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Wednesday, July 6, 2016

IS POPE FRANCIS STARTING TO SHOW HIS MORE ORTHODOX SIDE?

Robert Cardinal Sarah says Pope Francis wants him to study the "reform of the reform" and the good Cardinal asks all priests to celebrate Mass "ad orientem" by the First Sunday of Advent. This is rather revolutionary and more so than Summorum Pontificum if you ask me. Of course there is no official document from Rome requiring this. But I can't imagine Cardinal Sarah making this request which has gone viral without Pope Francis being apprised of it.

Then we saw late last month that the Vatican is calling some ultra-liberal religious orders in the USA to a dialogue about their heterodox policies and teachings. I thought the case against these heterodox orders was closed, but evidently not. And there is much anxiety among them with this turn of events.

Certainly the Prefect for the Congregations of Religious life has Pope Francis' backing in doing this and reopening what was thought to be now a closed door.

READ FOR YOURSELF:

Sisters of Mercy also being asked to come to Rome for conversation

by Dawn Araujo-Hawkins
Jul. 5, 2016

Apostolic Visitation

The Sisters of Mercy, the largest order of women religious in the United States, are among the communities being asked to come to Rome for further conversation following the apostolic visitation, Global Sisters Report has learned. The community's communications director, Susan Carroll, confirmed the report by email but said there would be no further comment at this point.

The Vatican's congregation for religious life is contacting about 15 U.S. orders of Catholic sisters to clarify "some points" following the controversial six-year investigation of American communities of women religious, the head of the congregation said June 14.

Cardinal João Bráz de Aviz, prefect of the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life, said the conversations involve "listening to what they say in a transparent way, without fear, without judging."

The cardinal spoke to National Catholic Reporter after it reported his congregation had requested that the leaders of the Kentucky-based Sisters of Loretto come to Rome in October. Loretto president Sr. Pearl McGivney has been asked to explain "ambiguity" in the order's adherence to church teaching and its way of living religious life.

The investigation of U.S. sisters' communities, known formally as an apostolic visitation, began in 2008 and concluded with release of a final report in December 2014. It involved inquiry into 341 female religious institutes in the U.S. that include an estimated 50,000 women.

In a June 9 statement to GSR, McGivney said she received a letter from Bráz de Aviz on April 15. According to a letter she wrote to members of her order, which GSR obtained, the Loretto president has been asked to come to Rome on Oct. 18 to report on five "areas of concern" following the visitation process. The contents of both her letter and the letter from Bráz de Aviz can be found in this earlier GSR report.

Last month, GSR identified two other communities of U.S. Catholic sisters being asked to provide the Vatican with further clarification in the aftermath of a controversial investigation: the Sisters of Charity of the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondelet.

Sr. Teri Hadro, president of the Sisters of Charity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, said her community received a letter from the congregation in early April asking the sisters for written response to the office's continued concern over the order's "public dissent of church teaching."

"It's a very friendly letter," Hadro said. "It's just that I think they tend to interpret things as dissent that really aren't dissent."

For example, Hadro continued, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has spent the last decade making abortion its primary cause. Meanwhile, U.S. women religious have focused on issues like food, water and shelter for marginalized populations.

"Because we focus on those issues and not on right to life from conception forward, our silence is being interpreted as dissent," Hadro said. "I don't think that's the understanding that women religious have. We probably have the same top 10 values and priorities as the bishops, but in different order. And it seems to me that there's some beauty in that, because our role in the church is different from that of the bishops."

Yet she said she's not angry or resentful about this turn of events. She said her community will provide the Vatican with a written response to its concerns, and the community will seek advice as they do so.

Like the Loretto Sisters, the Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondelet have been asked to appear in Rome. In a statement, posted to their website, the leadership team said they had been invited for a "prayerful conversation" about "a few points mentioned in the letter." The statement did not say what those points were, and congregational leaders declined to say anything beyond the issued statement.

A copy of the subsequent letter sent by leadership to Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondelet sisters was obtained by GSR, the contents of which can be found here.

It is not yet known which other orders of U.S. women religious have been contacted by the Vatican congregation.

Bráz de Aviz acknowledged that some U.S. sisters have expressed frustration with the beginning of the apostolic visitation process, saying it initially did not involve dialogue with them or consideration of their history in leading and supporting the U.S. Catholic church.

"We know the problems with the beginning of the visitation,"he said. "Before was not good."

