Pope Francis has always spoken highly of Emeritus...and Emeritus has always spoken highly of Pope Francis. Each man in question has reported that their relationship has been fantastic.
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI has insisted that his former Pontificate, and Pope Francis' Pontificate, are in wonderful continuity with each other.
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI has rejected the unfortunate attempts by certain folks who have pitted the two men against each other. Pope Francis has also rejected said attempts.
The notion that a rupture exists between the two Pontificates in question is false.
Pope Francis: Benedict XVI's theology is not for the past, but fruitful for the future.
Pope Francis then highlighted the “spiritual presence and accompaniment in prayer” of Pope emeritus Benedict XVI for the whole Church, and highlighted that the occasion reaffirmed the contribution of his theological work and thought which “continue to be fruitful and operative.”
Recalling the recently commemorated 60th anniversary of the opening of the Second Vatican Council, Pope Francis pointed to Father Joseph Ratzinger's role at the Council, as an expert who helped in the creation of some of its documents; and then in his calling as Pope Benedict XVI to “lead the ecclesial community in its implementation, both alongside St. John Paul II and [then as Pastor of the universal Church.”
Even recently, Pope Francis noted, Benedict XVI still wanted to highlight how the Council enduringly exercises its crucial function, as it gave us the necessary guidelines to reformulate the central question of the nature and mission of the Church in our time (in his message for the 10th International Symposium of the Ratzinger Foundation, Oct. 7, 2022).
In fact, Benedict XVI has “helped us to read the conciliar documents in-depth, proposing a "hermeneutic of reform and continuity."
“These contributions, offer us a solid theological basis for the Church's journey: a ‘living’ Church, which he taught us to see and live as communion, and which is on the move - in "synod" - guided by the Spirit of the Lord, always open to the mission of proclaiming the Gospel and serving the world in which it lives.”
Pope Francis has always spoken highly of Emeritus...and Emeritus has always spoken highly of Pope Francis. Each man in question has reported that their relationship has been fantastic.
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI has insisted that his former Pontificate, and Pope Francis' Pontificate, are in wonderful continuity with each other.
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI has rejected the unfortunate attempts of those who have tried to pit the two holy men against each other. Pope Francis has also rejected said attempts.
The notion that a rupture exists between the two Pontificates in question is untenable.
Pope Francis: Benedict XVI's theology is not for the past, but fruitful for the future.
Pope Francis then highlighted the “spiritual presence and accompaniment in prayer” of Pope emeritus Benedict XVI for the whole Church, and highlighted that the occasion reaffirmed the contribution of his theological work and thought which “continue to be fruitful and operative.”
Recalling the recently commemorated 60th anniversary of the opening of the Second Vatican Council, Pope Francis pointed to Father Joseph Ratzinger's role at the Council, as an expert who helped in the creation of some of its documents; and then in his calling as Pope Benedict XVI to “lead the ecclesial community in its implementation, both alongside St. John Paul II and [then as Pastor of the universal Church.”
Even recently, Pope Francis noted, Benedict XVI still wanted to highlight how the Council enduringly exercises its crucial function, as it gave us the necessary guidelines to reformulate the central question of the nature and mission of the Church in our time (in his message for the 10th International Symposium of the Ratzinger Foundation, Oct. 7, 2022).
In fact, Benedict XVI has “helped us to read the conciliar documents in-depth, proposing a "hermeneutic of reform and continuity."
“These contributions, offer us a solid theological basis for the Church's journey: a ‘living’ Church, which he taught us to see and live as communion, and which is on the move - in "synod" - guided by the Spirit of the Lord, always open to the mission of proclaiming the Gospel and serving the world in which it lives.”
Recalling the recently commemorated 60th anniversary of the opening of the Second Vatican Council, Pope Francis pointed to Father Joseph Ratzinger's role at the Council, as an expert who helped in the creation of some of its documents; and then in his calling as Pope Benedict XVI to “lead the ecclesial community in its implementation, both alongside St. John Paul II and [then as Pastor of the universal Church.”
Even recently, Pope Francis noted, Benedict XVI still wanted to highlight how the Council enduringly exercises its crucial function, as it gave us the necessary guidelines to reformulate the central question of the nature and mission of the Church in our time..."
As far as his ecclesial career is concerned, Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI's legacy is tied in powerful, irreversible fashion to the following:
-- His influential role as a progressive peritus at Vatican II. Then, in the decades that have followed, his unrelenting defense, as well as promotion of, Vatican II.
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI has rejected...he does not have any use for the argument...that Vatican II was unorthodox, a failure...
He has refused utterly to accept such talk.
That is among the chief reasons as to why "traditionalists" are engaged in a subtle (actually, not-so-subtle) spiritual war against Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI.
