tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post9124353872312861719..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: A COUPLE OF NEWSWORTHY COMMENTARIES ON PRE-VATICAN II SENSIBILITIESFr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-58578137363397029472021-10-28T07:36:03.332-04:002021-10-28T07:36:03.332-04:00I think the response was to harsh only if you cons...I think the response was to harsh only if you consider it a theological or liturgical centered response. It is merely an asymmetric response to a political foe: if you don’t shut up I’ll burn your business. That is how thugs and peronists work. rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00661998350597126663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-21843694850244880162021-10-28T07:08:31.955-04:002021-10-28T07:08:31.955-04:00That’s the problem with 1960’s progressives who ar...That’s the problem with 1960’s progressives who are the old guard in power today, they dogmatize a pastoral council and its 1960’s issues of they considered to be the modern world, which is not the modern world of today. They also dogmatize pastoral theology, a new endeavor that entered seminaries in the 1970’s. I had many, many, courses in pastoral theology at my seminary and they were boring, lightweight and inane often. We didn’t need courses on pastoral theology only seminars or lectures at the rector’s weekly conference, but these became classes. One the most notorious and boring of pastoral theology professors we had was the now deceased (late) whistle blower, former Benedictine of St. John Abby, married as our professor to a former solemnly professed nun, Richard Sipe. He was insipid and thought that having his children bring up the gifts at Mass was to the post-Vatican II Mass what the bells were for children at the pre-Vatican II Mass. He was also infatuated if not obsessed with Mother Teresa. <br />I am not opposed to being pastoral and while I love dogmatic clarity, I do not see dogma as something that should be used as a board to hit people over the head who fall short, especially in the areas of morality, but the clarity is needed for everyone, not watered down mush. Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-50349111986941295192021-10-28T05:41:12.879-04:002021-10-28T05:41:12.879-04:00I think this is a good time to remember the words ...I think this is a good time to remember the words of Good (some say "Saint") Paul VI, spoken on January 12, 1966, regarding the Second Vatican Council:<br /><br />"There are those who ask what authority, what theological qualification the Council intended to give to its teachings, knowing that it avoided issuing solemn dogmatic definitions engaging the infallibility of the ecclesiastical Magisterium. The answer is known by whoever remembers the conciliar declaration of March 6, 1964, repeated on November 16, 1964: given the Council’s pastoral character, it avoided pronouncing, in an extraordinary manner, dogmas endowed with the note of infallibility."<br /><br />Thank you Pope Paul! And I accept the clarity of those words and publicly affirm that I accept EVERY INFALLIBLE STATEMENT OF VATICAN II! ALL OF THEM!<br /><br />(You can do the math)<br />Jerome Merwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06683692768402865052noreply@blogger.com