tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post8139948026031609265..comments2024-03-28T05:17:04.006-04:00Comments on southern orders: WHEREAS CARDINAL ROCHE SHOULD PRAISE BLOGGERS FOR THEIR LITURGICAL INFLUENCE, ESPECIALLY WITH SEMINARIANS AND YOUNG PRIESTS, RATHER THAN DENIGRATE THEM—BEING POSITIVE IS A SIGN OF THE SYNODAL HOLY SPIRIT AND INFALLIBLE!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-80969448952149104742023-02-01T09:50:28.831-05:002023-02-01T09:50:28.831-05:00monkmcg,
Indeed. You can find statements of the R...monkmcg,<br /><br />Indeed. You can find statements of the Roche praising the TLM and Summorum Pontificum, but that was under prior management. And these clowns wonder why people either ignore them or just simply walk away. TJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07280218128963202431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-3995824150273685792023-02-01T06:35:49.922-05:002023-02-01T06:35:49.922-05:00The Cardinal is, sadly, just another ecclesial pol...The Cardinal is, sadly, just another ecclesial politician. He says whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear and believes whatever will advance his career.monkmcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12198826311049534294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-72655106834807325932023-01-31T17:17:41.112-05:002023-01-31T17:17:41.112-05:00rcg,
Vatican II did not mandate any particular ch...rcg,<br /><br />Vatican II did not mandate any particular changes to the liturgy but provided a general framework for how to proceed, which was not followed. The fact this document exists evidences that the hierarchy believed there were some deficienies with the Old Form. I was around then and never understood the need for "reform" when we were packing them in each Sunday, stark contrast to our situation now. After all, I had my Missal and Kyriale and was being properly trained to activitely participate. That is why it is frustrating when lefties invoke Vatican II to justify what THEY wanted to do.<br /><br /> <br /><br />TJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07280218128963202431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-61764430932902742792023-01-31T15:03:21.666-05:002023-01-31T15:03:21.666-05:00TJM, thanks for answering. My point is that I don...TJM, thanks for answering. My point is that I don't think Vatican II mandated changes to Liturgy, but opened a door to review. I still do not see any declaration that the Old Form was deficient in any way, so by what reason is it suppressed? What makes it less acceptable than any of the Babel of liturgical practices that have spread like seeds on stoney paths, only to sprout quickly and die?rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00661998350597126663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-32839091651179417652023-01-31T11:03:35.028-05:002023-01-31T11:03:35.028-05:00These doubleknit dinosaurs are emotionally investe...These doubleknit dinosaurs are emotionally invested in a liturgical "reform" which has been an abject failure. Their hubris and arrogance is breathtaking.<br /><br />Maybe we would take them more seriously if they did something about the Saint Sabina's of the world and suppressed the myriad of options in the Novus Ordo Missae which promotes disunity, not unity.TJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07280218128963202431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-66843265814406556422023-01-31T10:42:19.948-05:002023-01-31T10:42:19.948-05:00Father McDonald said..."As a keyboard Warrior...Father McDonald said..."As a keyboard Warrior (l like that name, btw)..."<br /><br />An article last year in National Catholic Register echoed Cardinal Roche's concerns in regard to TLM "keyboard warriors."<br /><br />From the National Catholic Register's article:<br /><br />https://www.ncregister.com/news/traditionis-custodes-one-year-later-brings-new-pastoral-realities-and-challenges<br /><br />"Alex Begin, executive producer of EWTN’s Extraordinary Faith, told the Register that the older form has grown in the Detroit metro area by having a collaborative relationship with diocesan chanceries and strengthening evangelization."<br /><br />"We have to be a positive addition to their existence."<br /><br />"Begin, however, explained that while every community has its “cranks,” the loud, toxic voices online claiming affiliation with the TLM community represent only themselves."<br /><br />"They do not represent the Catholics who have dedicated time, talent and treasure to build living Catholic communities around the older Roman Rite and have the most to lose by not cultivating positive relationships needed to sustain them within their dioceses."<br /><br />"The people who are ‘keyboard warriors’ aren’t the ones who get things done here," Begin said. <br /><br />The online, TLM, "keyboard warriors," have inflicted serious damage upon the TLM movement.<br /><br />Unfortunately, the ruinous TLM "keyboard warriors" have their share of supporters within TLM communities. <br /><br />"Keyboard warriors" have been invited as speakers to FSSP parishes, as well as additional TLM communities, and conferences. <br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark ThomasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-14133929661130902432023-01-31T10:19:08.836-05:002023-01-31T10:19:08.836-05:00Sacrosanctum Concilium laid the groundwork for the...Sacrosanctum Concilium laid the groundwork for the “reform.” It was not adhere to by the Paul VI’s “committee.”TJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07280218128963202431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-9015000763225534912023-01-31T08:59:59.310-05:002023-01-31T08:59:59.310-05:00Did Vatican II decree changes to the Liturgy?Did Vatican II decree changes to the Liturgy?rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00661998350597126663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-86148293088009678172023-01-31T08:55:54.775-05:002023-01-31T08:55:54.775-05:00It really does not matter what the Roche says, my ...It really does not matter what the Roche says, my young pastor who celebrates the TLM is going to be around decades after these apostates are but a bad memoryTJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07280218128963202431noreply@blogger.com