But there are plenty of flat-out honest "traditionalists" who do not hide their collective belief that Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI has not moved beyond his days as a suit-and-tie-wearing Vatican II supposed "modernist."
During the 1980s, Archbishop Lefebvre/SSPX, for example, characterized then-Cardinal Ratzinger as such.
There are Pope Francis-haters who have claimed that Pope Francis has worked to destroy Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI's ecclesial career-related legacy. Incredibly, said folks have then bashed and trashed Vatican II.
To attack Vatican II is to attack Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI...as he is linked in powerful, unbreakable fashion, to Vatican II.
Therefore, if Vatican II is horrific, Church-destroying, unorthodox, and evil...a monumental flop...as many "traditionalists" have claimed, then goodbye to Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI's ecclesial legacy as he played vital roles in having formulated the Council...then in the Council's implementation...and his unrelenting declaration that we must accept Vatican II.
Not really curious. He was at an award ceremony and said something designed to please those in attendance. It cost nothing and it means nothing. Pope as politician.
Clearly, Ratzinger was not "liberal" enough for Bergoglio, as Ratzinger refused to crush the Latin Mass, refused to name-call or insult, and saw continuity of doctrine as the key to maintaining the authentic and real Church.
A true "liberal" such as Bergoglio knows that true liberalism requires an illiberal dictator and radical revolutionary, something his followers heartily applaud, knowing offering empty platitudes while doing the exact opposite is the correct way to run a revolution, which is the real purpose of the church.
To maintain this sense of revolution, one must appoint fellow revolutionaries such as atheists, pro-abortionists, lesbians and gays to critical church organizations and I am waiting with eager anticipation for him to appoint a World Youth Day leader who is a paedophile, unless he has already done so, so that the youth can see we welcome also minor-attracted-persons.
I understand he is shagging former Biden cabinet member Sam Brinton to head the Vatican loss-prevention program, to show how forgiving and accepting is mother church.
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PS-All except the Latin Mass part.
F.
I do not find the headline curious.
Pope Francis has always spoken highly of Emeritus...and Emeritus has always spoken highly of Pope Francis. Each man in question has reported that their relationship has been fantastic.
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI has insisted that his former Pontificate, and Pope Francis' Pontificate, are in wonderful continuity with each other.
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI has rejected the unfortunate attempts by certain folks who have pitted the two men against each other. Pope Francis has also rejected said attempts.
The notion that a rupture exists between the two Pontificates in question is false.
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From today's 2022 Ratzinger Prize award ceremony:
Pope Francis: Benedict XVI's theology is not for the past, but fruitful for the future.
Pope Francis then highlighted the “spiritual presence and accompaniment in prayer” of Pope emeritus Benedict XVI for the whole Church, and highlighted that the occasion reaffirmed the contribution of his theological work and thought which “continue to be fruitful and operative.”
Recalling the recently commemorated 60th anniversary of the opening of the Second Vatican Council, Pope Francis pointed to Father Joseph Ratzinger's role at the Council, as an expert who helped in the creation of some of its documents; and then in his calling as Pope Benedict XVI to “lead the ecclesial community in its implementation, both alongside St. John Paul II and [then as Pastor of the universal Church.”
Even recently, Pope Francis noted, Benedict XVI still wanted to highlight how the Council enduringly exercises its crucial function, as it gave us the necessary guidelines to reformulate the central question of the nature and mission of the Church in our time (in his message for the 10th International Symposium of the Ratzinger Foundation, Oct. 7, 2022).
In fact, Benedict XVI has “helped us to read the conciliar documents in-depth, proposing a "hermeneutic of reform and continuity."
“These contributions, offer us a solid theological basis for the Church's journey: a ‘living’ Church, which he taught us to see and live as communion, and which is on the move - in "synod" - guided by the Spirit of the Lord, always open to the mission of proclaiming the Gospel and serving the world in which it lives.”
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Mark, your Debate With Traditionalists Data Base Is getting thin and you are becoming repetitive. Have you re-upped your subscription?
I do not find the headline curious.
Pope Francis has always spoken highly of Emeritus...and Emeritus has always spoken highly of Pope Francis. Each man in question has reported that their relationship has been fantastic.
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI has insisted that his former Pontificate, and Pope Francis' Pontificate, are in wonderful continuity with each other.
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI has rejected the unfortunate attempts of those who have tried to pit the two holy men against each other. Pope Francis has also rejected said attempts.
The notion that a rupture exists between the two Pontificates in question is untenable.
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From today's 2022 Ratzinger Prize award ceremony:
Pope Francis: Benedict XVI's theology is not for the past, but fruitful for the future.
