tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post5291938894261550774..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: ANOTHER POPE FRANCIS BOMBSHELL! HOLY FATHER EXCOMMUNICATES AUSTRIAN "WE ARE CHURCH" HETERODOX LEADER!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-76545502410293704712014-05-24T16:03:40.689-04:002014-05-24T16:03:40.689-04:00Gene, LOL! Of course an auto-de-fe would have to b...Gene, LOL! Of course an auto-de-fe would have to be in the EF, since V2 didn't come up with a Novus Ordo form.John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-27982849448229795672014-05-23T21:41:04.595-04:002014-05-23T21:41:04.595-04:00Certainty
I wish we could still requisition
A visi...Certainty<br />I wish we could still requisition<br />A visit from the Inquisition.<br />Thumb screws and racks<br />For heresy hacks<br />And no doubts of the Church's position.Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-82873554995032345032014-05-23T21:33:11.850-04:002014-05-23T21:33:11.850-04:00Ah, John, you warm my heart…Tina Beattie in flames...Ah, John, you warm my heart…Tina Beattie in flames, stakes through the heart, a huge auto de fe at St. Peter's…now, that's what I'm talking' about...Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-30077640832948261802014-05-23T19:14:44.777-04:002014-05-23T19:14:44.777-04:00Gene, if HK goes ahead with his intention and rend...Gene, if HK goes ahead with his intention and renders himself felo de se, perhaps we can revive a traditional practice and bury him at a crossroads with a stake through his heart. Talking of stakes, in a more robust age he would no doubt have been chained to one and consigned to the flames along with his heretical writings.<br /><br />Come to think of it, I can think of quite a few candidates for a grand auto-de-fe in St Peter's Square. Tina Beattie might look quite fetching in a sanbenito.John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-38593199016980586892014-05-23T12:21:52.435-04:002014-05-23T12:21:52.435-04:00I can't understand this post as it is not in E...I can't understand this post as it is not in English. The original German would make more sense. Most excommunications are latae sententiae and so those who incur this penalty actually excommunicate themselves. The local Ordinary or the Holy See would only need to make this public if there is a danger that the faithful be led astray.<br /><br />A woman who procures an abortion incurs a latae sententiae excommunication but this is not 'reserved to the Holy See' and may be lifted, subject to the usual conditions, by the bishop or even by her confessor. Excommunication is more a medicine than a punishment, and excommunicated persons are still obliged to hear Holy Mass, although they may not receive the Sacrament.John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-59324859589695787892014-05-23T06:31:11.058-04:002014-05-23T06:31:11.058-04:00I think Kung's funeral will be at the Methodis...I think Kung's funeral will be at the Methodist church, won't it? LOL!Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-24978342899621275192014-05-22T21:37:06.834-04:002014-05-22T21:37:06.834-04:00Also, what are the odds this woman will officiate ...Also, what are the odds this woman will officiate at Kung's funeral? rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-92015049116914625382014-05-22T18:16:59.742-04:002014-05-22T18:16:59.742-04:00Yikes. There is a similar case in Cincinnati. Wo...Yikes. There is a similar case in Cincinnati. Wonder if he is expecting the bishop to follow his lead?rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-35995411188427571522014-05-22T13:06:48.607-04:002014-05-22T13:06:48.607-04:00...well, the translation may not be so great, but ......well, the translation may not be so great, but at least it's a refresher in German word order. As a bit of a language geek, this takes me back to my undergrad years. Good times, good times.<br /><br />The thing about any ecclesial theology similar to "We Are Church" is precisely what Bobby has pointed out: God did not give authority to every believer. He didn't in the Old Testament, and He didn't in the New, either. <br /><br />It was also God Who formed and forms His people, gathering them unto Himself, in both Old and New Testaments. And in both, He also forms His priesthood-- nobody just decides to becomes a priest, just cuz they wanna (and those who presumed to usurp or grab an authority not given to them usually wound up cut off from the people or even dead). And even when disciples had a problem with the way Christ was operating, because they were not seeing and thinking as God sees and thinks, He either let them go, said that they were being a stumbling block to Him, or challenged them with "what is it to you?" We are no Church without Christ, but/and He builds His Church in particular ways that are His own business.<br /><br />Neither the People Israel nor the Body of Christ are start-ups born of the voluntary initiatives of individual believers, but a response to a call that comes from the outside. And the thing about being "amazed and afraid" before the wondrous mystery of "I AM," is that we couldn't make any of this up if we tried. God is way too strange, and that's a good thing. But we believe so that we may understand, which means that we engage and are engaged: God may be strange, and it may take sinners like us some time to see what He's up to due to our imperfections, afflictions, and overall limitations, but that doesn't make Him illogical and incoherent, either.<br /><br />Moreover, "We are Church," or "forget the Church, follow Jesus," etc. goes hand in hand with a lack of any sense of continuity, and how biblical supercessionism is a very real problem (note, for example, all the common and widespread presumptions that pit "nicey-nice Jesus" against "nasty Jehovah" when "I and the Father are one"). WSquarednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-45880356977306351262014-05-22T12:27:14.952-04:002014-05-22T12:27:14.952-04:00If Pope Francis himself excommunicated these peopl...If Pope Francis himself excommunicated these people and not a dicastery of the Roman Curia and not the local bishop, then it is quite significant. Popes *rarely* excommunicate personally. Even the SSPX bishops were not excommunicated personally by S.JPII.Cameronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-42528876806147049692014-05-22T12:24:20.298-04:002014-05-22T12:24:20.298-04:00There needs to be a whole lot more of this.There needs to be a whole lot more of this.Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-23418548204150248662014-05-22T11:52:29.584-04:002014-05-22T11:52:29.584-04:00Actually, I believe it is the local bishop who &qu...Actually, I believe it is the local bishop who "excommunicates" - not the Pope, so the headline, with all its implications is somewhat misleading.Bill Hobbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10134670944420445567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-30659812846670357512014-05-22T10:06:49.800-04:002014-05-22T10:06:49.800-04:00Yes, I pray it creates shivers down the spines of ...Yes, I pray it creates shivers down the spines of those who want to be a part of the Church but are too proud to accept that Christ did NOT give authority to every believer! Its about time Catholics wake up and stop being Protestants with a Pope, claim the uniqueness of Catholicism and, return with love and humility toward Christ in the manner HE intended and not in the way WE intend!Bobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00532083333700740173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-69891826808018181602014-05-22T09:51:09.649-04:002014-05-22T09:51:09.649-04:00This won't be very good news for the dissentin...This won't be very good news for the dissenting priests' movement in Austria and should send shivers up and down the spines of those who are trying to make the Church into a heterodox institution. Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.com