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Monday, January 19, 2026

WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE PROBLEM THE TLM? CREATED A TLM ORDINARIATE AND START WITH THE FSSP!

IS THAT ROBERT CARDINAL PREVOST CELEBRATING THE TLM AND USING ROMAN VESTMENTS AND HIS GRANDMOTHERS LACE OF AN ALB?????


 It seems to me that maybe a TLM Ordinariate using the existing FSSP is one option for Pope Leo to create in dealing with the problem of the TLM and he could name bishops from the priests of the FSSP or the other orders which primarily celebrate the TLM.

Then His Holiness could allow them entry into any part of the world to set up parishes under a bishop of the TLM Ordinariate as it is done with the Anglican Ordinariate and also with the Eastern Rites, which are in Latin Rite Dioceses, but not under the Latin Rite bishop.


A TALE OF TWO GREEN LITURGIES…IN TWO CITIES…

Yesterday at two liturgical expressions of the one Roman Rite, I wore green for the first time since Christ the King Sunday in the revised Roman Calendar. 

This is the green vestment I wore for the 9 AM Bugnini Mass at Saint Gregory the Great Church in Bluffton, South Carolina. It is a parish vestment made by Holy Rood out of Massachusetts. The quality is excellent, although they take gothic vestments to an extreme and they go far over my arms and I find myself constantly pulling the vestment up so my wrists and hands are not constantly covered by it.

The 9 am Bugnini Mass was all sung, with a deacon, and as high as you can get in the Bugnini Mass, although incense wasn’t used. It is reserved for the 11 AM Bugnini Mass there. 

It was beautiful, reverent and organized. But there were no Propers chanted in Latin (which would follow what Vatican II actually taught, there wasn’t any ad orientem or kneeling for Holy Communion except for a handful of young Catholics who knelt on the hard concrete floor). But otherwise, it was a reverent, grand celebration.

The lavish use of Scriptures, called for by Vatican II and fulfilled in the Vatican II three year lectionary which adds an Old Testament readings was negated by the elimination of the Sacred Scriptures of the official Entrance Chant, and Offertory and Communion propers. 

Then I drove to Savannah, Georgia, about 30 minutes away, and a tale of two Masses concluded my Tale of Two Cities Green Day!

As you can see, it is a gothic green vestment but not swallowing the celebrant as Holy Rood vestments are wont to do or is it want to do?


There was no vernacular, except for the Scripture readings, very Vatican II, but the Propers were chanted in magnificent complicated Gregorian Chant, following what Vatican II desired for the Mass.  The laity actually participated, actual participation and everyone, except for those unable to do so, knelt at the altar railing to receive Holy Communion and did so by receiving on the tongue. No one attempted to receive in the hand and no nuns were stationed nearby with rulers to hit on the knuckles those attempting to receive in the hand!

The Mass was as high as a high Mass in the Ancient Rite allows, including the use of incense, but compared to the Solemn Sung Mass with deacon and subdeacon or the variety of pontifical Masses there are, there was just as much noble simplicity in the Ancient Mass I celebrated on Sunday as the Bugnini Mass I celebrated earlier, thus both Masses fulfilled Vatican II’s call for “noble simplicity!” Praise God from Whom all noble simplicity flows!

And of course, even though the Ancient one year Lectionary was used that excludes an additional Scripture Reading at the Liturgy of the Word, aka, Mass of Catechumens, the lavish use of Scripture, asked by Vatican II was maintained by not eliminating the Propers, which are Sacred Scripture! The elimination of the Scriptures of the Propers occurred earlier at my Bugnini Green Mass, failing to follow what Vatican II taught about the lavish use of Sacred Scriptures!

We did sing a vernacular hymn as the recessional and no one left the church until the last verse was completed. 

A TALE OF TWO GREEN MASSES IN DIFFERENT FORMS OF THE ONE ROMAN RITE!














AMEN TO Tm!


Below is a comment by Tm about his love of the Bugnini Mass but also his desire for it to be “refined/reformed” to recover the spiritual and reverential ethos of the TLM. 

I applaud his recommendations. I would also add that in the Church, most things are not either/or, but rather, both/and. 

It is for the health of the Church, her relationship with her Master, that we have both forms of the one Roman Rite and both celebrated well and in continuity with each other in Substance, style and the ethos of reverence. There is no need for a discontinuity in Catholic devotion and reverence when it comes to the two forms of the one Roman Rite. 

God willing Pope Leo will recognize this, as did his great “doctor of the Church/doctor of the liturgy” predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI.

This is TM’s comment from another post:

I grew up with the “New Mass”. The Mass was in the midst of being changed/revised when I was born so I don’t know anything different. I’m comfortable with it, it comforts me, it fortifies me. I just wish that the communion rails would come back, I wish the Mass were celebrated as written and NOT how some priest thinks he can improve it. I wish beautiful vestments and incense would be used. I wish the sanctuaries were uncluttered. I wish the priest would celebrate with more reverence. And the Latin…I wish that certain parts would always be in Latin….Sanctus, Angus Dei, Gloria, and the Pater Noster when sung. And the altar servers need to actually know what they are doing. Liturgical abuse MUST be addressed and stopped. If these small things were done it would go a long way in ending the liturgy wars.

