Indeed! The parish church I grew up in in Augusta had NO BATHROOM! You had to go to another building nearby. My dad insisted that we go to the bathroom before Mass because we could not go during Mass! I see children leaving to go to the bathroom as I am elevating the Host and Chalice, reason 3 million and 666 for ad orientem!
Yes, William, to a great extent I believe you are correct. My parents would never have allowed me to behave in Mass the way many do today. I really wish our priest, in a respectful and catechetical way, would dedicate a part of his homily to educating folks on some "do's and don'ts". Not sure why most priests don't do this from time to time
William - The changes that led to less than proper decorum are not due to Vatican II. Were that the case we would NOT have seen it across the board in society, since society was not impacted by Vatican II. People used to "dress" to fly or take Greyhound. No more. No one would have gone into a courtroom without their best clothes. Now they do. No one wore a hat/baseball cap while eating in a restaurant. Now, it is commonplace. As much as some folks want to blame Vatican II, the argument just falls flat when we see these trends throughout society.
I wish I could find and post the late, great Father Andrew Doris’s rules (suggestions) for Holy Mass attendance. They were true gems and helped to truly participate in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
The Catholic Church could have upheld Her standards in the 1960s and been an island of sanity but instead followed the “slob parade” - the Zeitgeist. I recall a “priest” in my high school “celebrating “Mass” on a coffee table in slacks and a white shirt. If only we had cell phones with cameras then! A few brave clerics held to traditional standards like Msgr. Schuler of St. Agnes and his parish continues to flourish to this day.
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And might I add...Stop the mid Mass, even during the Consecration, field trips to the bathroom with children. Teach them NO, we are not doing this!
#9. Come early, sit in a pew near the central aisle and glare at anyone who tries to move past you.
Indeed! The parish church I grew up in in Augusta had NO BATHROOM! You had to go to another building nearby. My dad insisted that we go to the bathroom before Mass because we could not go during Mass! I see children leaving to go to the bathroom as I am elevating the Host and Chalice, reason 3 million and 666 for ad orientem!
Vatican II vulgarized our sacred rites and these dicta no longer apply. Bugini has won and we no longer "own the Mystery."
Yes, William, to a great extent I believe you are correct. My parents would never have allowed me to behave in Mass the way many do today. I really wish our priest, in a respectful and catechetical way, would dedicate a part of his homily to educating folks on some "do's and don'ts". Not sure why most priests don't do this from time to time
William - The changes that led to less than proper decorum are not due to Vatican II. Were that the case we would NOT have seen it across the board in society, since society was not impacted by Vatican II. People used to "dress" to fly or take Greyhound. No more. No one would have gone into a courtroom without their best clothes. Now they do. No one wore a hat/baseball cap while eating in a restaurant. Now, it is commonplace. As much as some folks want to blame Vatican II, the argument just falls flat when we see these trends throughout society.
I wish I could find and post the late, great Father Andrew Doris’s rules (suggestions) for Holy Mass attendance. They were true gems and helped to truly participate in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
The Catholic Church could have upheld Her standards in the 1960s and been an island of sanity but instead followed the “slob parade” - the Zeitgeist. I recall a “priest” in my high school “celebrating “Mass” on a coffee table in slacks and a white shirt. If only we had cell phones with cameras then! A few brave clerics held to traditional standards like Msgr. Schuler of St. Agnes and his parish continues to flourish to this day.
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