Let me qualify my title. Make no mistake, there is an agenda, a political/religious one, at work in the self-referential Synod on Synodality (Pope Francis’ Description of what his synod on synodality is) that requires those manipulating the outcome of the synod in a heterodox pastoral way to hoodwink innocent Catholics into thinking that their heterodox pastoral outcome is what the Holy Spirit wants.
In other words, the heterodox are using the Holy Spirit to manipulate Catholics and others of good will. At the least, using God to manipulate people to accept purely human ideologies is to take the Lord’s Most Holy Name in vain. That’s a mortal sin to do and the Holy Spirit will not be mocked!
In my most humble opinion, this borders on or is the sin of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. If I am wrong in my stated opinion, then certainly attributing to the Holy Spirit what the predetermined outcome of the synod will be, is the mortal sin of presumption.
Clergy and laity today are too smart for this kind of rhetoric come from Archbishop Fernandez or the pope.
But, here is a really great commentary on all the chaos being created in today’s Church causing alarm in many faithful Catholics, ecstasy in heterodox Catholics and for those trying hard to make sense out of their own chaotic lives, disengaging altogether from the Catholic Church which now only increases their anxiety and personal confusion. Who, in the hell, wants more chaos and confusion in their lives and in this world? Satan, of course, not the Holy Spirit.
But please read this great commentary in the National Catholic Register by Vatican
The Holy Spirit and the Synod on Synodality
COMMENTARY: To insist that the Holy Spirit is always present in synodal structures or in this synodal process is a case that has to be made, not simply asserted
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This is all you need to know about Pope Francis. He's a leftist who enjoys Hanging around with a pervert who abuses women, like Clinton.
The Clinton Global Initiative (CGI) 2023, scheduled for September 18-19 in New York City, has announced that Pope Francis will be attending the summit together with other globalists to discuss topics like climate change, gender-based violence, and long-term reconstruction efforts in Ukraine.
Pope Francis will kick off the event with a special conversation with Bill Clinton. Paging Father K Orwell, Paging Father K Orwell
Father Raymond de Souza article in question is stunning in its failure to have recognized the following:
Pope Francis, bishops in communion with His Holiness, as well as laymen among the Holy People of God who have participated in the Synodal process directly/prayful support — sensus fidelium — have testified that the Synod/Synodal process has been driven by the Holy Ghost.
Is Father de Souza is unaware that Father McDonald's bishop(s), my bishop, bishop after bishop throughout the Church, proclaimed the Synod/Synodal process a holy success? Said bishops have testified that the Synod/Synodal process has produced good fruit.
Perhaps the following may prove helpful to Father Raymond de Souza:
SYNODALITY IN THE LIFE AND MISSION OF THE CHURCH
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_cti_20180302_sinodalita_en.html
Father Raymond de Souza, via his weak, lame, article in question, has continued his unfortunate attack upon the Synod/Synodal process.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Just as the Holy Father wants to listen to LGBTQ+++ Catholics, those who love or hate the Church, His Holiness wants to listen to the voice of Fr. de Souza as the Synodal Process still has another full year to go before Pope Francis writes his document on it. It is unfortunate that you want to neutralize his voice or is it his pen?
Father McDonald, in regard to your following statement: "It is unfortunate that you want to neutralize his voice or is it his pen?"
It is my great desire that Father Raymond de Souza join Holy Mother Church's effort to advance with fervor the Holy Ghost-driven Synod/process. Unfortunately, Father de Souza has, time and again, trashed the Synod/Synodal process.
Via his latest attack upon the Synod/process, Father de Souza has attempted to neutralize the Holy Ghost's presence in regard to the Synod/process.
Pope Francis welcomes Father Raymond de Souza's joyful participation in regard to the Synod/process. Instead, Father de Souza has attacked, as well as mocked, the Holy-Ghost-driven Synodal process.
I have not "neutralized" Father de Souza's "voice," as well as "pen," in regard to the Synodal process. It is Father de Souza who has inflicted that upon himself.
Father Raymond de Souza has, time and again, demonstrated that he is not a reliable source in regard to commentary related to the Synod/process.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
MT, the Holy Ghost works through those who oppose the mistakes of Pope Francis, such as TC, the horrible mistake Pope Francis is making and has made with the Ukrainian Eastern Church and other missteps by the Holy Father. This is what the major Archbishop of the Ukrainian Church said in an interview with Vatican News about Pope Francis (it’s on the Vatican News website):
I admired the humility of Pope Francis. He was well aware of his own faults, his own not very clear expressions. And he corrected himself. To be able to correct yourself in the presence of your brother bishops - that is a sign of deep humility.
And among other things, he wished to listen to us, not only to myself, to the head of the Church, but he gave a possibility, an open floor, for each one of 45 bishops to speak out in behalf of the simple, wounded, disappointed people of Ukraine.
And this mutual dialogue, a capability to listen to, ministry of listening, was something which for us, wounded by the war, was a healing moment.
It’s not just the Ukrainians who are correct about the pope’s incorrect ways of dealing with things, and I pray that through the synodal process, the Holy Spirit will correct Pope Francis. I have great hope for that.
Father McDonald, to receive a reliable rendering of the Synodal process:
I turn to your bishop(s). I turn to my bishop. I turn to bishop after bishop throughout Holy Mother Church.
I turn to the Vicar of Christ, Pope Francis.
