Friday, January 20, 2017

PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP AND POPE FABIAN: BIRDS OF A FEATHER!

 Pope Fabian was elected pope in a miraculous way when a dove landed on his head at a conclave, but he was a lay person! Thus he had to be ordained a deacon, priest and bishop before his coronation.
President Donald J. Trump, never a politician, a billionaire business man and celebrity didn't have a snowball's chance in hell to be elected president according to billions of people, but he's now president, one of a handful on non-politicians. 

I couldn't find a photo with a dove on his head, but this one is after the dove flew off his head:
 

33 comments:

TJM said...

Thank God for President Trump! Americans of good will want him to succeed!

rcg said...

Yes, TJM. I can't have him fail because I didn't help.

Mark Thomas said...

-- I pray that God will move our president, Mister Donald Trump, to abandon his pro-abortion beliefs.

-- I pray that God will protect President Trump and his family from all harm and evil.

-- I hope that the millions of Catholics who voted for pro-abortion Donald Trump will petition the Angels and Saints to pray that Donald Trump will abandon his anti-life stance in favor of the Culture of Life.

-- It isn't possible for America to enjoy true peace and experience the true meaning of "prosperity" when the most defenseless of God's children are subjected to abortion.

-- His Holiness Pope Francis: "It is necessary to reiterate the strongest opposition to any direct attack on life, especially innocent and defenseless, and her unborn child in the womb is the innocent par excellence.

"Life once conceived must be protected with the utmost care; abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes."

-- His Holiness Pope Francis: "This defense of unborn life is closely linked to the defense of each and every other human right. Once this conviction disappears, so do solid and lasting foundations for the defense of human rights, which would always be subject to the passing whims of the powers that be."

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Mark Thomas said...

President Donald Trump:

"For too long, a small group in our nation’s Capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost. Washington flourished – but the people did not share in its wealth.

"Politicians prospered – but the jobs left, and the factories closed."

Hey...that's capitalism. The capitalist has the right to establish a business...build a factory.

The capitalist offers wages as he sees fit. The capitalist doesn't force anybody to work for him. Should Person "X" wish to take job "X" at salary "X", then so be it. If not, then so be it.

The capitalist has the right to accumulate as much money as he can. The capitalist has the right to close his business...to close his factory.

The capitalist has the right to close his factory in America, then relocate to Mexico, Pakistan, China...where he is able. The capitalist has the right to pay a worker as small a wage as possible.

It is too bad that millions of Americans have lost their jobs as capitalists have relocated American businesses/factories to other countries.

It is too bad that millions of American families have been crushed financially due to the loss of their jobs.

Hey...establish your own business...build your factory...that's your right in a capitalist society.

"...the jobs left, and the factories closed." — Donald Trump.

That is correct. There you go...capitalism.

Perhaps America will turn someday to Catholicism. It is via Catholicism that America would learn to establish a holy, peaceful economic system that, in turn, would lead to true, authentic "prosperity."

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Anonymous said...

Who said Trump is pro-abortion? He certainly is more friendly to the cause than Hillary Clinton would have been---hopefully he will appoint justices that will be constitutional conservatives and then perhaps someday Roe can be gone and the issue thrown back to the states.

Mark Thomas said...

President Donald Trump:

"One by one, the factories shuttered and left our shores, with not even a thought about the millions upon millions of American workers left behind."

Oh, well...but again, that is capitalism. The capitalist has the right to locate his business wherever possible. The capitalist has the right to leave American workers behind.
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Donald Trump: "We will reinforce old alliances and form new ones -- and unite the civilized world against radical Islamic terrorism, which we will eradicate completely from the face of the Earth."

Uh-huh. Yeah. Right.

How will the world eradicate "radical Islamic terrorism" from Earth? Will the world impose a reformation upon Islam that, in turn, will erase from Islam the tradition of terrorizing "unbelievers"?

Will America commit "X" amount of troops to an international military alliance that will go door-to-door throughout the world to "eradicate" each "radical" Moslem?

