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In the last two or three years there have been three desecrations, the latest on Friday, October 10th and shown in the photo above where a man pulls down his pants and underwear and appears to me to want to urinate on the altar! I don’t think he got that far.
Then on two other occasions a man actually got on top of the altar, knocked all the tall candlesticks and crucifix off of it to include the altar clothes! The candlesticks and crucifix were damaged. Now there are only cheap, small candlesticks and crucifix placed on the altar, a liturgical kind of desecration of that high altar!
And of course, we all remember when Pope Francis, in the most arrogant way, placed the pacamamma plant on the main altar at the offertory, stunning the Master of Ceremonies, now Bishop Guido Marini.
With the three most recent desecrations, is there a way to stop it by Vatican security??????
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And of course, we all remember when Pope Francis, in the most arrogant way, placed the pacamamma plant on the main altar at the offertory, stunning the Master of Ceremonies, now Bishop Guido Marini.
That’s a really cheap low shot. These things are no way the same of equivalent.
The many (multitudes) but not all would beg to disagree with you.
You’re right, bb. They aren’t equivalent. The idol worship was much worse.
Very few would agree with you.
Although I don’t like flowers or plants placed on the Mensa of the altar (and are proscribed by the rubrics), they’re decoration not desecration.
It wasn’t a Pachamama plant as there’s no such thing. It was a plant native to the Amazon region placed on the altar in solidarity with the Amazonian people’s and the desecration of the pachammana statuette symbol of a pregnant Mary which was desecrated by trad extremists.
https://wherepeteris.com/pachamama-mother-of-god/#:~:text=Pope%20Francis%20has%20said%20there,statement%20has%20not%20been%20extensive.
Pope Francis has said there was no idolatry in the Vatican Gardens that day, but we have heard a considerable amount of commentary attempting to refute his claim. He also described the synod’s ‘pachamama’ statue as “a pregnant woman with her son in her womb”, but the commentary on this statement has not been extensive.
Pope Francis thinks ‘these people’, the Catholic indigenous natives of the Amazon, have something to teach us about the ‘pachamama’ statue. He has asked us, the ‘established church’, to listen to them. As preposterous as that may sound to those who have extensive education and teaching experience in Catholic theology and philosophy, to those who believe it is we who must teach them, the Catholic Amazonians may have knowledge and wisdom beyond what is only available in brick buildings.
A quick internet search reveals multiple Latin American ‘pachamama’ in varying shapes, sizes, colors, ethnicities, and descriptions. There is no ‘one size fits all’, but every spirituality, be it pagan or New Age, has their own version, yet none resemble the Pachamama displayed at the Pan-Amazon synod in Rome last month.
And a sixteenth century Catholic writer, an indigenous native of Peru, describes the “difficulty of explaining, with only language” his native religion within the context of the Christianity introduced by the Spanish missionaries. He necessitated the “use of images”. (3)
A Priest who had a private conversation with one of the Bishops participating in the Amazon synod shared the Bishop’s remarks with Catholic apologist, Dave Armstrong:
“Pachamama is clearly a Christian adoption of an Indigenous symbol, which follows the Church’s longstanding practice throughout her history of enculturating herself in different cultures by adopting the culture’s symbols and art forms. As such, he had no problem venerating Pachamama as a portrayal of the Blessed Mother, carrying the Divine Child in her womb, while in a posture of prayer.”
Pope Francis has given us the identity of Pachamama. He said she is the ‘Woman with her Son in her womb’ and he declared her “Our Lady, Queen of the Amazon” at the conclusion of the synod.
This is Franciscan theology, going back to Saint Francis himself, who praised God for, “Sister Earth, our Mother”, in his Canticle of Creation, on which Pope Francis based his Encyclical, Laudato Si. Is Pope Francis reviving the ‘Scotism vs Thomism’ debate on the Immaculate Conception which the Church has, thus far, settled only in part?
Our Lady, Queen of the Amazon.
Pray for us!
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