I do not turn to Father Raymond de Souza.
His renderings of the Synodal process have differed greatly from the collective renderings of the Synodal process as delineated by the above-mentioned Churchmen.
Father McDonald, I have confidence in that which your bishop(s), my bishop, as well as His Holiness, Pope Francis, has declared in regard to the Holy Ghost-driven Synodal process.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
MT, I just went back and read De Souza’s commentary. Did you read it or scan it? I am confused by your commentary on what he wrote. The entire article, Fr. De Souza quotes Pope Francis, Fr. James Martin, Cardinal Cupich and Cardinal McElroy. He makes some other quotes, asks some questions with obvious answers.
Since De Souza is quoting the pope and others, is it them with whom you disagree????
Or is it his final comment that you excoriate, which is merely an observation and it is this?
To insist that the Holy Spirit is alive and in the Church is simply to be Catholic. However, to insist that he is always present in synodal structures, or in this synodal process on synodality for a synodal Church, is a case that has to be made, not simply asserted.
MT, I am baffled by your comments since the last part is really De Souza’s question, the other parts are quotes from others, to include the pope and valid questions about other synods making mistakes.
I hope you will read De Souza’s articles and speak directly to that which you do not agree.
Father McDonald, I have read the article in question — three times. I had planned to address the following in regard to Father Raymond de Souza having quoted Pope Francis:
To cast doubt upon the Synodal process, Father de Souza quoted Pope Francis:
“I am well aware that speaking of a ‘Synod on Synodality’ may seem something abstruse, self-referential, excessively technical, and of little interest to the general public.”
Please note that Pope Francis had referenced the "general public."
Father de Souza had failed to emphasized the context of the above quote. That is, Pope Francis had emphasized attitude of the "general public." Father de Souza had employed the quotation in question to attempt to demonstrate that Pope Francis has undermined the Synodal process.
Pope Francis had made it clear that the general public's understanding of the Synodal process differs greatly from that of the Church's understanding in question.
Pope Francis' quotation in question has not undermined the Synodal process.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Father McDonald said..."I hope you will read De Souza’s articles and speak directly to that which you do not agree."
I did. I disagreed with Father Raymond de Souza's comments in regard to whether the Holy Ghost is present within the Synodal process.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Maybe Mark Thomas should ask his Golden Calf to talk to Biden about this:
"Three more pro-life activists were found guilty on Friday and immediately incarcerated for their role in an abortion clinic blockade that took place in Washington, DC, in October of 2020.
Pro-life activists Joan Andrews Bell, 74; Jonathan Darnel, 40; and Jean Marshall, 72, were found guilty of violating the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act and conspiracy against rights for blocking access to the Washington Surgi-Clinic, a clinic infamous for late-term abortions. The guilty verdict comes after five other pro-life activists involved in the same blockade were found guilty on all charges in late August."
The Pope won't say a word, he is too busy promoting Climate Change Fantasies and Illegal Aliens. He certainly won't ask why no DOJ prosecutions for burning Churches and attacking Pro Life Centers.
Sophia here: In this week's ( 9/14/23) "World Over", Raymond Arroyo speaks with Canon Lawyer Fr. Gerald Murray about Ed Pentin's interview with Cardinal Designate Victor Manuel Fernandez as well as about Bishop Strickland's investigation, the Visitation of both Archbishop Gomez (LA) and Bishop Kevin Vann (Orange County)for their non-compliance with TC,
and the upcoming Synod. Fr. Murray's responses are, as always- clear, unambiguous, illuminating, compelling, bold, quite orthodox (vs heterodox).
Then at minute 38 on this video, Raymond has another equally excellent interview with Dr. Regis Martin, Professor of Theology at Franciscan U. of Steubenville about his article "Put an End to the Madness" in Crisis Magazine. Dr. Martin too is quite candid/pulls no punches as he discusses the multiple assaults on the Deposit of Faith by some Bishops/Cardinals without being stopped. He attributes the lack of a more vigorous, effective push back to "a two -fold crisis-a crisis of faith, people don't know what to believe. Then there is a crisis of courage which afflicts many Bishops and Cardinals...", which he finds "quite shocking". He asserts that not since the (4th C) Arian Heresy has there been such a "Systemic silence in the face of such a full- throated assault on the basic teaching of the Church".
There is much more to these interviews so here is the "World Over" link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YpgHEfj8R8
And here is Dr. Regis Martin's article.
https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/put-an-end-to-the-madness
Sophia here: Deo Gratias! Bishop Athanasius Schneider's great letter of support to Bishop Strickland.
Opening paragraph- it's all uphill after this.
'Your Excellency, Bishop Strickland, dear and esteemed brother in the episcopate!
It is for me a privilege and a joy to express to you all my gratitude and appreciation for your intrepid dedication to uncompromisingly keep, transmit and defend the Catholic faith, which the Apostles handed over to the Church and with which all the generations of Catholics, especially our ancestors, our fathers and mothers, our priests and religious sisters-catechists were themselves nurtured. In all truth we can apply to you, dear Bishop Strickland, what St. Basil once stated in his time: “The one charge which is now sure to secure severe punishment is the careful keeping of the traditions of the Fathers.” (Ep. 243)'
video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdzVgGgqVK8
transcript:
https://www.gloriadei.io/to-the-confessor-fidei-of-tyler/
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