tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post7725690526781191750..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: A VERY RESPECTFUL CRITIQUE OF THE JOY OF LOVE BY FATHER FESSIO--A JESUIT AND GANGFr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-43604017074360694262016-04-15T07:33:04.045-04:002016-04-15T07:33:04.045-04:00Some Catholics I know are calling it "The Joy...Some Catholics I know are calling it "The Joy of Sex."Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-89449670757967303052016-04-14T21:46:53.676-04:002016-04-14T21:46:53.676-04:00Father Brian Harrison expresses my concerns here:
...Father Brian Harrison expresses my concerns here:<br /><br />https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/priest-pope-francis-pastoral-revolution-goes-against-2000-years-of-traditio<br /><br />I always took comfort in Fr. Harrison's assessment of the Catechism of the Catholic Church that its contents demonstrated that the Deposit of Faith survived intact all the post Vatican II Conciliar disruptions. That is why his assessment of AL disturbs me a great deal.Charles Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-55697785253969777092016-04-14T18:11:57.560-04:002016-04-14T18:11:57.560-04:00
I listened to this. It was an excellent discussio...<br />I listened to this. It was an excellent discussion of the exhortation, especially the problematic parts.Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05809499822558662728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-63256557660087193952016-04-14T14:18:04.397-04:002016-04-14T14:18:04.397-04:00I have listened to the entire discussion beautiful...I have listened to the entire discussion beautifully done by the Ignatius staff. The theologian, Fr. Fessio, impressed me with his desire to say the best that he could about the document and because he is a true expert on Church teachings I particularly value his present contribution.<br /><br />Fr. Fessio's emphasizes the puzzling way the Pope utilizes abstract linguistic formulations to obscure clear teachings. This method of rhetoric leaves a false impression when the writer talks about apples and oranges being the same because both are fruits.<br /><br />To wit, in the document, The Joy of Love, it is noted somewhere that first marriages and post divorce civil marriages may be equally in need of perfecting because they fall short of the ideal Christian marriage. This statement is true but confusing because improvement in first case in theory is always possible, but civil marriage after divorce can be improved only if the parties in it accept to live as brother and sister, again, especially if one or both parties aspire to receiving holy communion.<br /><br />The document is like a fine glass of wine with just a drop of ... which makes it unsuitable for consumption?.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-73188641822497153812016-04-14T10:55:14.070-04:002016-04-14T10:55:14.070-04:00I don't think it is "hysterical" to ...I don't think it is "hysterical" to have real concerns over this document. If no doctrine has changed, per Fr Fessio and others, or if this letter is non-magesterial, as Cardinal Burke has said, then how is it that Archbishop Cupich, the Phillipines bishops conference, the chief editor of Osservatore Romano and other persons of authority have all basically said that everyone should receive communion and no one should ever be denied? Conscience and mercy trump everything, including the Catechism and JPII's magisterium. Out the window goes the clear moral rule, set forth in the Catechism and Familiaris Consortio, that one should not partake of the Eucharist if one is in a state of objective sin without purpose of amendment, such as divorced and remarried without living as brother and sister (and of course practicing homosexual couples, which is ultimately for whom all the striving of the heresiarchs is for). People's subjective malformed conscience or a lack of understanding of the purpose of or disagreement with the moral doctrine of the Church now mean that one is not in mortal sin and can receive the Eucharist, per the Pope's most wicked little footnote. This will in practice and ultimately in theory be the end of Catholic moral teaching, the Sacrament of Penance, St Paul's stricture that one should not take the Eucharist unworthily, and indeed the concept of mortal sin itself. And what a slap in the face by the Church for those trying to live chastely in accordance with Church teachings! In a few years, the moral teachings will be dead letters, still mentioned as a forgotten "ideal" in dusty books on the shelf, but never spoken of and never acted upon. And this is precisely what Father Martin SJ and the other dissenting Jesuits are aiming for. You can insult me all you want, just as your beloved Pope constantly insults every day people who actually believe in the teachings of the Faith, but that does not mean that such destruction of the Church shouldn't be decried. The Church is Christ's, not the private plaything of some Marxist faux humble Jesuit who happens to be Pope!Charles Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-43932699982171192922016-04-14T09:25:42.381-04:002016-04-14T09:25:42.381-04:00Fr. Fessio is a class act and always worth listeni...Fr. Fessio is a class act and always worth listening to.TJMnoreply@blogger.com