What is the plan?

Anyway, good luck to President Trump. But he doesn't require luck as I'm certain that his plan will work every bit as well as the plans that Presidents Bush 41, 43, and Obama enacted to combat radical Islamic terrorism.

Uh-huh.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Mark Thomas said...

Donald Trump declared that he supports abortion in cases of "rape, incest, and life of the mother."

Babies in those cases are free to be murdered, according to Donald Trump.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

TJM said...

Anonymous, Hillary Clinton is radidly pro-abortion and has publicly stated that a child has no rights until born alive. In contrast, Donald Trump is way to the right of her and will do all he can to legally restrict abortions. Any Catholic that voted for Hillary needs to go to confession. It's a shame that posters engage in calumny. I think that might still be a sin, even though Pope Francis practices it.

Anonymous said...

Mark Thomas, you need to deal with the political real world and quit insisting on "all or nothing". Would you rather have legislation that prevents 98% of abortions, or 0% at all? Legislation that completely bans abortion is unrealistic in most states, certainly Georgia (at best, any abortion restrictions would contain the 3 exceptions). It is just absurd to call Trump pro-abortion compared with Hillary, who believes in abortion at any time for any reason---and with our tax dollars.

The Egyptian said...

I challenge all of you to read this, a speech given by Steven K Bannon at the Vatican in the summer of 2014. Bannon is Trumps top advisor, his and by projection Trump's view of capitalism is more Catholic than I have heard anywhere even from Francis

https://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/this-is-how-steve-bannon-sees-the-entire-world?utm_term=.lt4KkeJndY#.cdkBxbRk7Z

It is long but very interesting and illuminating

Mark Thomas said...

Anonymous at January 20, 2017, 3:42 PM,

I only "insist" upon that which Holy Mother proclaims to us. She has informed us time and again that a national who aborts babies is a nation that will not enjoy authentic peace.

Donald Trump spoke truthfully about the "carnage" that exists within America. The "carnage" is the result of disrespect for the dignity and right-to-life that God's children enjoy.

Donald Trump: Declared that he supports abortion in cases of "rape, incest, and the life of the mother."

Pope Saint John Paul II: "A nation that kills its own children is a nation without hope."

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Mark Thomas said...

Anonymous said..."It is just absurd to call Trump pro-abortion compared with Hillary..."

If Donald Trump is pro-abortion, then he's pro-abortion. End of story.

If Donald Trump supports the murder of babies, then he supports the murder of babies...and he supports that as he supports abortion. End of story.

Please don't play the "just a little bit pregnant" game. Just as a woman who is pregnant is pregnant...she's not "just a little bit pregnant"...she's pregnant. End of story.

A person isn't "just a little bit pro-abortion." A person who is pro-abortion is pro-abortion.

We need not play the...well, Hillary would support the deaths of 1,000,000 aborted babies per year...but Donald Trump would support just (name the figure...20,000, for example) babies aborted each year.

Therefore, let us not play the following game: Donald Trump isn't...ummm...not really...umm, not much...ummm, just a little bit pro-abortion. Yeah. Yeah. He's not really pro-abortion...well, just a little bit...

...but that's, ummm...yeah...that's okay. It's okay...just a few thousand babies aborted each year...that's not, ummm...well...that's not too bad.

Yeah. Yeah. We can live with the deaths of "just" a few thousands aborted innocent babies each year.

I mean, after all, what's a few thousand dead, innocent babies compared to Donald Trump making America great again!

Okay...some babies are aborted...but we get good-paying job as America will be made great again!

Yay!

Pax.

Mark Thomas



TJM said...

"Let's not play this game" because my candidate, Hillary Clintoon, is evil, an abortion absolutist, and I voted for her and don't want to implicate myself in committing serious sin. Thanks for the laugh.

TJM said...

