tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post8829633848952391139..comments2024-03-28T18:02:12.286-04:00Comments on southern orders: SHOULD THERE BE A DIFFERENCE IN HOW A PONTIFICAL MASS IS CELEBRATED COMPARED TO A HIGH MASS AN AVERAGE, LOWLY, HUMBLE PRIEST WOULD CELEBRATE?Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-83483363735346049012018-03-11T11:23:25.899-04:002018-03-11T11:23:25.899-04:00When I was confirmed, prior to Vatican Disaster II...When I was confirmed, prior to Vatican Disaster II, there was no Mass. Our parish where the Missa Cantata was the norm, did not have the means of having a Pontifical High Mass. In our diocese, it was only done at the CathedralTJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-66735765925407137832018-03-11T05:33:59.661-04:002018-03-11T05:33:59.661-04:00A Pontifical High Mass would have not usually have...A Pontifical High Mass would have not usually have been celebrated in a parish setting since few parishes could muster the necessary resources. When the bishop visited, he administered Confirmation, but not (as now) in the context of a Mass. In a cathedral, an auxiliary or visiting bishop would celebrate at the faldstool.<br /><br />The permission for a bishop to celebrate a sung Mass in the same way as an ordinary priest dates from 1964. In recent years the Oratorians in England have reintroduced elements of the old ceremonial into the OF, including a throne at the Gospel side, traditional vesture, deacons at the throne, an Assistant Priest and a bugia bearer. No bishops have objected!<br /><br />A pre-1964 Pontifical High Mass can seem rather fussy, and unless everyone is so used to doing it that they can do it automatically (rarely the case nowadays) it can appear self-conscious, even messy. <br /><br />A Pontifical Low Mass is easier to stage; I have seen two recently in my area, one celebrated by Cardinal Burke, the other by the current Archbishop of Birmingham. Even so, the participants need to know their roles. John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-48460154440978368882018-03-10T13:52:54.852-05:002018-03-10T13:52:54.852-05:00In the internet age, some of the visuals from a Po...In the internet age, some of the visuals from a Pontifical Mass are more harmful than helpful for the greater project of rescuing liturgical reverence.Rood Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816036539243214384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-74580443516748647862018-03-10T11:30:56.273-05:002018-03-10T11:30:56.273-05:00“The Prayers at the Foot of the Altar are recited ...“The Prayers at the Foot of the Altar are recited quietly as the schola chants the Introit...”<br /><br />That’s how it is at every High Mass, bishop or not. <br /><br />The bishop stays mainly at the throne for the entirety of the first part of the mass. He also gives different greetings: “Pax vobiscum.” And he gives the triple blessing at the end. And the bishop wears his stole down while priests where their stoles crossed: this symbolizes the priests being yoked to the bishop. <br /><br />Another interesting detail: The bishop preaches while seated, if he’s within his jurisdiction. Marchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13510317669833026685noreply@blogger.com