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Wednesday, February 12, 2025

CONSISTENCY AND INCONSISTENCY—THE POPE FRANCIS PROBLEM


 Crux has a balanced commentary on Pope Francis rebukes of the non Catholic Trump and Catholic Vance. 

Read the FULL article HERE.

Here’s the best part:

For a pope to challenge the President of the United States so openly – and so early after his inauguration – is not merely remarkable. In reality, it is a seismic shift – and it only took 22 days from Trump’s inauguration.

Francis is already being challenged on two levels.

First, significant voices are asking why Trump gets a rebuke while other world leaders get a free pass.

Catholic scholar Samuel Gregg said, “In itself the pope’s statement about America and immigration is unobjectionable,” but added Francis “has a serious consistency problem.”

“For example,” Gregg wrote on X, “[Francis] has said nothing about the persecution of Catholics and other believers in Communist China, and has done a shameful deal with a totalitarian regime that has yielded nothing. Yet there is no letter to the bishops of China talking about the evil they have to confront every single day.”

Gregg also said Francis “regularly soft pedals any criticism of leftist regimes in Latin America and instead talks endlessly about dialogue,” and “did not single out the Biden administration for aggressively pushing abortion and the trans madness on the world,” a reference to Trump’s predecessor in office.

37 comments:

TJM said...

You’ll need a bigger blog for this topic!

TJM said...

Father McDonald,

This is a must read for you.

https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2025/02/a-sick-elderly-francis-hates-america.html

Jerome Merwick said...

Maybe a better headline would be 'CATHOLIC AND NOT CATHOLIC--THE POPE FRANCIS PROBLEM'

TJM said...

Maybe Pope Francis or the USCCB will finally condemn the Democratic Party. K will be proud of this Party Activist who brutally murdered an elderly pro-lifer:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/baltimore-pro-abortion-activist-convicted-brutally-assaulting-elderly/

TJM said...

Father McDonald,

I think this article dovetails nicely with your own thinking. Father Miscamble is originally from Australia and has taught at the University of Notre Dame for some time. Maybe you have a contact in Rome that can get this to Santita!

https://irishrover.net/2025/02/true-men-keeping-the-faith-25-years-on/

TJM said...

This will sadden the Pope and K: SuperTrump getting peace talks going:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/defense-secretary-hegseth-tells-nato-restoration-of-pre-invasion-ukrainian-borders-is-unrealistic/

President Trump has done more in less than a month more than Grifter Biden did in 4 years

TJM said...

I guess "Synodality" is NOT reviving the Catholic Church in Germany. Maybe Pope Francis should pay them a visit:

"Currently, there are 20,345,872 Catholics registered in Germany. If trends persist, the number could drop below 20 million in 2024.

Moreover, only 6.2% of Catholics regularly attend Mass: This translates to approximately 1.27 million practicing Catholics in a country of over 80 million, CNA Deutsch noted."

Yes, the World should definitely listen to the German Catholic Church for advice!!! The Novus Ordo is really packing them in!!!!

TJM said...

Another triumph for a real leader and his administration. Braindead grifter Biden and Kamala were fakes, frauds, who could never have done this. See what JD Vance is up to. K, please don't look, it might give you another reason for committing suicide. Your fantasy world is crumbling along with the "ladies" on The View!

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2025/02/12/indian-pm-modi-celebrates-wonderful-meeting-jd-vance-family/

TJM said...

Father McDonald,

Next time you see K you might want to share with him this article which demonstrates why the Dems lost in November.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/02/12/massachusetts-town-votes-become-sanctuary-city-transgender-gender-diverse-people/

I would send a post of this news from the New York Times or the Washington Post but for some reason they do not want to share this news with the American people!

TJM said...

SuperTrump defeating the corrupt lesbian in charge of the “Teachers Union.” K has the sads!

https://www.newsweek.com/doge-announces-its-slashing-881m-education-department-contracts-live-updates-2029353

TJM said...

Father McDonald,

Father Z has an interesting take on the Pope's latest salvo fired at the Trump Administration (more bilge from Rome) on illegal aliens but here is a taste:

"As I read this, with great respect to the sentiment and to Pius XII, it occurs to me that there are differences between what we see in the Holy Family and what we see today in the movement of peoples, especially at the US southern border.

St. Joseph obeyed the civil law by responding to the census.
The Holy Family did not leave the jurisdiction of the Romans. Egypt was a province of the Empire.
In travelling to Egypt the road was a trade route secured by Legio II “Cyrenaica”, not by human trafficking cartels. They didn’t have to sneak into Egypt.
St. Joseph worked for a living and did not receive government hand outs, hotels and free cellphones.
St. Joseph, so far as we know, didn’t have a criminal record, wasn’t a fugitive from justice or a violent gang member with multiple convictions.
Nor was Mary.
“Jesus lived the drama of immigration” – really “emigration”, no?
Jesus also lived the drama of going home.
Also, correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t what the Trump administration doing, even by the Church’s own teaching, “repatriation” and not “deportation”? "

TJM said...