Donald Trump is signing an executive order tomorrow, reinstating the ban on the US funding abortion giant, the International Planned Parenthood. The evil, craven, Obama signed an Executive Order FUNDING it and Hillary Clintoon would NOT have reversed that order. I think even a moron would see that as an important and significant difference.

Anonymous said...

Well, Mark Thomas, why don't you run on such a platform in the 85% Clinton district of very pro-abortion John Lewis up here in Atlanta? Or maybe the adjoining 75% Clinton district of Hank "Guam might tip over" Johnson? Let me know how it goes...when it comes to legislation, you cannot let the perfect be the enemy of the good. But you do. That means no incremental steps, like restricting funding of abortion, bans on late term abortions. A ban on all abortions is not a realistic goal, at least not in the near future, so you have to go with incremental things. If Roe goes, the issue simply goes back to the states---where it (appropriately) was before 1973. It must be lonely at the voting booth for you as few politicians campaign for a total ban, which politically is not feasible.

Anonymous said...

Mark Thomas, you need to read up on Catholic moral theology and the difference between formal and material co-operation with evil, along with the principle of double effect and, in addition, the difference between immediate and mediate material co-operation with evil.

Jan said...

Congratulations to all Americans on the inauguration of President Trump. I consider the man is genuine and will do his best to keep the promises he made during his inauguration speech. Certainly, he is a breath of fresh air:

Catholic News Service

WASHINGTON (CNS) — President Donald J. Trump told the nation in his inaugural address that it need not fear in the days ahead.

“There should not be fear,” Trump said Jan. 20. “We are protected and we will always be protected. We will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement, and, most important, we will be protected by God.”

In signaling a new era for the United States, “at the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America, and through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other,” Trump said in his 15-minute address. “When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice. The Bible tells us how good and pleasant it is when God’s people live together in unity. We must speak our minds openly, debate our disagreements honestly, but always pursue solidarity. When America is united, America is totally unstoppable.”

He said Americans of all stripes harbor common hopes and dreams.

“We all enjoy the same glorious freedoms,” Trump said, “and we all salute the same great American flag. And whether a child is born in the urban sprawl of Detroit or the windswept plains of Nebraska, they look up at the same night sky, they fill their heart with the same dreams, and they are infused with the breath of life by the same almighty Creator.”

https://cnstopstories.com/2017/01/20/we-will-be-protected-by-god-trump-declares-in-inaugural-address/

God is being brought back in to the political agenda and not before time.

Jan said...

So, Mark Thomas, as a Catholic, who did you vote for?

Mark Thomas said...

Anonymous, if I were to run on a platform in the 85% Clinton district of very pro-abortion John Lewis in Atlanta or the 75% Clinton district of Hank "Guam might tip over" Johnson, I would remain loyal and uncompromising to the True Church's teachings on abortion.

I wouldn't sacrifice the lives of innocent babies to win a political election.

As Sacred Scripture informs us (Douay-Rheims): "Preach the word: be instant in season, out of season:"

His Holiness Pope Francis, February 18, 2016 A.D:

"Abortion is not the lesser of two evils. It is a crime. It is to throw someone out in order to save another. It is a crime, an absolute evil."

Pax.

Mark Thomas


"A nation that kills its own children is a nation without hope." – Pope Saint John Paul II.

Mark Thomas said...

Blogger Jan said..."So, Mark Thomas, as a Catholic, who did you vote for?"

Jan, does that pertain to the discussion at hand? Or do you, out of the blue, wish simply to inquire for whom, if anybody, I voted?

Would you like to know my favorite episode of Flipper?

Do inquiring minds wish to know the color of my favorite boyhood cereal bowl?

By the way, that breakfast bowl was filled many a morning with Cap'n Crunch. Imagine all that sugar going into a six-year-old! Cap'n Crunch followed by a glass of sugar-enriched eggnog.

You think I run off at the mouth now!

No wonder why about 9:19 a.m., each school day, my elementary school principal was on the phone to my mother.

