Please note how this form of the TLM has such close cultural connections, an ethos, with the Byzantine forms of the Liturgy!
I’ve a friend who is Russian Orthodox, I introduced him to Pope Francis some years ago more than ten years ago. They exchanged numbers.
I’ve always told him that we are very desirous of keeping a space in the church … for the old liturgy, which was similar in many ways to the Byzantine liturgy. He has appreciated this because he too is [Russian] Orthodox.
I said “tell the Pope that when you’re communicating with him because there are rumors that he may want to actually abolish the old liturgy, in a way that Joseph Ratzinger suggested was not even possible to do.”
He said he communicated with the Pope this past summer and told him that there were so many good, young people in America and other countries who love the old liturgy and they didn’t love it as a kind of sign of their anger against him, but simply because they love Jesus. They wanted to draw close to Him and the liturgy did that. And it was very similar to the way that simple people in Russia drew to the liturgy in the 1600’s, when the Old Believers were condemned because they wanted to keep the same, old liturgy and not the reformed liturgy in the 1660’s in Russia.
So this Russian told the Pope these things and the Pope said to him “I’ve got the text on my desk. They’ve told me that I should sign, but since you’ve told me all this, I won’t sign.”
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The Novus Ordo is brand X , a failure, kept going by lazy clergy who do not want to learn Latin. Thank God, our three local pastors in their 30s are not lazy and they can celebrate Mass in Latin
Agree. This is an ethos consideration. The externals and chant demonstrate kinship, some of the mass itself is different from Divine Liturgy. I find it interesting that the Roman epiclesis proceeds the Canon, our epiclesis is towards the end of the Anaphora. Same end, different timing.
Similarly, there are portions of the NO that have a Byzantine flavor, thinking of the Prayer of the Faithful I believe it's called which is close to our litanies as well as Eucharistic Prayer 3 or 4, I can't remember which as its been a while. As you rightly noted, Fr. AJM, sterility quickly ends any additional comparisons.
The TLM without question is a world-class equivalent to Divine Liturgy. Conjecture, true, it's just how I feel.
Beautifully stated!
Cowards, evil men, or both? You decide!
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2024/12/french-bishops-paper-vatican.html#more
While I am glad for the outcome this story does not elevate the reputation of Pope Francis.
So is the Dominican Rite, Sir Byz. 😀
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