"I would say [the follow-up] is being done with more attention because before, it would have been easy to have an unnecessary rift," he said. "Truly, it is not necessary."

[Dawn Araujo-Hawkins is a Global Sisters Report staff writer based in Kansas City, Missouri.]

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

Pa-leassssssssse! To answer your question Father, NO! Pope Francis is not showing his orthodox side. For god sake the man just said that people fornicating together is a marriage and they receive sacramental grace. Nothing will happen to those nuns. It's ridiculous that you even bring this up.

Mark Thomas said...

Father McDonald, perhaps the following will interest you and your many readers:

http://www.ccwatershed.org/blog/2016/jul/6/francis-cardinal-sarah-investigate-reform/

Father David Friel said that at the current Sacra Liturgia UK conference, "speaking about the real possibility of an official reform of the reform, Cardinal Sarah made reference to a “learned study” given by Fr. Thomas Kocik at Sacra Liturgia USA 2015 in New York City. In his presentation, Fr. Kocik proposed practical ideas for what such a reform might look like. Some of his specific suggestions are reported here."

In June 2015 A.D., Father Friel said the following about the study that Cardinal Sarah referenced a couple of days ago:

http://www.ccwatershed.org/blog/2015/jun/3/sacra-liturgia-2015-update-ii/

"The morning’s first lecture was delivered by Rev. Thomas Kocik, former editor of the journal Antiphon. The title of the talk was simply, “The Reform of the Reform.” Father Kocik’s fundamental assertion was that any authentic reform of the reform must begin with the Extraordinary Form as the point of departure, not the Ordinary Form.

"In the course of his presentation, Father Kocik also listed a number of practical ideas for how a priest might transform his celebration of the Ordinary Form. Among his ideas were these:"

1. Use the rite of blessing for water, with the proper chants, in place of the Penitential Act.

2. Employ the proper chants during each of the processions.

3. Chant the orations, prefaces, & the Gospel.

4. Use incense on every Sunday & solemnity, not just on special occasions.

5. Omit the intercessions on weekdays.

6. Opt for a silent preparation of the gifts.

7. Do not neglect the Latin language.

8. After catechesis, introduce the celebration of Mass ad orientem. [In the interim, consider using the “Benedictine arrangement.”]

9. Wear black vestments for funerals, All Souls Day, and other Masses for the Dead.

10. Do not omit the optional sequences.

11. Occasionally use the Gradual instead of the Responsorial Psalm.

12. Utilize the full complement of Votive Masses in the Missal.

13. Use the Roman Canon.

14. Bow your head at the names of the Trinity, the BVM, and the saint of the day.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

TJM said...

Sadly, the Sisters of Mercy are putting themselves out business. They have no vocations and are rapidly aging. Maybe Rome just wants their property list for the big fire sale.

Anonymous said...

I agree with TJM or perhaps they are being asked if they would like to be deaconesses!

TJM said...

Jan, gads!!!! I never thought of that

Mark Thomas said...

From Catholic World Report: "The following may not be entirely complete, as parts of the address given by His Eminence Robert Cardinal Sarah, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, have been posted on the "Sacra Liturgia" Facebook page. This page will be updated accordingly."

http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Blog/4902/cardinal_robert_sarahs_address_towards_an_authentic_implementation_of_sacrosanctum_concilium.aspx

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Anonymous said...

Baptist Question: Baptists take the bible literally. The spoken word of God. (I am a Baptist) I do not always agree with my church and I notice from reading here that many Catholics also disagree among themselves. I think disagreements are ok as long as we help each other understand God better. This is my ironic question... My Church takes the Bible literally. Adam and Eve were real, the Garden of Eden was real..... etc The Baptist say what God said he meant. Take him at his literal word. (this bothered me many times and Father K has helped me to understand and Iotally agree with the Catholics on this one) But isn't this interesting..... Baptist take the Bible as the literal word of God and yet when you ask them about the bread and wine they say "oh that is only a symbol He did not mean to really eat flesh and blood" But everything else to them is Literal..... On the other hand the Catholics say the Bible is not to be taken literally. They use the example of Adam and Eve (and btw I agree) But.... when they discuss the bread and wine in the Catholic church then this is not to be taken literally in other words the bread becomes the body and the wine the actual blood. No disrespect to either faith but do any of you find this interesting? Everything seems literal to one except for communion it is a symbol and for the other most of the Bible is not literal "they are symbols" except for communion. I am a baptist but I do agree on this one with Catholics. I think we Baptists have missed the point on communion.