Three weeks into kindergarten, my teacher, Mrs. Gort, climbed to the top of the school flagpole. Poor woman's still up there. Excuse me, as I'm gonna bring her something to eat and drink. After about 50 years, I'd guess she's hungry and thirsty.

I wonder if she'd like some Cap'n Crunch and eggnog? I'll take enough for two.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

P.S. Jan...I voted for Toby Plopwhistle...school president. Hey, you asked, "So, Mark Thomas, as a Catholic, who did you vote for?" You didn't specify the election.

Gotcha!

Anonymous said...

Blogger Mark Thomas, my apologies to you for not being clear. Who did you vote for in the recent presidential US election? As you say above that you are praying for the millions of Catholic who voted for "pro-abortion Trump" I wondered who you thought was the better person to vote for, as a Catholic. I think my question is indeed pertinent to what you have stated and your demeaning of the good honest Catholics who chose to vote for Trump, as the pro-life movement promoted Trump as the candidate and the Rep party that would best advance the pro-life cause, I think we should be praying for you and other misguided Catholics who either chose not to vote or voted for another candidate as they most certainly aided the pro-abortion cause.

Jan

TJM said...

Funny that a guy who claims we are committing calumny vis-a-vis the Pope has no problem doing the same with President Trump. Even God can't resolve a contradiction per Thomas Aquinus in the Summa Theologica, but this boob can.

Mark Thomas said...

Jan said..."...my apologies to you for not being clear."

Jan, I apologize to you if I seemed harsh. I was just trying to lighten the mood with a bit of (I hope) humor. I knew that you had meant the 2016 presidential election. You were clear.

Jan said..."As you say above that you are praying for the millions of Catholic who voted for "pro-abortion Trump" I wondered who you thought was the better person to vote for, as a Catholic. I think my question is indeed pertinent to what you have stated and your demeaning of the good honest Catholics who chose to vote for Trump..."

Jan, did I say that I am "...praying for the millions of Catholic who voted for "pro-abortion Trump"...and your demeaning of the good honest Catholics who chose to vote for Trump..."?

I said the following: "I hope that the millions of Catholics who voted for pro-abortion Donald Trump will petition the Angels and Saints to pray that Donald Trump will abandon his anti-life stance in favor of the Culture of Life."

Jan, again, I said that I hope that Catholic who voted for pro-abortion Donald Trump will petition the Angels and Saints to pray for Donald Trump so that he will abandon his pro-abortion stance.

Where did I say that I was praying for Catholics who voted for Donald Trump? How does that demean Catholics?
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It is beyond comprehension that certain folks here are enraged at me for my having noted a very simple, undeniable fact: Donald Trump is pro-abortion.

Why attack me? All I did was quote Donald Trump who, last year, declared on more than one occasion his support for abortion.

I am sorry, but it is Donald Trump, not I, who is pro-abortion. Sorry, but it's Donald Trump, not I, who favors the killing of a baby who was conceived via rape, incest and, threatens, supposedly, the life of the baby's mother.

Again, all I've done is to have noted and quoted Donald Trump's very words in regard to his pro-abortion stance.

It is incredible that I'm the focus of ire for having noted Donald Trump's pro-abortion stance.

By the way, am I also wrong to hope that as Catholics, we will beg God to enlighten Donald Trump to abandon satan's Culture of Death, then join God's Culture of Life?

Am I wrong to hope that we will pray that God will enlighten Donald Trump to abandon his support for abortion?

That is what we are called to do as Catholics. Correct?

Pax.

Mark Thomas


"Abortion is not the lesser of two evils. It is a crime. It is to throw someone out in order to save another. It is a crime, an absolute evil."

— His Holiness Pope Francis, February 18, 2016 A.D.

Mark Thomas said...

Donald Trump's pro-abortion stance — he supports abortion in cases of "rape, incest, and life of the mother" — is flawed horrifically in many ways.

Examples:

-- The most obvious way is that the True Religion informs us that abortion, in any case, is an "unspeakable crime."

