tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post8791333863380932153..comments2024-03-28T09:14:32.869-04:00Comments on southern orders: I THINK THIS DENVER VICAR FORANE (DEAN) PRETTY WELL NAILS IT!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-91898208988666273742015-03-11T17:45:30.486-04:002015-03-11T17:45:30.486-04:00JBS And the bishop of Lincoln, Jim Conley, was al...JBS And the bishop of Lincoln, Jim Conley, was also our classmate. Yes, we had interesting tomes....<br />Fr. Michael J. Kavanaughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-14778671870159416002015-03-11T16:26:10.382-04:002015-03-11T16:26:10.382-04:00Father Kavanaugh,
No way! Must have been and int...Father Kavanaugh,<br /><br />No way! Must have been and interesting class! Rood Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816036539243214384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-10135790971600134702015-03-11T09:24:23.105-04:002015-03-11T09:24:23.105-04:00To be "pastoral" comes from the root wor...To be "pastoral" comes from the root word "pastor". Our Pastor is Jesus Christ. So when we stand "in loco pastoris" we stand for Christ and ought to lead people TO Christ.<br /><br />Anything that does not lead souls to know, love, and serve Jesus Christ as we know him from the scripture, tradition and magisterial teachings of the Church down through the ages (vs. random theories spun by 'theologians'), is not 'pastoral' but various forms of heresy or false witness.<br /><br />You can't slap the name "pastoral" on ANYTHING and be accurate. But that's the conceit of many: they declare any heresy at odds with doctrine as OK on the grounds that they are being 'pastoral'.<br /><br />It's one thing to be tactful and gently lead souls towards the truth in a Socratic step by step fashion. But it's quite another to give into human respect and cover an actual capitulation to their doctrine as 'pastoral'...especially when one never gets around to challenging their error or leading them to the truth! <br /><br />How many pastors counsel married couples to "follow your conscience on contraception" in confession? I know of some here in the diocese who have told people it's OK, wink wink, nod nod. But how is that "pastoral"?<br /><br />It would be one thing if the counsel was "wean yourself off the Pill, talk this over with your Husband..." such that the pastor is leading the soul BACK TO "THE PASTOR" JC and not just rubber stamping the sexual revolution's idol of EROS.<br /><br />Or what if a man confesses to masturbation? A kind pastoral approach may be to affirm the truth that this is sinful... but also that there are many factors involved that CAN lessen one's culpability and make it a hard habit to overcome....but that it CAN be overcome and then provide suggestions and encouragement to frequent confession and adoration and altruism to get the soul from self-focus and direct one's energies to the good of others....<br /><br />It is NOT a "pastoral solution" to encourage him to not worry about it since it's 'healthy' so long as it doesn't become obsessive (that's essentially the secular world's opinion which is at odds with Catholic moral teaching, the saints and mystics etc.)<br /><br />Being pastoral means bringing people to Christ. It doesn't mean leading sheep, period. After all, many shepherds are bad and lead sheep to wolves or worse.<br />JusadBellumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-30777859005490203282015-03-11T00:46:38.420-04:002015-03-11T00:46:38.420-04:00Perhaps one can become so pastoral that evil is cl...Perhaps one can become so pastoral that evil is cloaked in the processes and that good is lost in the quagmire of words.<br /><br />No wonder the permissives are having a field day. These documents speak in their language.<br /><br />I hope and pray these words are guided by the Holy Spirit.Paulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-16415406941184151472015-03-10T16:23:56.184-04:002015-03-10T16:23:56.184-04:00Jim Jackson, FSSP. My seminary classmate......Jim Jackson, FSSP. My seminary classmate......Fr. Michael J. Kavanaughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-43934480137115261102015-03-10T16:17:11.052-04:002015-03-10T16:17:11.052-04:00It appears that the VF is the recipient of the let...It appears that the VF is the recipient of the letter, rather than its author. Rood Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816036539243214384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-53458114582930569262015-03-10T13:14:53.787-04:002015-03-10T13:14:53.787-04:00Actually, that may not all be "fresh air&quo...Actually, that may not all be "fresh air", rcg...The deep breath in Denver may contain a bit of "weed".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-37242804160511559432015-03-10T12:49:59.535-04:002015-03-10T12:49:59.535-04:00Vatican Council II assimilated the modernist agend...<br />Vatican Council II assimilated the modernist agenda championed by western theologians. The Iists of carefully chosen words and phrases in its documents lead to questioning of long accepted doctrines. The questioning never stopped. As a result many lost the faith. Many left the Church.<br /><br />The Synod on the family last October, gave conclusive evidence of the Episcopal disarray in the Universal Church. Disunity among bishops first became painfully evident during the Council proceedings and has continued unabated ever since. The revolutionary majority has been running the show since then, although John Paul II and Benedict XVI have made brave attempts to correct problems.<br /><br />John Paul II appointed many faithful bishops. In addition, Benedict XVI, in his 'reform of the reform' initiative made a theologically valiant attempt to reconcile the pre- and post conciliar Church teachings. He was obstructed in this effort unfortunately. His untimely resignation left the Church with many unresolved issues and reopened some that were thought settled.<br /><br />Unfortunately, the present papacy is doctrinally incapable of averting a growing disaster, mainly because it has been adding ideological fuel to a host of problems we face in our post conciliar Catholic Church. <br /><br />God help us! I believe only he can. <br /> Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-59364383920216889482015-03-10T12:05:53.213-04:002015-03-10T12:05:53.213-04:00Lots of fresh air in Denver. Breathe deeply.Lots of fresh air in Denver. Breathe deeply.rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.com