Sunday, August 21, 2016
WHY DO PROGRESSIVES HATE "AD ORIENTEM" AND THE PRE-VATICAN II CHURCH? AND WHY DO THEY MAKE AN IDOL OUT OF A PASTORAL ECUMENICAL COUNCIL, A NEW FORM OF FUNDAMENTALISM BUT APPLIED TO A PASTORAL COUNCIL RATHER THAN SCRIPTURE OR THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH?
But the fact that a high ranking cardinal suggested such a thing shows how far we have come from the 1960's when suggesting such a thing would have be impossible to do. This tells me that in the future and under a new pope or even under Pope Francis that ad orientem will become more normative and understood and appreciated.
Nonetheless the following is the mentality of the Vatican II fundamentalists:
"The Council's reformist spirit made possible all sorts of practices not explicitly advocated in its documents." ( You can see how evil the intent of the reformist spirit really is and how they hijacked a perfectly good Council and perverted it since 1965's conclusion of Vatican II!)
"It's time to say say: the so-called 'hermeneutic of continuity' proposed by Benedict XVI in 2005 has outlived its usefulness as a tool for understanding the Second Vatican Council" (How self-serving is this statement coming from a Vatican II progressive idolater? These people are some of the most dogmatic, controlling people there are!)
"For liturgy (at Vatican II), the paradigm shift is from Carolingian clericalized sacred drama to an act of the entire community. Just let the full weight of that shift sink in, including all the possible implications for liturgical practice. There is a reason why the Fathers of Vatican II decided that the 1962 missal would not remain in use in its unreformed state." (Of course dogmatic, controlling Vatican II fundamentalists don't believe that there could be development and open mindedness to the older forms of liturgical practice which Pope Benedict brilliantly advocated and promoted. It erodes their fundamentalistic ideas about Vatican II as though a pastoral council sets in cement its pastoral theology. This is a flimsy as saying Limbo is a dogma of the Church required for Catholics to believe!)
There is no reason why the post Vatican II Ordinary Form Mass can't be celebrated as the "Carolingian clericalized sacred drama or the Pre-Vatican II (now post Vatican II) Extraordinary Form Mass can't be an act of the entire community. In fact it always was and the Church emphasized that the entire Church was present at Mass, not just the Church Militant, but the Church suffering in prugatory and the Church triumphant in heaven. I wonder if Vatican II fundamentalists even consider this as they normally just focus in on the gather visible "assembly" (i.e. congregation or community) and not the entire Church in all its suffering and glory!
AND JUST WHAT IS SO EVIL AND HORRIBLE ABOUT A SACRED DRAMA AND JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE SAYS THAT THE PRE-VATICAN II MASS IS A CLERICALIZED SACRED DRAMA IS IT SO? TALK ABOUT BEING A DOGMATIC FUNDAMENTALIST!
You can read more about how one Vatican II dogmatic fundamentalist, in a long line of progressives since Vatican II, has made Vatican II into a demagogue over at the The Catholic Herald.