One can’t imagine that those who have an almost 10 year theological preparation before they are ordained a priest can make so many stupid theological statements and then, a Jesuit, that Father Reese is, along with his brother Jesuit, Pope Francis, claims that Pope Francis likes too much chatter when Pope Francis has complained about it from day one of his papacy!
This is what Jesuit Fr. Thomas Reese said about the PAPROCKI/MCELROY CHATTER FEST AND SLAP DOWN.
Ironically, though, Fr. Reese’s remarks, but said through the fog of dementia, is actually blaming Pope Francis for all the polarization occurring in every country of the world due to Pope Francis himself! Because, as he says, Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI would have shut down heretical chiacchiere of McElroy, not to put words in Reese’s mouth.
Fr. Reese, himself somewhat heretical, but maybe due to dementia that has kept his mind back in the theological chiacchiere of the 1970’s, dementia leads people back to headier days in a fog of nostalgia, is right and wrong in his statements to the NCR, confused to say the least:
"If I were to take him at face value, I would suggest that he have wise and prudent people read his essays before he publishes them," said Jesuit Fr. Tom Reese, a journalist who has covered the U.S. bishops for decades.
Reese told NCR that Paprocki's essay reflects not only deep divisions in the U.S. Catholic hierarchy but also a level of public animosity, open disagreement and strident rhetoric among bishops that Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI would not have tolerated.
"On the other hand, there wouldn't have been this kind of discussion under John Paul II because the Vatican would have shut it down," said Reese, who added that Francis has encouraged open discussion on sensitive issues such as figuring out new ways to accompany LGBTQ Catholics and same-sex couples.
"Francis has opened the church up for discussion again and [conservative bishops] just don't like it. They're trying to shut it down by using this kind of inflammatory rhetoric, even against cardinals," Reese said.
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Father,
There is a great short blog post on NuChurch Jesuit, Thomas Reese, at Fr Z's blog:
"Jesuit at Fishwrap: 'Jesus was wrong' "
Some followers of Fr Z's blog have written some great comments.
By the way, if one Googles "Fr Reese heresy" one could be kept busy for a week reading re Fr Reese's bizarre unorthodox views going back YEARS - well before any aged related dementia might have set in.
I think I might take a break from reading online articles tonight, and follow the advice I gave Mark Thomas, and reread the first chapters of St Paul's Romans and key chapters in 1 Corinthians - in part to mentally, spiritually and even emotionally recover after reading some articles by and about Fr Thomas Reese and also checking out Fr James Martin's Facebook site for the first time...
What is it about some modern prominent Jesuits that they can't take a cup of tea without relating it to LGBTIQ+2+++ issues !
TJM says:
"What is it about some *modernist* prominent Jesuits that they can't take a cup of tea without relating it to LGBTIQ+2+++ issues !"
Fixed "modern" for you, TJM? 😉
First, the more orthofdox were told to fall in line with the times. The SSPX was labeled heretical and excommunicrated. Under Benedict XVI sanity returned and we found out that orthodoxy, especially the symbol of it, the TLM, has never been abrogated (how could it be?). Now the the pendulum is swinging bank to the 70s again. The TLM is hanging on for dear life. Well, the Liturgical Police of the semi heretical hierarchy should be defunded subito!
Soon, Archbishop (Cardinal?) Roche may find no one is listening to him as the Church he leads dies off. The good news is the orthodox Catholics will be able to purchase the abandoned Cathedrals at a very reasonable price.
Catechist Kiev,
Did you mean to respond to Paul?
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