One of Father Z's readers who lives in Italy had this to say about the Pope:

"I live in Italy, where Bergoglio’s fanaticism for open borders has been devastating. Every day we witness new atrocities committed by the young males from the Muslim world invited into Italy by Bergoglio (and brought! One of the people-trafficking boat operations in the Mediterranean is directly funded by the Vatican and Italian Bishops Conference). Meanwhile Caritas collects billions from the Italian government to manage the reception centers for the illegal immigrants pouring in.

Pope Francis sits in his walled enclave wagging his hypocritical finger while Italians get raped, robbed, assaulted and displaced in their own communities as Italian cities become unrecognisable.

Any word from Bergoglio for the poor Italian policewoman this week who had her finger BITTEN OFF by a Gambian migrant after he was challenged for riding a train without a valid ticket? For the women this week RAPED by migrants in Milan, Rome, Bolzano and elsewhere? For the souls of the poor people nearly BEHEADED in a church in Nice by a jihadi migrant brought in via Lampedusa (whose trial for triple murder began yesterday)?

No. Not a word. Only filthy hypocrisy from a morally bankrupt pope."

I guess not everyone in Italy thinks the Pope is holy, holy !

TJM said...

And a commenter at Rorate Caeli Blog sums it up nicely:


"It is out of tune with the Catholic lay faithful of America as well: the practicing devout faithful voted overwhelmingly for the present Administration, whose plans for solving the actual mass migration crisis were never hidden in the campaign trail. (Quite the opposite: it can be said that the actual practice of the nascent administration is much more lenient than the words used in the campaign.) These Catholics have been alienated from the hierarchy for decades: from liturgical scandals to the child abuse crisis, and, for the past 12 years, a Vatican that simply despises the United States."

Francis, who never sent any letter to the bishops of the United States regarding the grave horror of Trans and gender ideology, and abortion up to birth, things that were actually happening (yes, he mentioned them elsewhere, but never in a specific letter to the nation whose government was spreading the disease around the world) -- now sends a letter on "mass deportations" that are not happening!

TJM said...

Immigration is Big Business for Catholic "Charities". As they say, follow the money:

https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/biden-immigration-policies-were-boon-catholic-charities-which-raked?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter

TJM said...

Will Pope Francis send President Trump a thank you note, K?

https://www.foxnews.com/world/hamas-free-more-israeli-hostages-saturday-originally-planned

TJM said...

Another reason Trump won. Another example of Dem identity politics from a Dem congressman whose husband went to jail for check kiting:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/rep-jan-schakowsky-suggests-women-might-not-pursue/

TJM said...

Here is a nice summary of Dem lawlessness and contempt for the rule of law:


These states like New York, like California, like Illinois, cities like Chicago, cities like New York City, like Los Angeles have engaged in a vast nullification scheme, frustrating, defying and disobeying federal immigration law. They have harbored illegal aliens in violation of federal law. They have concealed from authorities illegal aliens and gang members who are guilty of the most heinous crimes.

And, of course, the previous administration, the Biden administration funded and subsidized all of that criminality. They sent hundreds of millions of dollars to hotels in New York City to house illegal aliens, including criminal aliens, including the illegal alien who murdered Laken Riley.

They sponsored the bloodshed. The Biden administration and these Democrat cities and Americans elected Donald Trump overwhelmingly because they believe that President Trump and they know that President Trump will put them and their families and their communities first, and that is what he has done in the most spectacular fashion for these last three weeks.

TJM said...

In summary:

The Democrats have learned nothing from the historic resounding defeat they suffered at the hands of Donald Trump. They are acting like clowns. They're embarrassing themselves. They're humiliating themselves.

They're out there holding protests so that we can send more foreign aid, to foreign nations, to push diversity, equity and inclusion policies, to open our borders to criminal aliens? They look like fools and Donald Trump looks more brilliant and more genius every single day as he's implementing his agenda and it's working and our lives are getting better by the minute

TJM said...

With the graft and wasted dollars drying up, Dem officials call for violence and actual weapons!!! K, care to defend?

https://www.foxnews.com/media/california-democrat-says-party-needs-bring-actual-weapons-fight-democracy-against-elon-musk

TJM said...

Hey K, the smart money (NYSE) is moving to Texas. Another loss for the city you claim you want to move to!! Maybe you should consider Texas instead in retirement. You could live in a border town so you could minister to illegal aliens trying to come across the border!

