a compromised ad orientem
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.katholisches.info/2017/03/hat-papst-franziskus-eine-kehrtwendung-vollzogen-nein-zur-kommunion-fuer-wiederverheiratete-geschiedene-und-abtreibungspolitiker/&prev=searchDid Pope Francis make a turn? "No to the communion for remarried divorced and abortionists" 22 March 2017 According to their visit to Rome, Chile's bishops report that Pope Francis had pronounced a "clear no" as a communion for remarried divorced and abortionists. (Rome) As it seems, Pope Francis has no more "doubts", according to the reports of the Chilean bishops who recently visited the Ad Limina visit to Rome. The papal statements reported by them were a radical turn. "Since it is unacceptable that the President of the Chilean Episcopal Conference and their Secretary General have invented the words of the Pope, the news is of the utmost importance," said the Spanish columnist, Francisco Fernandez de la Cigoña. "There is a sound," said Fernandez de la Cigoña, "as if Cardinal Burke had spoken." What happened? The allusion to "doubt" refers to the "Dubia" (doubt), which gave the pope to four prominent cardinals against controversial parts of the post-synodal letter Amoris laetitia . For more than five months, the Catholic church head has refused to respond to the five questions on central themes of the faith and morality. Shortly before Christmas, one of the four signatories, Cardinal Burke, spoke of a reprimand in camera caritatis . If this did not bring anything, a pope's right of government would be unavoidable. The leaders of the Chilean bishops' conference now report that Pope Francis had explained the doctrine of the Church with "clear words". "The Pope," says Fernandez de la Cigoña. The Chilean daily El Mercurio conducted a joint interview with the President and Secretary General of the Chilean Bishops' Conference . One focus was the ad limina visit to Rome and the question of remarried divorced people. Both confirmed that against Pope Francis a clear "no to the communion for newly married divorced persons and for politicians who pronounce for abortion." The Secretary-General, Monsignor Fernando Ramos, also disagreed with the statement that Pope Francis had spoken in an interview with the weekly newspaper Die Zeit for the abolition of priestly celibacy. The Pope has made it clear "that a more voluntary celibacy is not in its agenda". On the question of the communion for newly wedied divorced, Francis had given a "situational ethic" a rejection and an anecdote from his family to clarify the matter. The clear "no" to the communion for remarried divorced persons brought by the Chilean bishops from their visit to Rome led Fernandez de la Cigoña to the question: Text. Giuseppe Nardi Image: Infocatolica / Vatican.va (screenshot) ============================================================Pax.Mark Thomas
Maybe things are finally coming to a head. If these cardinals formally and publicly correct the pope, then the rest of us will need to take sides. Difficult as that situation would be, at least it would allow for clearer distinctions, with Modernists finally admitting their position and no longer lying about being Catholic. The rest of us could then get back to the business of building up the Catholic Church for the glory of God and to the dismay of the Deceiver: churches, school, hospitals, rosaries, scapulars, processions, large families, and large-scale conversion of serious Protestants, Moslems and atheists to the True Faith. We'd still be sinners, but we'd know what sin is and what must be done about it.
Regarding Francis and the Chilean bishops. http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2017/03/24/analysis-did-pope-francis-just-condemn-communion-for-the-remarried/
What Dialogue said...
I think this is a Huge Debacle.
All you can do is sigh? Well..."Sigh no more, ladies, sigh no more. Men were deceivers ever, One foot in sea, and one on shore, To one thing constant never. Then sigh not so, but let them go, And be you blithe and bonny, Converting all your sounds of woe Into hey nonny, nonny."
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