Catechist Kev said...

Dear Anonymous @ 10:47, July 6th,

I would encourage you to read the following book by a former Baptist.

https://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Tiber-Evangelical-Protestants-Historical/dp/0898705770/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1467883418&sr=1-1&keywords=crossing+the+tiber+stephen+ray

According to your comments above - I think you may find the book rather interesting.

God bless you,
Catechist Kev

Anonymous said...

Mons Pope has had this to say about one of Francis's latest comments:

"Msgr. Pope, who has led Bible studies at the White House and Congress in recent years and is pastor of Holy Comforter-St. Cyprian Church in Washington, also took exception to the Pope’s characterization of priests who were rigoristic as “animals” who are guilty of “pastoral cruelty” toward parishioners.

“Such a word should never have come out of his mouth, and I would hope for an apology for this offensive characterization, not merely a Vatican ‘clarification,’” he wrote. “I certainly have some differences with brother priests, I would call my differences with dissenting priests significant. But this does not permit me to call them animals, and the Pope, who seems to have done so, has no business doing it either.

“Admittedly, the recorded comments are hard to follow, but the cleansed Vatican transcript is more in the mode of ‘Let’s pretend this was never said as recorded’ rather than a clear denial — 'The Pope wants to say he not consider priest animals, even though he thinks some are too hard-lined on this matter.'"

He later added, “I pray that never again will we hear reported such a rude and unnecessary remark from this Pope or any Pope. No human person should be called an animal by a pope or anyone, for that matter. Metaphors and similes have their place in human discourse, but to univocally call a fellow human being an animal is out of line.”

I have complained a number of times about Francis's disrespectful comments about priests. This latest comment is an all time low in my book and congratulations to Mons Pope for calling it like it is ... a new one no doubt for "The Little Book of Insults" which no doubt will have to be renamed "The Omnibus of Insults" and to that should be added the word "uncouth".

rcg said...

Anon @ 10:47 - Fr McDonald has commented here on the unbloody nature of Communion. You might search for that. I think you may be addressing the incomprehensible nature of our Creator. It isnt so much that there are contradictions in what you read as that words fail us. I comfort myself with the understanding of the Real Presence in the consecrated Specis with the idea that God has turned all of creation to the task of providing for us. To some degree all of it is His body. But we would go insane trying to comprehend and live in that construct. So He becomes present and revealed to us in simple bread and wine to feed our most succinct selves: our souls. It is a Mystery that constantly brings wonder and joy. You might also contemplate why He consecrated bread and wine and not, say, water and fruit. That is an intriguing meditation as well.

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johnnyc said...

Anonymous Baptist.....in reality there is only one Church that being the Catholic Church. We have to start there because the Bible did not fall down from the sky. Jesus did not leave any instructions on the content of the Bible. He did not intend for every man for himself go figure it out. What He did do was establish the Catholic Church and gave her the Authority to teach without error on matters of faith, morals and worship. In fact the only way you know that what is in your Bible belongs in your Bible is because the Catholic Church, inspired by the Holy Spirit, decreed it (and btw you need to have all of Scripture the way God intended it :) ).

So if you have questions on how to read Scripture it would make sense to go to the Church that Jesus established for the answer.....take special note of the section called senses of Scripture

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s1c2a3.htm


As far as individuals inside the Church disagreeing well that is another matter. The Church that Christ established, the Catholic Church, is perfect. Those within not so much lol.

Jon said...

Father,

What on earth possesses you to be an apologist of any kind for this man?

That's what today's naming of Cupich to the Congregation of Bishop's was - orthodoxy?

Please stop. It's embarrassing.

Anonymous said...

Not only is Monsignor Pope speaking out against Francis's recent comments but an EWTN panel has done the same calling the Pope's comments reckless and departing from tradition:

"On EWTN’s June 23 World Over program hosted by Raymond Arroyo, canon lawyer Father Gerald Murray and author and editor-in-chief of The Catholic Thing Robert Royal respectfully yet candidly dissected Pope Francis’s recent comments on the validity of Christian marriages, cohabitation, and certain priests being “animals.”

Arroyo’s thoughtful questions prompted Murray and Royal to offer their takes on Pope Francis’s recent claim that the “great majority” of Christian marriages are invalid yet some cohabitating couples show “fidelity” and are in “real marriages.” Murray and Royal reiterated their respect for Pope Francis and his office, but spoke plainly about what they perceive as his “reckless” and errant words.