Sunday, January 18, 2026

MY FIRST GREEN SUNDAY SINCE CHRIST THE KING!

 Almost ready for the 9 AM Bugnini Mass at Saint Gregory the Great Church, Bluffton, South Carolina…




WHERE IS THE NEED FOR THE REAL IRON FIST TO PREVENT AN ACTUAL SCHISM IN THE CHURCH? HINT: IT ISN’T THOSE WHO WANT THE TLM OR IN THE BUGNINI RITE, KNEELING FOR HOLY COMMUNION AND MASS AD ORIENTEM!



So much smoke screen, faux-hysteria is directed towards TLM communities and those parishes that celebrate the Bugnini Mass by the book, ad orientem and kneeling for Holy Communion. We already know how harshly Pope Francis treated these Catholics and in my own province of Atlanta, the Conventual Franciscan bishop in Charlotte is using Orwellian measures to crush traditional minded Catholics, who are orthodox by the way, and force them into a uniformity in the most rigid pre-Vatican II authoritarian way possible. 

But the Italian journal, “Il Giornale” hits the nail on the head about the true schism in the Church that needs more than Orwellian means to crush it but no crushing thus far has taken place. Pope Francis called them out but coddled them at the same time and things continue to spiral toward schism. 

Yet, the harshest measures are taken against orthodox traditionalists, an Orwellian smoke screen to mask the real problem. One wonders if the harshest measures against traditionalists is to neutralize grassroots pushback against heterodox/heretical Catholics, in high places, who want the Catholic Church to be a different Church. 

Where are we talking about? GERMANY, the home of the Protestant Reformation in the 1500’s is fomenting another world-wide schism, much nastier than their first one, as nasty as that was. 

For many in the Vatican, the German Synodal Church was moving too fast but in the right direction. Pope Francis wanted the synod on synodality to move in a more stealthy way, beginning processes that would eventually lead to where Germany arrived way too quickly. The Pope Francis’ synodlalty, while feigning orthodoxy, created so many cracks in the dam of orthodoxy that everyone knew what the end point would be—the Church would be like Germany’s Church about to become. Germany is more honest in arriving at the logical conclusion of synodality. 

While the FSSPX and even sedevacantists are in an irregular union with the pope, or, outright schism, they are not heretical unlike the looming German schism which is as heterodox and heretical, not to mention, schismatic, as you can get! 

Yet, you have heterodox left leaning Catholics around the world screaming at traditional minded Catholics and demonizing them. It really is a smokescreen, no? And that smoke—it’s the smoke of Satan. 

This is the “Il Giornale” commentary:

Schism in Berlin, Leo’s High-Stakes Game

By Nico Spuntoni

The German nuncio meets the Pope. Unpublished letter from Ratzinger to Cardinal Marx.


Germany is where the most explosive dossier Leo XIV inherited from Francis is being played out. Neither the Jubilee year nor the conclave has halted what Cardinal Gerhard Müller has defined as the “process of Protestantization” of the Catholic Church in Germany. And while Rome has so far bided its time in the face of the continual steps forward from beyond the Rhine, now the knots are coming to a head.


In the coming hours the Pope is expected to receive Archbishop Nikola Eterović, apostolic nuncio to Berlin. It is inevitable that the conversation will be dominated by the imminent vote of the German Bishops’ Conference on the Statute of the Synodal Conference.


This is a project, already approved by the highly powerful Central Committee of German Catholics, that will give rise to a permanent body in which lay people will be placed on an equal footing with bishops. This Synodal Conference will have decision-making power and will be able to introduce changes to doctrine by majority vote, forcing those who dissent to provide a public justification. Moreover, the Conference will take over the management of the financial resources of the extremely wealthy German Church.


All this is exactly what the Holy See feared would happen in 2019, when the contested Synodal Path was launched in Germany and the current prefect of the Dicastery for Bishops, Archbishop Filippo Iannone, wrote to the then head of the German Bishops’ Conference, Cardinal Reinhard Marx, warning that issues such as ordained ministries for women, the separation of powers between laity and clergy, and priestly celibacy “do not concern the Church in Germany but the universal Church and, with few exceptions, cannot be the object of deliberations or decisions by a particular Church.”


Over these years the German bishops have repeatedly ignored Rome’s warnings. Their objective, however, appears to go further and would seek to trigger a German “contagion” in the rest of the Church. This is demonstrated by the recent consistory in the Vatican in which — as we can reveal — Cardinal Marx intervened to express the hope of arriving very soon at the female diaconate. The cardinal is the principal architect of the German synodal process and has retained his leadership even after being replaced at the head of the Bishops’ Conference.