-- If Donald Trump has the "right" to declare that there are at least three situations ("rape, incest, and life of the mother") during which abortion is legitimate, then Person "X" possesses the same "right" to declare that abortion is legitimate in six, seven, eight situations...in any situation that Person "X" deems proper.

-- Donald Trump would be two-faced to claim that he has the right to support abortion as he see fits, but then deny that same right to Person "X" who supports abortion as Person "X" sees fit.

Donald Trump does not have the right to say, for example, that "abortion is legitimate on Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays," but then reject Person "X's" stance that "abortion is legitimate on Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays."

That would be two-faced should Donald Trump maintain that stance.

Donald Trump's stance on abortion is indefensible, according to the True Religion.

Donald Trump has built his stance on abortion upon a slippery slope...on sand. He has reserved for himself the "right" to determine when abortion is acceptable. Therefore, he must acknowledge that Person "X" is entitled to that same right.

It is clear that as usual, Holy Mother Church has proclaimed God's unassailable Truth and Wisdom. That is, in regard to abortion, said procedure is never acceptable. Otherwise, the proclamation that abortion is acceptable in situation "A" would open the door to the proclamation that abortion is acceptable in situation "B."

The illegitimate taking of human life is illegitimate, always and everywhere, as God, via His True Church, has taught unto us. Therefore, one cannot declare that the illegitimate taking of human life is acceptable on Mondays, but not on Tuesdays. However, in effect, that is the flawed approach to abortion that Donald Trump has taken.

Therefore, as Catholics, we must pray that God will enlighten President Trump to embrace His Truth in regard to abortion.

President Trump, as a child of God, is to be treated in peaceful and dignified fashion. That applies as well to unborn babies everywhere and in all situations.

President Trump (as well as his family) enjoys the right to life. As Catholics, we must pray that God will enlighten President Trump to extend that same right to unborn babies everywhere and in all situations.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

George said...

Mark Thomas:

In my comment above, I was encouraging you to read up on Catholic moral theology and the difference between formal and material co-operation with evil, along with the principle of double effect and, in addition, the difference between immediate and mediate material co-operation with evil.
Have you done so? Do you disagree with it in any way?

George said...

Mark Thomas, you want to apply a perfect standard to an imperfect world. In functioning in an imperfect world, that does not work very well and can lead to less than desirable results.You can apply a perfect standard to yourself of course, and in doing that, if you did that in the way you apply it, I don't see how you should function day to day, since you, like the rest of us, are not perfect. In applying a perfect standard, you would then have to come to grips with he fact that you, like Mr Trump and others, are not perfect, and since you have not succumbed to despair and are still with us, it is apparent that you have in some way or another have come to an accommodation with dealing your imperfections, while you are hopefully striving at the same time to become a better person. Since you function in this imperfect world, you like everyone else, have to make choices in situations where none of the options is perfect, and so you make what you consider to be the best choice, and this in part should be according to what in your judgement the results of the choice will be. It is good to consider that there are many people in the world who are not good and want to see the enaction or continuation of things that oppose God's Law, and so it is incumbent to look upon who their choice is for say, public office, and make a choice for that person who, while not perfect, is still the better viable alternative.

TJM said...

But MT has NO problem with major abortion droolers like Obama and Hillary. Disgusting double standard

Mark Thomas said...

George, I desire to apply the Church's teachings to our imperfect world.

In regard to abortion and President Trump, I presented the undeniable facts...he has declared that abortion is legitimate in various situations.

I don't understand as to why that has enraged certain folks here.

President Trump, not I, supports abortion. President Trump, not I, believes that it's legitimate to inflict, via abortion, horrific violence upon unborn babies.

Conversely, Holy Mother Church teaches that abortion is never legitimate as abortion, always and everywhere, is an "unspeakable crime."

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Pope Francis, December 25, 2014 A.D:

"My thoughts turn to all those children today who are killed and ill-treated,

******* be they infants killed in the womb, *******

deprived of that generous love of their parents and then buried in the egoism of a culture that does not love life;

be they children displaced due to war and persecution, abused and taken advantage of before our very eyes and our complicit silence. I think also of those infants massacred in bomb attacks, also those where the Son of God was born. Even today, their impotent silence cries out under the sword of so many Herods.

