tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post2901241424096752935..comments2024-03-28T12:59:52.914-04:00Comments on southern orders: POPE TO THEOLOGIANS BOMBSHELL! SENSUS FIDELIUM IS NOT, IS NOT, IS NOT MAJORITY OPINION!!!!Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-719991671522592122013-12-08T15:55:23.494-05:002013-12-08T15:55:23.494-05:00Sorry, George, I only saw your comment after I had...Sorry, George, I only saw your comment after I had submitted mine. Quite right!Anonymous 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-52454431047072793522013-12-08T15:52:43.056-05:002013-12-08T15:52:43.056-05:00By the way, Anonymous, before you dismiss George’s...By the way, Anonymous, before you dismiss George’s point so cavalierly, can you please also explain to us why sexual behavior should be on the table for purposes of magisterial moral evaluation but economic behavior shouldn’t? I hope you have not fallen victim to the pernicious modernist fallacy that the dismal science is somehow amoral.Anonymous 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-61638931088724510562013-12-08T15:39:09.241-05:002013-12-08T15:39:09.241-05:00The Holy Father can speak to economic issues as it...The Holy Father can speak to economic issues as it concerns the human condition.<br />If he were to come out with explicit instructions on how monetary policy should be implemented, then one could more properly call into question his lack of formal education and training in that area. <br />One need not have a law degree, say, to speak in support of the right to legal counsel for the poor. <br /><br />So it is likewise when he speaks about abortion, embryonic stem cell research and other issues where there is a moral dimension attached.<br /><br />Note that the Holy Father in Evangelium Gaudium said this also:<br /><br /><br />" This Exhortation is not a social document, and for reflection<br />on those different themes we have a most suitable tool in the<br />Compendium of the Social Doctrine of<br />the Church, whose use and study I heartily recomend. <br />Furthermore, neither the Pope nor the Church have a monopoly on the interpretation of social realities or the proposal of solutions to<br />contemporary problems. Here I can repeat the insightful observation of Pope Paul VI: “In the<br />face of such widely varying situations, it is difficult<br />for us to utter a unified message and to put forward a solution which has universal validity.<br />This is not our ambition, nor is it our mission.<br />It is up to the Christian communities to analyze<br />with objectivity the situation which is proper to their own country”.<br />Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-81244931164757150842013-12-08T15:21:28.485-05:002013-12-08T15:21:28.485-05:00Anonymous: “Reason isn't based on feelings or ...Anonymous: “Reason isn't based on feelings or emotion my friend but by educated thought.”<br /><br />This is a fine sentiment, although one must also recognize the appropriate place of feelings and emotions, as of course did Plato.<br /><br />Putting that particular quibble aside, however, we now look forward to some educated thought as you respond to my questions.<br />Anonymous 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-31784520686827509932013-12-08T10:27:47.201-05:002013-12-08T10:27:47.201-05:00"Father should not speak to issues such as co..."Father should not speak to issues such as contraception and abortion since he does not have a Medical degree.He should likewise not speak to issues about war since he does not have the necessary training and background."<br /><br />Really that is how you refute a position. Go back and study Plato and learn how to put together a reasoned response, your refutation makes no logical sense. Make a Venn Diagram and you will see. Reason isn't based on feelings or emotion my friend but by educated thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-45376202176535862492013-12-08T06:59:42.025-05:002013-12-08T06:59:42.025-05:00Anon, I often agree with you and share your concer...Anon, I often agree with you and share your concerns. You do bring it a bit strong sometimes. I would like for you to address Anon 2's questions. Personally, I think Pope Francis understands Catholic theology just fine…it is his interpretation of it that sometimes frightens me.<br /><br />I agree that he does not need to be playing economist.Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-47120950608679456652013-12-08T06:00:01.982-05:002013-12-08T06:00:01.982-05:00Anon Friend,
Very true!
Philosopher: A blind ma...Anon Friend, <br /> Very true!<br /><br />Philosopher: A blind man looking for a black cat at midnight.<br /><br />Theologian: A blind man looking for a black cat at midnight who finds it.<br /><br />There is indeed much presumption in theology, but it is a struggle we have to pursue. If viewed properly, it should be the most humbling pursuit.<br /><br />Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672484450736725268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-30367984523917642042013-12-07T22:31:00.537-05:002013-12-07T22:31:00.537-05:00So right Anonymous2
Using Anonymous' argument,...So right Anonymous2<br />Using Anonymous' argument, the Holy<br />Father should not speak to issues such as contraception and abortion since he does not have a Medical degree.He should likewise not speak to issues about war since he does not have the necessary training and background.Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-88577476821540862272013-12-07T20:33:19.788-05:002013-12-07T20:33:19.788-05:00I will answer your question, Anonymous. I care, an...I will answer your question, Anonymous. I care, and so should anyone who claims to be Catholic.<br /><br />And now I have some questions for you. First, what is it precisely that Pope Francis “clearly” does not understand about economics? <br /><br />Second, how do Pope Francis’s views on economics differ from those of Pope Benedict in his encyclical “Caritas in Veritate”?:<br /><br />http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20090629_caritas-in-veritate_en.html<br /><br />Third, if their views do not differ significantly, does Benedict get a pass from you, because, you know, he is Benedict, or is he also just as dumb as Francis in your opinion?<br /><br />Oh, and by the way, perhaps you can also enlighten us regarding precisely what the Pope does not understand about Catholic theology.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymous 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-28233516220097128222013-12-07T17:41:11.157-05:002013-12-07T17:41:11.157-05:00Who cares what he says anymore? He clearly knows n...Who cares what he says anymore? He clearly knows nothing about economics yet thinks he can tell the world how entire financial systems should be run. He clearly doesn't' understand Catholic theology at all. He needs to learn that the entire world isn't Argentina and Evita has long since bit the dust.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-88274980198447156662013-12-06T18:38:05.329-05:002013-12-06T18:38:05.329-05:00Father, you and the Holy Father used "theolog...Father, you and the Holy Father used "theologian" and "humility" in the same sentence...oxymoron par excellence!Anon friendnoreply@blogger.com