Arroyo began by pointing out that Pope Francis’s claim that the “great majority” of Christian marriages are invalid “is at odds with the traditional Church teaching on marriage and the nature of that commitment involved.”


Without naming names The Catholic World Report has also stated:

"leading some to criticize ... the priests ... by labeling them “pastorally cruel” or even, sadly, “animals” ... Priests, like everyone else on this earth, need instruction not insults."

A recent interview with an Argentine publication reported:

Some church leaders do not agree with his approach, but "I continue my course without looking over my shoulder," he said, adding that he does not try to silence them. "I don't cut off heads. I've never liked doing that."

Besides, he said, he's the pope. "You remove nails by putting pressure on the top. Or you set them aside to rest when they reach retirement age."




With Francis in the Vatican we need to pray fervently: "O God, come to our assistance; O Lord, make haste to help us".

Paul said...

To make a few comments about what has appeared on this blog in recent days:

In Australia, for several decades we have had a number of Catholic nuns say things like "the very idea that we can't celebrate the Eucharist without a man!".
More than several times in my life I have wondered why such feminists Catholic nuns just don't leave the RC church, and join a denomination that has women priests or ministers and which also have beliefs regarding marriage and sexual morality that they also have come to embrace.

Regarding the issue of homosexuality and the Catholic Church.
Australia will probably soon have a plebiscite on whether to allow Gay marriage. Bishop Julian Porteous was brave enough to put out a short booklet for Catholics in his diocese mildly reminding Catholics about the basic RC beliefs and teachings regarding marriage and sexuality etc. Quite quickly then a transgender Green Left politician took legal action against Bishop JL and this bishop was looking at appearing before a legal tribunal on serious allegations of " hate speech".

As it is said, you couldn't make this stuff up.

Also, here down under, we also have a commissar, sorry commissioner, for race and religious discrimination, on $300,000 a year who can ignore or never speak out once against some imam like Sheik Shady Alsuleiman who is now head of the Australian Council of Imams, who has vilified Jews, labelled Christmas celebrations "Satan worship", has no problem with homosexuals being executed as they " spread disease....and whose evil actions bring evil outcomes for our society " and so on (but at least since JP II became pope in 1978, leftist and secular leaders and journalists have ripped into the Catholic Church for its alleged homophobia.)......

But the above commissioner can strongly speak out against certain conservative, Christian politicians who might state publically they are unhappy at what is at times preached in mosques or maybe suggest we take more persecuted Christians from the middle east into Australia as opposed to more and more often Muslim economic migrants. And of course, these conservative, Christian politicians, like all our Catholic bishops have never advocated violence against anyone.

And on another matter, of course next year is the 500th anniversary of the 1517 beginning of the Protestant Reformation. Many years ago I studied early modern European history at university. We had a Cambridge PhD lecturer put it to us to consider that Martin Luther quite possibly suffered from untreated episodes of bipolar disorder. He claimed it was quite likely. If true or even possible then it means it is also possible the Protestant Reformation was kick started by a man if not psychotic at times, then at least at times to a degree was suffering from mood congruent delusional beliefs......by faith alone, scripture alone, the Pope as anti Christ etc could have been formulated and promoted by a man who had episodes where at least there was a good dose of delusional fantasy, with some sane perceptions of reality, dancing around in his head at the same time.

Gene said...

Paul C, the old schtick about Luther being manic-depressive has been around quite a while. It is generally scorned by most Reformation scholars as "psycho-theology," or "psycho-Church history." Still there are those PhD lecturers who need something novel to lecture about that maybe people of this generation have not heard. There is no indication in either his writings, his "Table Talk" or his biography that he suffered from such. The Reformation probably could have been avoided if both Leo and Luther had not been so mule-headed and if the European rulers had not seized upon the movement as a way to get the church out of their business.

The old psycho stuff raises its head all the time...Luther was manic-depressive, Calvin was OCD, Jesus was paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of grandeur, Paul had epilepsy and his vision on the road was nothing but a seizure, John was hallucinating from stress from being on an island for so long, Abraham was nuts and a near infanticide, Moses was crazy, Joshua was a crazed mass murderer, Ezekiel was psychotic, Jonah was a Class A liar, Jeremiah was a hysteric, Ruth had the hots for Boaz, Daniel was clearly a loon, Mary was a naughty, crazy girl who got herself knocked up and made up this fantastic story that generations of other crazy people have believed, blah, blah, blah...ANYTHING, ANYTHING, but belief...ANYTHING but taking Christ at His word and Scripture seriously...ANYTHING to diminish these men and elevate MAN...Christian humanism, anyone?