******* On their blood stands the shadow of contemporary Herods." *******
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Pax.

Mark Thomas

Mark Thomas said...

George, I desire to apply the Church's teachings to our imperfect world.

In regard to abortion and President Trump, I presented the undeniable facts...he has declared that abortion is legitimate in various situations.

I don't understand as to why that has enraged certain folks here.

President Trump, not I, supports abortion. President Trump, not I, believes that it's legitimate to inflict, via abortion, horrific violence upon unborn babies.

Conversely, Holy Mother Church teaches that abortion is never legitimate as abortion, always and everywhere, is an "unspeakable crime."

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Pope Francis, December 25, 2014 A.D:

"My thoughts turn to all those children today who are killed and ill-treated,

******* be they infants killed in the womb, *******

deprived of that generous love of their parents and then buried in the egoism of a culture that does not love life;

be they children displaced due to war and persecution, abused and taken advantage of before our very eyes and our complicit silence. I think also of those infants massacred in bomb attacks, also those where the Son of God was born. Even today, their impotent silence cries out under the sword of so many Herods.

******* On their blood stands the shadow of contemporary Herods." *******
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Pax.

Mark Thomas

Mark Thomas said...

TJM said..."But MT has NO problem with major abortion droolers like Obama and Hillary. Disgusting double standard"

Please do not mischaracterize me. Thank you.

Pax.

Mark Thomas

George said...



Mark Thomas:
"I desire to apply the Church's teachings to our imperfect world." That cannot always be done. You say'"I don't understand as to why that has enraged certain folks here." I'm not enraged at all. Some may take the comments you have entered as maligning them in the choices they make;that by voting for a certain person they have in your mind committed a transgression. You should understand that.
You don't seem to understand or accept that those who voted for Mr. Trump were also applying the Church's teaching. As I commented above,it is good (actually imperative) to consider that there are many people in the world who are not good and want to see the enaction or continuation of things that oppose God's Law, and so it is incumbent to look upon who their choice is for say, public office, and make a choice for that person who, while not perfect, is still the better viable alternative. You must consider whether or not that by doing things your way, the worst of the different candidates to choose among, will prevail.

Have you read up on Catholic moral theology and the difference between formal and material co-operation with evil, along with the principle of double effect and, in addition, the difference between immediate and mediate material co-operation with evil. Please do so.



Jan said...

Mark Thomas, could you tell me if you are advocating that those Catholics who voted for Hillary Clinton intercede to the angels and saints to pray for her that she will reject her pro-abortion views, or most of all pray for themselves because, after all, she is not a Catholic but they are and through their vote or non-vote have just promoted the cause of abortion.

As someone who voted for either Hillary Clinton or some other candidate or if you didn't vote at all, I don't think you are in any position to be recommending to Catholics who voted for President Trump what they should do or shouldn't do, as your vote or non-vote has only promoted abortion in the USA and there is no way even you can slide out of that - much as you might try.

It has always been pointed out by good bishops for many years now that good Catholics must use our vote to vote for the best candidate, particularly where abortion is concerned. you and many Catholics are not ignorant of that fact but you still choose to abdicate your moral duty as a Catholic and then try to squirm your way out of it.

It is pointless you condemning President Trump when you are doing more to promote abortion than he is. We need actions not words of which you always have plenty but no do obviously.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps we should be praying for the millions of liberal malcontents who showed up at the so-called "women's rallies" this past weekend---when all they wanted were liberal women, promoting the usual anti-Christian themes of abortion on demand, same-sex marriage and the like....or for these so-called civil rights "icons" like John Lewis and Andy Young who support those things...heck, the Atlanta paper even reported today that Young's daughter is going to head the Georgia ACLU, a group which may as well be equivalent to Communists as enemies of the Church.