Pope Francis then highlighted the “spiritual presence and accompaniment in prayer” of Pope emeritus Benedict XVI for the whole Church, and highlighted that the occasion reaffirmed the contribution of his theological work and thought which “continue to be fruitful and operative.”
Recalling the recently commemorated 60th anniversary of the opening of the Second Vatican Council, Pope Francis pointed to Father Joseph Ratzinger's role at the Council, as an expert who helped in the creation of some of its documents; and then in his calling as Pope Benedict XVI to “lead the ecclesial community in its implementation, both alongside St. John Paul II and [then as Pastor of the universal Church.”
Even recently, Pope Francis noted, Benedict XVI still wanted to highlight how the Council enduringly exercises its crucial function, as it gave us the necessary guidelines to reformulate the central question of the nature and mission of the Church in our time (in his message for the 10th International Symposium of the Ratzinger Foundation, Oct. 7, 2022).
In fact, Benedict XVI has “helped us to read the conciliar documents in-depth, proposing a "hermeneutic of reform and continuity."
“These contributions, offer us a solid theological basis for the Church's journey: a ‘living’ Church, which he taught us to see and live as communion, and which is on the move - in "synod" - guided by the Spirit of the Lord, always open to the mission of proclaiming the Gospel and serving the world in which it lives.”
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Father McDonald, sorry...I posted the same comments twice.
For most people here, that is two posts too many from me.
:-)
Pax.
Mark Thomas
From the news story in question:
Recalling the recently commemorated 60th anniversary of the opening of the Second Vatican Council, Pope Francis pointed to Father Joseph Ratzinger's role at the Council, as an expert who helped in the creation of some of its documents; and then in his calling as Pope Benedict XVI to “lead the ecclesial community in its implementation, both alongside St. John Paul II and [then as Pastor of the universal Church.”
Even recently, Pope Francis noted, Benedict XVI still wanted to highlight how the Council enduringly exercises its crucial function, as it gave us the necessary guidelines to reformulate the central question of the nature and mission of the Church in our time..."
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As far as his ecclesial career is concerned, Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI's legacy is tied in powerful, irreversible fashion to the following:
-- His influential role as a progressive peritus at Vatican II. Then, in the decades that have followed, his unrelenting defense, as well as promotion of, Vatican II.
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI has rejected...he does not have any use for the argument...that Vatican II was unorthodox, a failure...
He has refused utterly to accept such talk.
That is among the chief reasons as to why "traditionalists" are engaged in a subtle (actually, not-so-subtle) spiritual war against Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI.
But there are plenty of flat-out honest "traditionalists" who do not hide their collective belief that Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI has not moved beyond his days as a suit-and-tie-wearing Vatican II supposed "modernist."
During the 1980s, Archbishop Lefebvre/SSPX, for example, characterized then-Cardinal Ratzinger as such.
There are Pope Francis-haters who have claimed that Pope Francis has worked to destroy Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI's ecclesial career-related legacy. Incredibly, said folks have then bashed and trashed Vatican II.
To attack Vatican II is to attack Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI...as he is linked in powerful, unbreakable fashion, to Vatican II.
Therefore, if Vatican II is horrific, Church-destroying, unorthodox, and evil...a monumental flop...as many "traditionalists" have claimed, then goodbye to Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI's ecclesial legacy as he played vital roles in having formulated the Council...then in the Council's implementation...and his unrelenting declaration that we must accept Vatican II.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Not really curious. He was at an award ceremony and said something designed to please those in attendance. It cost nothing and it means nothing. Pope as politician.
Clearly, Ratzinger was not "liberal" enough for Bergoglio, as Ratzinger refused to crush the Latin Mass, refused to name-call or insult, and saw continuity of doctrine as the key to maintaining the authentic and real Church.
A true "liberal" such as Bergoglio knows that true liberalism requires an illiberal dictator and radical revolutionary, something his followers heartily applaud, knowing offering empty platitudes while doing the exact opposite is the correct way to run a revolution, which is the real purpose of the church.
To maintain this sense of revolution, one must appoint fellow revolutionaries such as atheists, pro-abortionists, lesbians and gays to critical church organizations and I am waiting with eager anticipation for him to appoint a World Youth Day leader who is a paedophile, unless he has already done so, so that the youth can see we welcome also minor-attracted-persons.
I understand he is shagging former Biden cabinet member Sam Brinton to head the Vatican loss-prevention program, to show how forgiving and accepting is mother church.
Bob,
I suspect very soon the only comments we will see here are from Monsieur Non-Sequiturs! I’ve about had it
TJM, if anyone wants to read my posts or yours, they can do so. They also can ignore them, and frequently do.
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