Anonymous said...

It is very interesting to me how so many Catholics pick and choose the Pope's that they want to quote, admire and respect. These are usually Popes that have supported that persons train of thought. On the other hand if you have a Good and Beautiful Pope like we certainly do have today he is treated with the utmost disrespect because he does not fit into their mold of Catholic Teaching. I have not read but have certainly heard about the recent comments by our Pope calling some priests "animals". Have not many poster's on this site called other individuals names including the President of the United States? If name calling is so offensive they should look to their own mouth before judging the Pope. I am sure that the Pope knows an "animal" or a person who behaves like an "animal" when he sees one. He was a priest and today is our High Priest and he has lived around Priests all of his life. I understand his words while to some you may "pray to be delivered from this Pope". I once met a Priest who acted just like an animal. He acted like a wolf. He destroyed the most holy sheep in our flock.

Anonymous said...

Gene that was a very good post. I have never heard biblical characters called those names. Wow. Really that was very interesting. Did someone really think that about Paul?

rcg said...

I beleave it because it is so preposterous. All the things Gene says are the first thought one would have upon hearing the stories and in every other case where people try to pull off these stories the tales fly apart on their own. The idea of poorly educated people being bamboozled by a failed rabbi seem plausible, but how these same stooges managed to build the schools and coordinate the founding of the Church is proof they were helped by more than simple conviction.

Anonymous said...

"DO YOU LIVE IN A BARN?" That question was asked of me today by one of the regular visitors to this site. IT CHANGED AN OLD WOMAN'S HEART Growing up Protestant we worshipped in a simple church. White pews, no alter, clear glass windows. We spent a lot of our money on other missions besides the church building. The minister dressed in a simple suit. The building all my life was just that a building where we met to worship God. Later I converted to the Catholic Church. What different Church buildings they build. Thousands of dollars on stained glass windows, marble floors and alters, gold and color everywhere. The buildings took my breath away but in a way worried an old Protestant heart. How many poor would that one window feed? Are they asking for more money for this or that for the building? How many Gold Vestments do these priests need? That is HONESTLY what I thought. One blogger took offense and basically blessed me out. She has to have been a cradle catholic. She explained to me that only the BEST would do For God's home and for the minister's standing before him saying mass. A light bulb went off.... I thought of my own home. A simple house but with the best in it that we can afford. Many call my house a beautiful house. Why did I care so much about my house and why didn't I live in a barn. The answer for me was that I wanted a HOME a nice place while on earth to share memories for my children. A place of peace at the end of the day. No I don't want to live in a barn and so why shouldn't we want the best home for God that we can build. I suddenly realized that Catholics built a HOME for God and not just a building for worship. I really did ask God to forgive me for not understanding. I really do appreciate Jan helping me with the significant change in my Heart.

Paul said...

Gene,

Thanks for your interesting reply.

But I thought what I wrote (before I added that last bit about what one Sydney academic taught a bunch of young people in a BA history course in 1985) in the main part of my comments might have interested you or someone else more.

I had heard that about Paul and Abraham for example, but never heard of Calvin as OCD, or Jesus as a paranoid schizophrenic! I honestly don't even like typing that about Jesus.

Most of my minimal uni studies were completed many years ago.

I do remember that in a big university library in the 1980s it was possible to find books about Christianity that could come out with quite crazy stuff. For example, how Jesus and his early followers were like some sort of first century hippy group or cult that all regularly consumed hallucinogenics like "magic mushrooms" etc. Or that Jesus was really the biological son of a Roman soldier (Pantera?) who took advantage, or forced himself on a teenage Mary. If I remember, I think also that in our generation the movie "Jesus of Montreal" regurgitated some old ridiculous claims about Jesus.......

I don't want to go off on a tangent too much......but Cardinal George Pell (who for some reason some proud Catholics in Australia claim is the "number 3 man in the Vatican") when he was a young bishop was mocked by some liberal, progressive priests for making it clear he would rather NOT have any one of his seminarians see the movie " Jesus of Montreal".

Anonymous said...

