could be done without legislation.
Finally, Holy Communion kneeling is a no brainer. It is allowed now by exception and we provide a kneeler for those who wish to do so, but I do believe it needs to be legislated and the common chalice suppressed and intinction becomes the norm which would please the Eastern Orthodox as well as the Eastern Rite of the Church.
I'm not sure about the Last Gospel but I suspect a priest could still read it as a postlude to the Mass, similar to what the final hymn is--its not required either but you would be hard pressed not to find a parish that doesn't sing a final hymn.
Finally, I found it interesting that he says nothing about Latin and seems to have enjoyed the French vernacular Masses he celebrated--I too love the vernacular and am not wedded to an entirely spoken or sung Latin Mass, but I do believe that some Latin needs to be retained.
The epiclesis is in the first sentence of EP II and in the second sentence of EP III. In the Roman Canon it is the last prayer before the Qui pridie, beginning Quam oblationem ... which can't really be taken out of context. The signs of the cross at the doxology were removed in 1964, and the 'minor elevation' (which doesn't exist in older rites such as the Dominican) became something a lot more major. The signs of the cross were reduced to one and the genuflexions to two in 1967, and the original intention was to drop the Roman Canon altogether.
Regarding Communion, I don't like the idea of offering a menu of options (there are too many options in the OF anyway). The problem with intinction is that more traditional Catholics prefer to receive in one kind only. I like what happens at the Oxford Oratory. People receive kneeling at the rail from the priest or deacon (this is quicker than standing in line and encourages reception on the tongue) and then those who wish can proceed to a side chapel and receive, standing, from the chalice, which is proferred by a priest.
John,
What you say about the preference of traditional Catholics is generally true, but I know a good many who probably are like me. In many ways about as traditional as it gets, I never ever and will never receive from the common chalice. However, whenever intinction is offered at an OF Mass, I find it a very spiritual experience, one in which the sometimes alleged "fuller sign" seems palpable even if literally ineffable (that is, not rationally expressible in theological terms).
John,
"The problem with intinction is that more traditional Catholics prefer to receive in one kind only." While for practical reasons I think we offer the chalice to congregations far to frequently, I do not think the objection you mention has any spiritual merit. Each species contains the Body, Blood, soul and divinity of Christ, so why would a man of faith object in principal to one species over another?
I prefer to receive by intinction because it makes it easier for me to consume the Host; otherwise I have particles stuck to the roof of my mouth for a very long time.
I prefer the EF Mass, and I prefer the old English translations of prayers which include the thees, thous, and thines, but I cannot comprehend why anyone would be against receiving by intinction.
I am on the fence about intinction. Surely, I am not opposed to it in principle, but I wonder whether it is wise to continue it given our current state of depravity of understanding of the Eucharist. I must say, however, that I am opposed to the common chalice except in the most special and rare of circumstances, like marriages, and only for the couple. I think it is an extremely powerful symbol for them to receive from the chalice with everyone else receiving via intinction.
In my opinion, it takes a person very strong in the faith and who is well catechized to be able to "mine" the OF (as commonly celebrated) for the "riches" its proponents say it has. Whereas with the EF, I feel it is very well suited for ignorant people, since the symbology is so very layered. This is perhaps ironic considering that the EF is rather more difficult to "understand" and because it is in Latin. However, perhaps it is not so ironic: the incarnational aspect of the EF--viz. copious gestures and physical actions--serve as a constant reminder of the sacrality of what is happening. The OF has nothing but words and more words. Its ceremony is quite emaciated and I do not feel that it "speaks to the modern man." The modern man is ideologically dead, and so the natural question is, does it make sense to blab on and on with words that he does not understand even though they are in the vernacular? Let the homily/sermon be devoted to expounding the tenets of the faith; leave the rite alone.
I feel that the OF is far too verbose, almost professorial, in nature. In a way, it is very presumptuous, and the vernacular adds to that characteristic. We might liken it to a lecture course. On the other hand, I feel that the EF has a far better balance of word and action. We might liken it, then, to a course with a combination of lecture and laboratory.
Just my two cents.
Intinction is actively discouraged by the English bishops. Communion in both kinds was rare before the 1980s and its arrival coincided with the recruitment of Extraordinary Monsters. It was all part of an episcopal plot to 'empower' women and their Lordships cheerfully admitted as much. At a liberal parish I know the PP (who had been ordained before the Council) permitted self-intinction, amid divers other abuses; when he retired his successor immediately put a stop to it.
As anyone who has dunked biscuits in his coffee can testify, intinction is not without its hazards, and there is a real danger of drops of the Precious Blood going astray. But at least it means Communion in the hand is no longer possible, and the EMs can be put to more profitable use; arranging the flowers and washing the linens if female, and assisting in the sanctuary if male.
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