tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post8997636885563986270..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: IS THE SPIRIT OF VATICAN II AND AN IDEOLOGY OF THE PHRASE “THE GOD OF SURPRISES” THE CAUSE OF THE HERESY, APOSTASY AND SCHISM HAPPENING IN SLOW MOTION IN GERMANY AND OTHER COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD?Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-75701633530778766082021-04-17T13:58:20.934-04:002021-04-17T13:58:20.934-04:00Here's another take on God being found in the ...Here's another take on God being found in the "spirit of our times!"<br /><br />“God is more within than without; He is to be found in ourselves, in the spirit of our times” Wow. So God is to be found in the spirit of our times? In abortion, euthanasia, easy divorce, contraception, approval of same sex unions, men using women’s bathrooms, total lockdown and isolation due to a disease with a 99.7% survival rate?"Pierrenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-11918207982880121972021-04-17T09:09:06.756-04:002021-04-17T09:09:06.756-04:00The ideological use of “God of surprises” by liber...The ideological use of “God of surprises” by liberals in the Church, I mean heterodox, is far from what you describe in Scripture, but yes, as it concerns them, the heterodox, they are “trying to make God fit (their) categories.” Well said (written)!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-79100909879143352962021-04-17T09:02:00.935-04:002021-04-17T09:02:00.935-04:00"The God of Surprises" is nothing new.
..."The God of Surprises" is nothing new.<br /><br />Moses was surprised by God to discover the Divine Presence in the burning bush.<br /><br />Abraham was surprised by God's command to sacrifice his son, and further surprised to find a ram in the thicket.<br /><br />Naaman the Syrian was surprised by God when he was sent, not to the king of Israel, but to the prophet Elisha. He was further surprised to find the cure for his skin ailment in bathing seven times in the Jordan. He wondered aloud whether the Abana and the Pharpar, the rivers of Damascus, were not superior waters.<br /><br />No, the "God of Surprises" is the God we serve. Our struggle is to wrap out mortal minds around the ways God works, rather than trying to make God fit our categories.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-87819391891442958882021-04-17T08:50:08.985-04:002021-04-17T08:50:08.985-04:00 As Fr. Reese says, “More important than the trans... As Fr. Reese says, “More important than the transformation of the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ is the transformation of the community into the body of Christ so we can live out the covenant we have through Christ.”<br /><br />i suspect that Father Reese is my age, maybe a bit older, but what you quote he wrote is so stereotypical of 1970’s sacramental theology. Don’t get me wrong though, it is not wrong but its promotion was wrong. Those teaching this did so to denigrate transubstantiation which had fallen out of favor with modern theologians of the 1970’s. They felt that the focus should be not on the bread and wine and gazing on the “Species” which is vertical, but purely horizontal. Pope Benedict nailed it in his critique of post-Vatican II Sacramental theology.<br /><br />While I have to say that I got both heterodox and orthodox sacramental theology at my seminary, the ultimate teachers were those who celebrated Mass. Again, some did it by the book, others did not. Most would not genuflect during Mass and it had only been 10 years at the most since the Ordinary Form had be introduced which reduced the number of genuflections in the Mass. These priests did none, nor did they elevate the Host or Chalice. No magic moments in the Eucharistic Prayer as the whole prayer was to be seen as important but certainly not magical.<br /><br />Of course it isn’t either the community being transformed or the Bread and Wine transformed, it is both and. However, we can never presume that the community is transformed due to sin and corruption, we can presume in Faith that the Bread and Wine are transformed/consecrated/transubtantiated. Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-44496708613021949812021-04-17T08:22:26.823-04:002021-04-17T08:22:26.823-04:00Well in keeping with the theme, this is how some &...Well in keeping with the theme, this is how some "progressives" view traditionalists. And no this is not sarcasm:<br /><br />"What traditionalists are doing may appear peaceful, but we progressives know it is violent. They are violently tearing the focus of religion away from our utopia of love, tolerance, and well-being. They are setting their sights on something otherworldly, something outside, something higher. Their every genuflection is in rude defiance of the dogma we’ve so carefully instilled in the Church: God is more within than without; He is to be found in ourselves, in the spirit of our times, in the community, in interaction with other human beings. As Fr. Reese says, “More important than the transformation of the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ is the transformation of the community into the body of Christ so we can live out the covenant we have through Christ.”Pierrenoreply@blogger.com