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/new-york-stock-exchange-plans-exchange-pro-business-texas

Nick said...

Think you got enough links there, TJM?

Nick

TJM said...

I am trying to save the errant priest’s soul!

TJM said...

Time to strip the Church of its tax exempt status since they are now engaged in leftwing politics. But since they are already chasing members away with their political, leftwing bilge, they are toast anyway.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/newly-appointed-detroit-archbishop-suggested-canonical-penalties-for-trump-immigration-officials/

TJM said...

I think it’s time to turn off the lights with an intellectually bankrupt loon like this!

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/newly-appointed-detroit-archbishop-suggested-canonical-penalties-for-trump-immigration-officials/

TJM said...

Hey, K will go wild over this!

https://nypost.com/2025/02/13/us-news/illegal-border-crossings-hit-record-lows-could-be-on-track-for-levels-not-seen-for-60-years/

TJM said...

This will sadden K, the Pope and the USCCB because the President is Trump rather than the evil Democratic abortion droolers!

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/02/13/exclusive-defense-secretary-pete-hegseth-nuclear-weapons-ukraine-president-donald-trump/

TJM said...

Dems putting the safety of Americans last. If you still vote Dem you are officially braindead and an insurrectionist

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/02/13/jeffries-new-york-is-being-targeted-wont-be-intimidated-by-suit-over-tipping-off-illegals/

Nick said...

Fr. AJM,

Have you considered a comment-per-day limit?

TJM,

This is not the way.

Nick

TJM said...

Nick,

Just trying to educate the lefties! I’ can live with making one comment a day if we also restrict cut and paste holy, holies!

Mark said...

TJM:

Do you fact check the sources you link? For accuracy? For context? If not, I would ask you to kindly do so as an additional service for us. The rest of us do not have time to keep up. It would be a full-time job.

I will do one, however—your post at 8:59 a.m. on February 13.

Compare the following two sources with the one you link:

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/261991/cna-explains-how-the-catholic-church-partners-with-the-us-government-to-serve-migrants

https://apnews.com/article/jd-vance-catholic-bishops-migration-94138954824b68dbd0b29b28504e056e

From the AP piece:

“But Vance’s blast at the bishops conference stung.

Vance called himself a ‘devout Catholic’ who was disappointed bishops have ‘not been a good partner in common sense immigration enforcement.’ He claimed they took $100 million ‘to help resettle illegal immigrants.’

Dolan, on his SiriusXM show, called the statements harmful.

‘That’s just scurrilous, it’s very nasty, and it’s not true,’ Dolan said. The bishops conference is one of 10 national U.S. organizations that resettle refugees, who have been legally brought to the country under decades-old policy until Trump paused the program. Dolan said government grants don’t match expenses and are supplemented by private donations.

‘You think we make money on it? We’re losing it hand over fist,’ Dolan said, adding that he hoped better from Vance in the future.”

Mark J.

TJM said...

Mark J,

Considering the Vatican's penchant for lying (sex scandals, par example), I am more inclined to believe Vice President Vance. I have grave doubts that the Catholic Church and her agencies are properly vetting whom they assist. As a matter of fact, most of them do not care because they align politically with the Left. Just check the Archdiocese of Chicago for a myriad examples of that.

TJM said...

Speaking of Vance, this is Comedy Gold and will trigger certain types:

https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2025/02/17/dear-germany-using-a-limp-rag-doll-please-point-to-where-the-mean-vance-man-hurt-you-n3799893

TJM said...

Speaking of lying, this little tid bit emerged about “Bishop” Budde, the faux bishop of Washington, DC. Apparently her son, and by extension her, is a Democrat Party operative.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/surprise-son-woke-anti-trump-bishop-mariann-budde/

She is not exactly as pure as the driven snow!

Mark said...

Not good enough, TJM. Let Vance show his evidence, if he has any, not just make bald unsupported assertions.

Mark J.

Mark said...

Lots of Trump voters voted for Obama in the pre-Trump era:

https://www.newsweek.com/barack-obama-donald-trump-voters-2024-election-education-income-1982579

As for the ICC, it does some good work albeit facing some setbacks and challenges:

https://lens.civicus.org/20-years-of-the-international-criminal-court/#.

This said, it would not surprise me at all if Bishop Budde supports the Democratic Party.

Even so, where is the lying exactly?

Mark J.

TJM said...

Mark J,

Tom Homan provided the Pope a "teaching moment:"

https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2025/02/17/the-churchs-dysfunctional-culture-of-respect-and-obedience/

TJM said...

Budde acting like she is some disinterested cleric when she is a shill for the Party of Intrinsic Evil