Anonymous July 7, 2016 at 9:43 PM, I really do appreciate your comments and I am sorry if I came across a bit too strongly. I am as you gathered a cradle Catholic. I attended a small parish wooden church which had simple pews and not much in the way of adornments, but the altar was always covered with fresh white linen altar cloths and fine vessels for the altar and tabernacle and the children would often bring flowers to adorn the altar. Every day the women of the parish would fold newspapers in the school hall to raise money for the missions because the newspapers could be sold in those days. They would chat as they did it, a cup of tea nearby. We as young children would go into the hall and help after school. On some Sundays we would go to a church that was very much like St Joseph's. I loved going there and to this day it does give everyone a lift and a foretaste of heaven. The most generous of people are often the poorest and I was told the gold leaf on some of the churches in Brazil was donated by the poorest of the poor, because they wanted to give of their best for Him.

I read this about St Francis of Assisi - as you know he himself lived a life of poverty but was very careful when it came to the church buildings and altar:

"During his apostolic travels, St Francis of Assisi used to carry with him, or obtain, a broom to sweep the churches he found dirty. After preaching to the people, he used to address the clergy of the town and fervently urge them to be zealous for the worthy appearance of the Lord’s house. He had St Clare and the Poor Clares prepare sacred linens for altars. In spite of his poverty, he used to obtain and send ciboria, chalices and altar cloths to poor, neglected churches.

When St Peter Julian Eymard had to begin Eucharistic adoration in a poor abandoned house, the grief he experienced was so great as to make him exclaim even afterwards: “Oh, how dearly it cost me to house Jesus so poorly!”

We learn from the life of St John Baptist de la Salle that the Saint wanted to see the chapel always clean and duly furnished, with the altar in perfect order and the sanctuary lamp always burning. Dirty altar cloths, torn vestments and tarnished vessels hurt his eyes and much more his heart. He did not consider any expense too great when it came to providing proper worship of Our Lord."

Anonymous said...

Anonymous July 7, 2016 at 6:53 PM, can you point to any head of a Protestant denomination or Orthodox, Buddhists, Jews etc, who have called their clerics "animals"? I can save you time by answering that question and say, no, you haven't because all of the heads of other churches, while I may not go along with their beliefs, exhibit decorum while Francis does not. Unfortunately, his comments show him to be an uncouth man. There have been many liberals in the Church that I don't go along with but I have yet to hear any of them stoop so low. The Church will remember Francis but for all the wrong reasons unfortunately.

Anonymous 2 said...

I find it odd the read here about Pope Francis’s use of the term “animals” to describe some priests without any discussion of, or even reference to, the reasons why he used that term. I have not been able to read the transcript of his remarks, which I would need to do for a full understanding, but surely, whether or not one approves or disapproves of his characterization, it is not irrelevant what the context for it is.

From what I have been able to glean from reports, Pope Francis was referring to those priests who refuse to baptize the babies of unwed mothers. I must confess I am surprised, shocked even, that there exist such priests who would punish an innocent baby in this way for the sins of the mother but I assume there are such; otherwise, why would Pope Francis have addressed the issue?

And on the off-chance that any of Pope Francis’s critics are interested, here is an arguable defense of Pope Francis is adopting such a characterization:

https://ronconte.wordpress.com/2016/06/25/why-did-pope-francis-call-some-priests-animals/

Then readers can make up their own mind whether or not Pope Francis’s words were appropriate.

More generally, what is going on with this lack of interest in context? I see it everywhere here, thereby impeding the proper interpretation of magisterial pronouncements, the proper understanding of informal remarks by Pope Francis, and a proper evaluation of videos posted on the internet. But it extends beyond this Blog, of course. It has infected our media, our politics, and our conversation generally. People seem very willing to cherry pick and rip words out of their context, thereby of course thoroughly distorting them, to score or support a point. It is as if we had been colonized by the Empire of the Soundbite and were no longer interested in reading or understanding. What on earth is going on with us?


Gene said...

Anon 2 will quickly leap to the defense of any modernist, Muslim, anti-American, anti-Capitalist scum bag. Too bad he wasn't there for Hitler to wind up and set on the stage at his memorable rallies. What a class A apologist he would made..."Now, everyone knows Europe needs soap. We must not overlook the more subtle aspects of this crisis...and lamp shades...there is a terrible shortage of lampshades...perhaps with the proper light these issues will become clearer."