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Sunday, February 16, 2025

ON SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 2025, WHAT DO TLM PARISHES KNOW THAT MOST MODERN MASS PARISHES DON’T KNOW AND IN FACT ARE CLUELESS?

 TLM MASS GOERS KNOW THAT ASH WEDNESDAY AND THE BEGINNING OF LENT IS ABOUT THREE WEEKS AWAY! MODERN MASS PARISHIONERS ARE CLUELESS. THE MODERNS WILL WAKE UP ON ASH WEDNESDAY AND REALIZE THEY AREN’T READY FOR LENT, ALMOST LIKE WAKING UP ON CHRISTMAS MORNING AND NOT REALIZING IT IS CHRISTMAS DAY ALREADY!—YIKES!!!!



7 comments:

TJM said...

Father McDonald,

Here is an interesting article from The New Liturgical Movement on this subject:

https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2025/02/the-antiquity-and-universality-of-fore.html

Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh said...

No, those of us who follow the traditional contemporary calendar are not "clueless" when it comes to the approaching season of Lent, nor will we be "unprepared." In these modern times, we have things like church bulletins that present information about the coming Lenten season. We have FaceBook, Instagram, etc., that can and do spread the information far and wide. We have pre-Lent teaching in our schools and adult education classes. One need not follow what you call the "traditional" seasons to know that Lent is approaching. (I might point out that this very day in my homily I spoke of the need to anticipate Lent and to make preparations for the season.)

TJM said...

As day follows night, Father Snarky arrives. “Traditional Contemporary” is an oxymoron. It is a calender cooked up by a committee that violates the express mandate of SS that no changes be made to the Liturgy which do not better the Church. Most of the changes that were made appear to benefit lazy clerics who did not want to learn Latin!

Nick said...

"Traditional contemporary" isn't an oxymoron when you define tradition as "moving forward" and other such jesuitical nonsense.

As for dropping Septuagesima, can we really say that it was truly for the good of the Church when the stated reasons for its suppression were (1) it's too hard to explain to stupid laity and (2) it's hard to pronounce? I kid you not--that's what the Consilium had to say about it.

Nick

TJM said...

Nick,

Spot on!

Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh said...

TJM - Not that you will have any realization of your error, but when you say, "Most of the changes that were made appear to benefit lazy clerics who did not want to learn Latin!" you fail to realize that if they were clerics, they already knew Latin.

Ol' Nick - The word "traditional" gets misused by folks here quite a bit, so I thought "Why not join the club?" There was a time when every traditional practice was novel, when it was not a universal practice, when people said, "Oh, that's just jesuitical nonsense."

Of course, no one has acknowledged the real point - that Fr. ALLAN McDonald's post makes no sense when there are many, many ways to introduce forewarn, or otherwise inform the faithful that Lent is just around the corner.

TJM said...

K, lol! Once Latin begin to be stripped out from the Mass, most seminarians stopped studying Latin. I know dozens of them who eventually were ordained who abandoned studying it as soon as they could. I call that lazy. I assume you could not celebrate Mass in Latin if your life depended on it! I know you never helped Father McDonald to give him a Sunday off!

Veterum Sapientia was issued because most priests on the eve of the Council were not competent in Latin. A close friend of mine taught seminarians Latin and Greek and told me he was pleased VS was issued. He hoped it would result in greater competency in the Latin language amongst the clergy.