tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post8778962604968068471..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: HOW DID THE CHURCH AND BY CHURCH, THE CLERGY AND LAITY, KEEP THE SEX ABUSE SCANDAL QUIET WHICH THEN ALLOWED IT TO VICTIMIZE SO MANY IN THE CHURCH IN THE MOST VILE WAY? Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-39743480362766355362018-08-06T21:10:39.123-04:002018-08-06T21:10:39.123-04:00If the Church through its bishops and the pope had...If the Church through its bishops and the pope had been doing its job and properly dealing with criminal behaviour within its ranks, the approach of keeping things quiet would be more justifiable. But it is undeniably clear that the popes and bishops failed and continue to fail the faithful in the most spectacular manner possible, and there is, in my opinion, no justification to keep things secret. The secrecy merely permits the filth to continue which in turn, creates more victims.<br /><br />These days, it is exposure to the light that induces positive action. In other words, the hands of weak and sinful members of the Church hierarchy must be forced into action if anything serious is to be done about this mess. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-27431996516431820872018-08-06T12:13:00.472-04:002018-08-06T12:13:00.472-04:00Father, I was a parishioner of Father Jim Haley in...Father, I was a parishioner of Father Jim Haley in St. Lawrence in Springfield, Virginia. Father Haley is a great guy and wrongfully, wickedly treated by his Bishop. Too bad Loverde's successor does not have the guts to rehabilitate Father Jim<br />James Ignatius McAuleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16170178446627560622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-92118229971871489882018-08-06T11:06:13.324-04:002018-08-06T11:06:13.324-04:00There were plenty of really bad people in the cler...There were plenty of really bad people in the clergy throughout the history of the Church. They often held positions of power for really long times, even as Pope. That situation changed back and forth, but Vatican II seems to act as a milestone for making the problem systemic and is cited as a reason for tolerance and dialogue with people like Mr., nee, Cardinal McCarrick. <br /><br />It is common practice that information of a sensitive nature be held close and that its release be well considered before acting. If the organization was trying to hide, cover up, or protect the bad actor then the organization is damning itself. If they are acting responsibly to deal with it as far and best they can before it is released, then they are being exemplar. All of this is bringing The Inferno to mind. This helps me understand why the lower levels of Hell were not for the simple sins of the fleah, but the sins of the will and mind. McCarrick’s zipper failed him, his mitre enabled him. His peers are in big trouble, too. rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-88493553914772179562018-08-06T09:13:38.686-04:002018-08-06T09:13:38.686-04:00Well, we can't blame Vatican 2 for all the Chu...Well, we can't blame Vatican 2 for all the Church woes these days. Turns out the former Cardinal McCarrick was ordained in 1958---before Vatican 2---unless we assume his bad tendencies developed during Vatican 2. And in central Pennsylvania, (Harrisburg), the bishop there is lamenting scandals that go back to...the 1970s? Nope. 1960s? Nope again? How about the 1940s? And anything in his diocese named for bishops, well, he wants those names removed, saying they did nothing about scandals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-1262730544403011592018-08-06T08:01:00.297-04:002018-08-06T08:01:00.297-04:00The priest referred to in your (A) item is Fr. Jam...The priest referred to in your (A) item is Fr. James Haley. There is far, far more to this sordid tale than you may realize. The portion you quote gives a very slanted view of what happened.<br /><br />As we all know, the way such matters were handled - mishandled, really - by almost all organizations, including the Church, was to keep the matter quiet and take ineffective remedial steps to get the "offender" out of the scene. <br /><br />We've learned that 1) simply moving the offending employee, priest or not and 2) hiding the mater from the public is a very bad plan. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com