tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post5273677643199686066..comments2024-03-28T18:02:12.286-04:00Comments on southern orders: WHEN IS TOO MUCH MONEY SPENT ON CHURCH PROJECTS TOO MUCH MONEY?Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-18088124652806430912014-04-10T17:26:32.766-04:002014-04-10T17:26:32.766-04:00The day I find myself in a parish where things are...The day I find myself in a parish where things are open to a vote by all parishioners, I will shake the dust from my shoes and move on.<br /><br />You have parish committees and councils for a reason. If they approved, then so be it. The altar rail will be of benefit to all who attend Mass at your parish, and for decades. Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00858195676825602917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-42118276342970359652014-04-09T16:17:18.556-04:002014-04-09T16:17:18.556-04:00Recently I had a parishioner who said we shouldn&#...<i>Recently I had a parishioner who said we shouldn't spend anymore money on our historic church building. He doesn't like that we are restoring the altar railing. He says the money should be given to the poor and that I should have put the entire project up to a vote parish wide, like some (not all) Protestant denominations do.</i><br /><br />I don't know the individual parishioner, so I don't presume to judge his heart, much less his soul. That said, this particular attitude-- and complaint-- is pretty common, and needs addressing: consider Oscar Wilde's definition of a cynic-- one who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.<br /><br />We arguably live in a highly cynical culture, where oftentimes people will assess the value of something primarily by how much they paid for it-- but "a fool and his money are soon to be parted."<br /><br /><i>Of course I could have told him to go and sell all he has and give it to the poor and then come and be a parishioner.</i><br /><br />It may have been a good thing that you didn't, but still. Might not have been a wholly bad teachable moment, either. That kind of complaint has a long history among fundamentalists, and is often an excuse for something else. Moreover, I find it quite peculiar that tons of "stuff" and nicer things means that God favors <i>you</i> (as per Prosperity Gospel logic), but <i>Catholic</i> churches with rich artwork accessible to everyone necessarily means that Catholics are greedy and don't want to help the poor? Yeah, okay. <br /><br />The average Catholic in the U.S. often does pick up what the larger culture throws down-- including what that culture codes as "Christian," whether it actually is Christian or not.<br /><br /><i>And then I was given two checks, one for the altar railing and the other for our Family Advancement Ministries. That gave us exactly what we need and even a little more to repair a leak high up in the church building by one of our rose windows which will require scaffolding to repair.</i><br /><br />Father, you did what you thought right and just, didn't treat it lightly, and you received a hundredfold in return. If your bedroom is used for sleeping and also insomnia at times, you don't sound like someone who is imprudent about stewardship.<br /><br />No matter what you do, <i>somebody</i> will complain. A great bit of a choir-leadership advice I read elsewhere applies here and in life in general: do what is right and just, and if somebody complains, then wow. Like, <i>oh noes</i>.WSquarednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-77403651835905497792014-04-09T10:26:52.516-04:002014-04-09T10:26:52.516-04:00"For where your treasure is, there your heart..."For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."<br />Matt 6:21Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-31391436161902387732014-04-09T08:48:04.632-04:002014-04-09T08:48:04.632-04:00Money is spent at the "leadership" of th...Money is spent at the "leadership" of the pastor, quickness, and never without consulting the various committees involved, pastoral council (which in 2004 unanimously approved of the renovation of the church with its accoutrements as well as the finance council of the parish, the finance council of the diocese and the bishop himself. <br />Now I don't begrudge people not liking this or that or the other and certainly they are free not to give to any project they think extravagant. But how in the name of God and all that is holy can they justify their stinginess at the expense of parishioners who do give and do so generously and without complaining. That is what is beyond me and a sign of how poorly formed some of our Catholics are as it concerns stewardship and generosity. To think that some parishioners criticize other parishioners who are generous! I am scandalized by it! Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-75271774232141929862014-04-09T08:14:34.418-04:002014-04-09T08:14:34.418-04:00First of all, I always refer to decisions of paris...First of all, I always refer to decisions of parish councils (pastoral or finance) as recommendations (e.g. "the PPC voted to recommend that the parish priest do the following...) This makes it clear that the parish priest or diocesan bishops makes final decisions, acting as the shepherd of the flock. <br /><br />Secondly, people who do not wish to lavish the house of God with our hard earned riches are simply stingy people. There's plenty of wealth in the world: to place our first fruits at the service of divine worship, to assist the poor, and to live comfortably but simply ourselves. God first, the poor second, and ourselves last. It's that simple. Rood Screenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09816036539243214384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-64757374887726047332014-04-09T08:09:23.469-04:002014-04-09T08:09:23.469-04:00I would advise a bit of caution. For some, the phr...I would advise a bit of caution. For some, the phrase, "perception is reality," comes to mind. It may appear as unnecessary and the vain fashion of the pastor and not for the glory of God or the benefit of the parishioner. I have heard grumblings on other expenses (rose marble and candle holders), following a big renovation, liturgical quips (latin) when a new translation of the missal was already happening, about the sabbatical/vacation. Plus the campaign for the new gym and A/C, warranted or not. Albeit these quibbles were from rather secular catholics but there seems to be degrees of catholicity. The "perception" is A LOT of money is being spent at the whim of the pastor. I heard, "again?" "another one?" "What next?" "when will it end?" "why?" So do what you got to do but be mindful of those less than enthused about this than you. qwiknesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15439450727837308035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-57640824317335891892014-04-09T07:23:31.769-04:002014-04-09T07:23:31.769-04:00What is the word; benefit? You may be thinking &#...What is the word; benefit? You may be thinking 'feed' and may also be thinking 'food', or perhaps shelter; even medicine. How much has been spent on those things already? Are the poor invited to kneel at this rail in the presence of God Almighty? Isn't that a gift, too? And for a sum that is pretty much a fixed cost far less than the ongoing cost of food, shelter, and medicine. This is a more vital feeding, sheltering and healing, I think. rcghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131930849106490711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-86609918449690646712014-04-09T06:36:33.590-04:002014-04-09T06:36:33.590-04:00This is a non-issue. Tell the parishioner to sell ...This is a non-issue. Tell the parishioner to sell his house and possessions and give them to the poor.<br />The "poor" in this country are, by and large, a bottomless pit of unproductive, demanding, resentful, obnoxious, pampered, violent and destructive government protected and promoted undesirables. They have long been nothing more than a political tool of the Left used to destroy free-enterprise and drain the resources of the responsible working population. Yes, the truly poor need help, but the media darling poor are a pain in the butt.<br />And, you worry about an altar rail when the Bishop of Atlanta just sold a 2.2 million dollar rectory only because of publicity. Please. Have you figured out how to keep the EMHCs from falling over the altar rail yet? Maybe we should have an EMHC assistant for each of the EMHCs. They could wear a different color stole. Or a "rail monitor" with a yellow stole for caution.<br />The Church is supposed to be a fore shadowing of the glories of Heaven and a testimony to the glory and majesty of God. Quit feeling guilty about it.Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.com