Today Il Giornale can reveal an unprecedented episode involving Marx: in 2021, in fact, Benedict XVI made himself heard by his successor as Archbishop of Munich and Freising to express his “great concern” about the synodal process in Germany. Vatican sources confirm to us that in his final years Ratzinger was deeply skeptical about the direction taken by the German Church and was convinced that “this Path will do harm and will end badly if it is not stopped.” Marx ignored the appeal of the Pope emeritus, who a few months later was heavily discredited in his homeland because of a report on abuses commissioned precisely by the Archdiocese of Munich, without being defended by his successor in office.


Now it is Leo XIV’s turn. He receives support from the report presented by Cardinal Mario Grech to the consistory, which states that “it always belongs to the Bishop of Rome, if necessary, to suspend the synodal process.” Prevost shares Benedict XVI’s misgivings, but if he does not have the strength to say “no” to the Synodal Conference project, the risk is that the German landslide may become, for the universal Church, an avalanche called schism.


Saturday, January 17, 2026

MANY TAKE OFFENSE AT THE TERM “NERVOUS DISORDER” TO DESCRIBE THE FABRICATED MASS OF BUGNINI, THE 1969 ROMAN MISSAL, BUT, WHAT WOULD WE SAY OF THE EASTERN RITE IF BUGNINI HAD DONE TO IT WHAT HE DID TO THE 1962 ROMAN MISSAL?



 I copy below what is at Fr. Z’s blog. It makes a great point, because Bishop Bugnini, with St. Pope Paul VI’s promulgation, did to the 1962 Roman Missal what he might have done to the Eastern Rite St. John Chrysostom Divine Liturgy if he had the chance and authority to do so:

Peter Kwasniewski invites a mind experiment.

Let us run with this thought experiment for a moment. Imagine the Divine Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom as our starting point. Now, take away most of the litanies; substitute a newly-composed anaphora (with only the words of consecration remaining the same); change the troparia, kontakia, prokeimena, and readings; greatly reduce the priestly prayers, incensations, and signs of reverence; and while we’re at it, hand cup and spoon to the laity, so they can tuck in like grown-ups. [By the way, I recently published at NLM two satirical posts that presented, in detail, such a “reform” of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom: see here and here.]

Would anyone in his right mind say that this is still the Byzantine Divine Liturgy in any meaningful sense of the term?

Sure, it might be “valid,” but it would be a different rite, a different liturgy.

Just for good measure, let’s say we also remove the iconostasis, turn the priest around, take away some of his vestments and substitute ugly ones, and replace all the common tones of the ordinary chants with new melodies reminiscent of Broadway show tunes and anti-Vietnam folk songs. Now we’d have not only a different rite but a totally different experience. It is not the same phenomenon; it is not the same idea (in Newman’s sense of the word “idea”); it is not the expres­sion of the same worldview; indeed, it is not the same religion, if we take the word in the strict meaning of the virtue by which we give honor to God through external words, actions, and signs.

We are our rites.

Change the rites and, over time, the content of what people who attend those rites will change.

Once their belief changes, their behavior will change.

This is an AI description of the Order of the St. John Chrysostom Divine Liturgy:

 The Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom is the main Eucharistic service in Eastern Orthodox and Byzantine Catholic Churches, divided into the Liturgy of the Word (readings, hymns, sermons) and the Liturgy of the Eucharist (Great Entrance, Anaphora/Eucharistic Prayer, Communion, Dismissal). Key parts include the Great Litany, Antiphons, the Little Entrance with the Gospel, Epistle/Gospel readings, the Trisagion hymn, the Creed, the Eucharistic Prayer over the gifts, the Our Father, Communion, and final prayers and dismissal. 

Structure of the Liturgy
1. Preparation (Off-stage/Prothesis)
  • Priest and Deacon prepare the bread and wine (the gifts). 
2. Liturgy of the Word (Liturgy of the Catechumens)
  • Opening Blessing: "Blessed is the Kingdom...".
  • Great Litany: Series of petitions for the world, Church, and people.
  • Antiphons: Psalms sung in response to petitions, often with hymns.
  • Little Entrance: Procession with the Gospel Book, often with the hymn "Only-Begotten Son".
  • Trisagion Hymn: "Holy God, Holy Mighty, Holy Immortal" (sung before readings).
  • Epistle Reading: From the New Testament (Acts, Epistles).
  • Gospel Reading: From the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John).
  • Homily/Sermon: Explanation of the readings. 
3. Liturgy of the Eucharist (Liturgy of the Faithful)
  • Great Entrance: Priest and Deacon process with the prepared gifts (bread and wine) to the altar.
  • Anaphora (Eucharistic Prayer): The central prayer of consecration, including the Cherubic Hymn, the Sursum Corda, Sanctus, Words of Institution, and Epiclesis.
  • Creed (Symbol of Faith): Recitation of the Nicene Creed.
  • Our Father: The Lord's Prayer.
  • Fraction & Preparation for Communion: Breaking the bread, prayers over the gifts.
  • Holy Communion: Distribution of the consecrated bread and wine. 
  • Post-Communion Prayers: Prayers of thanksgiving.
  • Final Blessing & Dismissal: "Let us depart in peace...". 
This liturgy is a central, festive celebration of Christ's sacrifice and resurrection, rich in symbolism, prayer, and scripture, emphasizing unity and participation.