tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post410096118166730141..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: CATHOLIC SELF-LOATHING, TERROR OF PRE-VATICAN II CATHOLIC IDENTITY AND THE LOSS OF THE PRE-VATICAN II CATHOLIC IDENTITY THAT WAS THE BACKBONE OF THE CHURCH IN THE USA AND AROUND THE WORLDFr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-85779744370906258982012-04-28T10:33:23.819-04:002012-04-28T10:33:23.819-04:00This is powerful stuff because it is true. Growing...This is powerful stuff because it is true. Growing up in the Chicago Archdiocese, I clearly recall what a shock Vatican II was. Our Cardinal John Cody resisited all VatII precepts until a direct decree from Rome prevented denial of it any more. It was obvious to all that the new system was heresy. Look at holy orders since then. Frankly, I think the number of men entering the priesthood is fueled by a great many who see it as a sanctuary from economic reality rather than a calling, while women are more accepted in the business world, which has caused the number of new nuns to plummet. And what about those supposedly stodgy, grumpy, child swatting old ladies? The ones I knew were some of the happiest, cleverest, most wonderful and inspiring people I have ever known. They loved to have fun in truly godly ways. They taught me how to clearly, humbly walk in the light of Christ. They endured sufferings like wearing habits and black wool in oppressive heat with a remarkable sense of joy. Exactly who made the rule that "you can't go back to the old ways" as a religion or a society?? Certainly not God; obviously it's satan's minions of secularists unknowingly doing his will in the style described so succinctly by Khruschev as: "useful idiots."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-47450050424532848512012-04-15T11:51:21.589-04:002012-04-15T11:51:21.589-04:00Nuns in habit and Priests in Cassock is a beautifu...Nuns in habit and Priests in Cassock is a beautiful external sign of Catholic identity. Walking down the street seeing them illicits a smile or perhaps a conversation for a bit of their time and advice. Or even a quick prayer from us lay folk for their religious life and health. All this goes lost when they look like everyone else. I agree that the externals are just that, the externals, and is not what determines how good a nun or Priest is. BUT externals are not only for the religious, they help and inspire the lay Faithful in a sense of unity. We feel not so alone when living in a big city and may run across a nun or Priest on a city street or subway. It also reminds one of their faith in a moment when one may not be thinking about it. Suddenly, there it is, in habit, right in front of you, without words. Brings the Faith the the forefront of the mind. How can wearing a habit do anything but help bring the Faith constantly to our minds. Some would say, we don't need habits to do this, or at least we shouldn't. Well, the hard fact are we do. Most people would not re-decorate the interior of their homes with beauty and elegance and leave the external, outside to look like a shambles. It wouldn't make sense. The external should match the internal. If you like traditional or colonial furnishings, you wouldn't live in a house made or glass or really modern on the outside, they would clash. Same goes for habits.Gregorian Massnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-87017006450269187122012-04-14T15:25:47.840-04:002012-04-14T15:25:47.840-04:00The SSPX sent their response on Wednesday.The SSPX sent their response on Wednesday.ytcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-57367048647251757562012-04-14T11:31:23.872-04:002012-04-14T11:31:23.872-04:00Vianney1100 has an interesting point. The most so...Vianney1100 has an interesting point. The most solid objection to Vat-II is that it being interpreted in many different ways. SSPX is a conservative and relatively recent variation on that idea. The Liberals took the lead on the interpretation and seized the initiative proclaiming not only what was allowed, but what should be done. We now know they were at least half wrong. People are looking to the Vatican to help interpret Vat-II and help find the line that constitutes abuse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-29821894992204410012012-04-14T10:24:54.266-04:002012-04-14T10:24:54.266-04:00Regarding the four points to which SSPX objects: I...Regarding the four points to which SSPX objects: I actually have a discussion of why this is a potential crisis for the entire Church (not merely SSPX) and open invitation to help resolve the problem on my own blog, which I invite everyone here to consider. The address is http://cemeterypicnic.blogspot.com/2012/04/open-invitation-to-all-comers-to.htmlHammer of Fascistshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08647227447212096501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-7954044164159457522012-04-14T09:15:35.860-04:002012-04-14T09:15:35.860-04:00Father,
You do not exaggerate. Our pastor shows ...Father, <br />You do not exaggerate. Our pastor shows nothing but hostility towards the EF and calls it "Hitler's Mass". The photos are funny, but they also demonstrate the deep attitudes that we are up against. <br /><br />"Liberals" and "Progressives" are digging in their heels deeper than ever because they are at least awake enough to see their version of the Church is slipping away quickly. If and when the agreement with the SSPX is reached, liberal priests will probably handle it the same way they handled the promulgation of <em>Summorum Pontificum</em>: They will ignore it and never speak of it. If you bring it up to them they will get angry and dismiss it as some "private thing" between the pope and some "extremist Catholics" that the next pope, their long hoped-for liberal (who never gets elected, thanks be to God) will reverse.<br /><br />Prayer and sacrifice. Now more than ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-17295753778662651192012-04-14T08:46:57.388-04:002012-04-14T08:46:57.388-04:00Father,
You summed up the attitudes toward Vatican...Father,<br />You summed up the attitudes toward Vatican II nicely. I agree with your 5% figure compared to what progressives would think if they actually read the documents of Vatican II. Therein lies the problem, progressives rely on what they think the Council said, not what it actually said. <br /><br />As for the SSPX side, I have read Vatican II and just got done rereading the sections that they have a disagreement with and I can't find anything in there that is objectionable. I can only surmise that they are interpreting it wrongly. However, I don't have the previous documents that they are comparing them to. Could you elaborate further on their exact objections and the specific lines in Vatican II that they don't like?Vianney1100https://www.blogger.com/profile/03476639755738480190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-5412153245715597512012-04-14T08:42:59.806-04:002012-04-14T08:42:59.806-04:00I didn't see it until you pointed it out, but ...I didn't see it until you pointed it out, but it must be a notebook or the dreaded ruler!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-5992683702868027612012-04-14T08:11:32.773-04:002012-04-14T08:11:32.773-04:00Third photo down, Second nun from the left: is tha...Third photo down, Second nun from the left: is that 45 ACP in her hand?<br /><br />rcgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com