tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post6514769018295005102..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: TO SING THE ORDINARY FORM MASS, OR, TOO SING THE ORDINARY FORM MASS?Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-82202285968956644512020-12-28T10:16:42.439-05:002020-12-28T10:16:42.439-05:00The Divine Liturgy is chanted in entirety. As suc...The Divine Liturgy is chanted in entirety. As such, you acclimate to singing for long periods such that becomes second nature. I can cantor the responses, antiphons, epistle, creed, hymns and panachida (memorial service that be held after the ambon prayer) going about 1 hr 20/30 mins before my voice really starts to tire. For liturgies of this length, I always hope for a longer homily to be able to dissolve a cough drop! If done well, it should sound like a seamless exchange between the priest/deacon and the people. <br /><br />I've heard the OF eucharistic prayer, III I believe, chanted (with the tower bell ringing) and to my Byzantine ear, I quite liked it. Not sure everyone in attendance felt that way but, many might not have been used to hearing "Take, eat, this is my body etc." being sung. ByzRushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11543580976814745615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-19441115229327424212020-12-28T08:10:54.633-05:002020-12-28T08:10:54.633-05:00Anonymous MM
Gregorian chant is often marketed as...Anonymous MM<br /><br />Gregorian chant is often marketed as 'mood music' and is quite often played softly in European churches in order to provide am 'ambience' for visiting tourists. Go to Mass there and it will be conspicuous by its absence.<br /><br />I find this disturbing, since Gregorian chant gives priority to the text and loses its raison d'etre when divorced from its liturgical context.John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-78828659962600613932020-12-27T02:19:09.053-05:002020-12-27T02:19:09.053-05:00I second JR's comments. The Proclamation of t...I second JR's comments. The Proclamation of the Birth of Christ is thrilling! It sets the birth of Christ squarely in history. This should be solemnly chanted by a single cantor just before the Midnight Mass of the Nativity in every Catholic church. It is done around here in some of the Churches in Portland, Oregon. It should be done everywhere! The Announcement of Easter and Moveable Feasts is not quite as thrilling to me because we can all follow these things on calendars which we all have now. Still, it is an ancient and venerable custom. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-48383713636495120892020-12-26T22:10:07.241-05:002020-12-26T22:10:07.241-05:00About a year ago I googled : Gregorian chant. I th...About a year ago I googled : Gregorian chant. I then narrowed the search to : healing Gregorian chant. What I found was amazing and beautiful and often since I have listened to healing Gregorian chants coming from my phone on the table beside my bed in the lead up to falling asleep.<br /><br />MM.<br /><br />PS in the comments section under the YouTube clips of Gregorian chant I have been pleasantly surprised to read Protestants, Buddhists, Muslims and even agnostics and so on acknowledging something especially holy and spiritual and universal etc in most Gregorian chant music.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-55537495266086349252020-12-26T17:06:07.409-05:002020-12-26T17:06:07.409-05:00I wish sometime some parish would have the cantor ...I wish sometime some parish would have the cantor do the Proclamation of Christmas that's in the Missal that few are even aware is in there in an appendix. And on Epiphany The Announcement of Easter and the Moveable Feasts. But again, the pastor has to actually know they're in there in Appendix I and want to do them.JRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-18124844086835589392020-12-26T15:19:37.360-05:002020-12-26T15:19:37.360-05:00When the new ICEL translation arrived in 2011 I do...When the new ICEL translation arrived in 2011 I downloaded the chant version and sang it through to myself, including the lessons (the ICEL website shows you how to point the readings in the most commonly used English versions). It was an interesting experience and I wondered whether at least some of the fabricators of the Novus Ordo were thinking along these lines.<br /><br />How many lay readers would be able or willing to chant the first two lessons? Not many, I suspect. The reason for cantillation is that it makes the words understandable in a large space, but it can be argued that the microphone makes up for this.<br /><br />Be that as it may, chanting the Gospel on major feasts has much to recommend it.John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-63524767396165267412020-12-26T13:28:52.162-05:002020-12-26T13:28:52.162-05:00Wow! I love your Parochial Vicar! If only all pri...Wow! I love your Parochial Vicar! If only all priests would do that! And to chant the entire genealogy of the Lord is spectacular! I believe that this is always done in the Eastern rites. Chanting like this moves the Romans closer to their Eastern brothers. Also, the priest puts on special garments to offer the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass; why not also put on special vocal vesture: chant the Mass! The ritual is so much more beautiful that way. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-5825887336608061302020-12-26T13:13:50.418-05:002020-12-26T13:13:50.418-05:00Bee here:
WHENEVER the Mass or parts thereof take...Bee here:<br /><br />WHENEVER the Mass or parts thereof takes on a "performance" feeling, instead of true worship of God, it is off-putting. <br /><br />I watched the Christmas Eve EF Solemn High Mass livestream from St. John Cantius and at the end of the Mass, the lights were turned almost completely off, and the exiting procession was accompanied by a very quiet and solemn sounding "Silent Night" which was sung by the Canons who acted as choir, with accompaniment by a single violin (one of our priests has a Masters in Music and is an accomplished violinist). It was beautiful and all, but it turned me off, because it was so much like a performance. I was sorry. And I think it reflects the loss of the guidance of what "restoring the sacred" means from Fr. Frank Phillips.<br /><br />It seems whatever is chosen among the options available at Mass, the motive should always be the worship of God, and done solely for His greater glory.<br /><br />God bless.<br />BeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-41756471935267543022020-12-26T12:17:33.067-05:002020-12-26T12:17:33.067-05:00You can make it better if the priest turn toward t...You can make it better if the priest turn toward the Lord. But it is still not perfect. God deserves better. As far as homily, unless it deals with the great issues of our time in some important way, abstract theological discourse is worse than useless. Homilies tailored to children should be substantially the same as given to adults. Good Christian education, I was once a child and know what I am talking about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-8888917815476874612020-12-26T09:42:19.656-05:002020-12-26T09:42:19.656-05:00What is an "academic homily?"What is an "academic homily?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com