POPE FRANCIS MODELING IRREVERSIBLE VATICAN II LITURGICAL REFORM IN CONTINUITY
Since we're speculating...Pope Benedict XVI may have met with Cardinal Bagnasco who as president of the Italian conference could be a "King-maker". If the pope convinces the good cardinal of who he thinks would be the best successor then getting the Italian block (25% of the vote) on-side would be key.Just a thought...
I am all for Cardinal Bagnasco as Pope...I believe he would continue Benedict's Liturgical direction. He would be good for the Church and the stability of continuity would most likely be assured. Let's pray for this Cardinal.
There may be something to this. The media is starting to take shots at Cardinal Bagnasco as looking like the evil Mr Burns from "The Simpsons", while proclaiming only an African Cardinal elected Pope could make the Church "relevant" again (translation: "we in the media sure do hope real Africans are as progressive as African-Americans, and an African Pope will side with Obama and go against any Church teaching and American bishop standing in Obama's way.")
I heard that Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict XVI can't drive! :P...but he does have a helicopter license, apparently!
Remember, I predicted it here first! I still think he will take the name Leo XIV or PIUS XIII. He will not take Benedict XVII, due to Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger still being alive.I'd kind of like to see a "Linus II".One other prediction I will make. If, by some unprecidented long shot, an American is elected pope, he will take the name Cletus II. An American pope just HAS to be named Cletus!
Nah, an American Pope should be named Billy Bob. It is conceivable that Benedict could appoint his successor. There is precedent...
@ Joe RSorry, old boy, I beat you to it (11 Feb at 4:55 pm).
My Polish parochial vicar who has connections in Poland says that those in the know in Poland say that the next pope has been appointed! But don't don't say by whom (Benedict or God!) Stay tuned!
Sorry, this is unrelated, but Decon Bill Steltemeier of EWTN died this morning. I'm sure many here know who he is or have met him. He is sorely missed.Rest in peace, Decon Bill.
I'm still pulling for Burke! Lol. I don't know much about this guy, but I think we REALLY need someone that is going to put dissenters in line and try and fix the liturgy.
Here is a typical response from the media. Read at your own risk.http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130215/OPINION03/302150311/Wanted-pope-who-looks-ahead-not-backward?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE%7CsThis is what the next pope has to contend with. "Catholics" who want to be socially leftist and all inclusive. This is the fruit of Vatican II, and bishops, like Detroit's John Cardinal Dearden, who led their flocks astray in the 1970s and 80s. Here in Michigan, Dearden's damage has yet to be undone, as most Cathoics in this state would agree 100% with the above article. We've had three archbishops since Dearden (Cardinal Szoka, Cardinal Maida, and currently Archbishop Vigneron). None of them in all that time have been able to undo even the slightest bit of damage to the faith and the local Church Dearden caused. This is the real challenge of the next Pope, and the future of the Church.
I am one to think we may never see another Italian elected pope. That time has passed. I see the next pope being hispanic (but not Latino), from Spain or Portugal. The problem with Latin American Cardinals is that they are too entrenched in the "spirit of Vatican II" quasi-communist "liberation theology". Spain or Portugal would give us a contender who has the hispanic heritage, yet is more traditional and orthodox in their Catholicism.I would not rule out Cardinal Pell of Australia. He has all the right credentials to be pope. English is his first language, a definate plus in today's era where English is sort of becoming the universal language... at least more so than Italian or German or French. Pell is kind of like Karol Cardinal Wojtyl in 1978... respected, but off the radar as far as anyone expecting a Pole to be elected pope. Pell could be the guy.Cardinal Ouellet, I think, would be more likely than an Italian getting elected, and I think Cardinal Ranjith has a better chance than any of the (media hyped) African cardinals, but I really think it will be either a hispanic or Cardinal Pell.
Um, it was an ad limina, nothing more.
Yah, that's what they all say.
@John Nolan,Actually, I was the first to mention Cardinal Bagnasco (Feb 11 at 10:18 AM)Then you posted you would back him, and then Joe R was the first to predict he would be elected pope.But as they say, "he who enters a conclave pope, leaves a cardinal."
If Cardinal Burke were to be elevated to the papacy he should take Benedict as his papal name. That way he could be a North American B-17!
"He who enters the conclave as a pope, leaves as a cardinal". Often quoted, but untrue. In the six conclaves since 1939, the front-runner has been elected in three of them (Pacelli, Montini, Ratzinger). Montini would probably have got it in 1958 had he been a cardinal. Both conclaves in 1978 were marked by a clear division between conservatives and liberals, and the latter organized themselves well enough to keep Siri out. Both Luciani and Wojtyla were compromise candidates. There is no such polarization now, but equally no front-runners, whatever the press and the bookmakers say.
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