tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post1882420923941418230..comments2024-03-28T20:30:10.681-04:00Comments on southern orders: JUST WHAT IS THERE TO SEE WITH MASS FACING THE PEOPLE?Fr. Allan J. McDonaldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16986575955114152639noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-3022718207232561652017-10-22T20:00:10.516-04:002017-10-22T20:00:10.516-04:00Henry, these are scenes from St. Joseph's in M...Henry, these are scenes from St. Joseph's in Macon.Genenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-31413117339251001522017-10-22T08:54:18.413-04:002017-10-22T08:54:18.413-04:00Gene: "What is there to see with Mass facing ...Gene: "What is there to see with Mass facing the people..."<br /><br />I didn't realize you worshiped with unwashed heathen like those you describe. You should try worshiping with real Catholics sometime.Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12780755069760197497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-39787304622189494642017-10-20T20:48:16.399-04:002017-10-20T20:48:16.399-04:00Really, aside from the elevations and in light of ...Really, aside from the elevations and in light of the elimination of the multiple signs of the cross, there isn't much to see. While I don't care for the "showing" of the elements with a 180 degree sweep done by some priests before the words of institution, I appreciate that many are attempting to make it meaningful by their interpretation of the word. This posture fails, even with the addition of the Benedictine Arrangement as the distinction between addressing the people and addressing our Lord becomes muddled (drive the bus vs. face the passengers on the bus). But, this is the Roman reality except for small pockets here and there where tradition is maintained. ByzRushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11543580976814745615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-68826979177129474682017-10-20T10:48:04.281-04:002017-10-20T10:48:04.281-04:00Gene,
and to think "progressives" were ...Gene,<br /><br />and to think "progressives" were upset by little old ladies saying the rosary at Mass in the old days!!! TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-65195282309505276712017-10-20T06:51:16.289-04:002017-10-20T06:51:16.289-04:00What is there to see with Mass facing the people.....What is there to see with Mass facing the people...scruffy looking jeans, cut-offs, tie-dyed t-shirts, booty shorts on women, skirts so short that the moths have to settle for eating flesh, cleavage (lots), couples making out (not kidding), men with their hands on women's butts, women with their hands on mens butts, people talking on cell phones, people stroking and poking I Phones, kids playing games on their phones, people chewing gum, people drinking from personalized water bottles, people reading novels, people engaged in spirited conversations (especially during the homily), kids roaming the aisles, kids crawling under pews, fashion disasters of numerous kinds, and people sleeping. "The Lord is in His Holy Temple, let all the earth keep silent before Him...."Genenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-23032104115734800512017-10-19T17:28:50.158-04:002017-10-19T17:28:50.158-04:00Anonymous @ 1:20 PM
In answer to your questions:
...Anonymous @ 1:20 PM<br /><br />In answer to your questions:<br /><br />(1) All of them. They were told to do so, and Paul VI modelled it on Lent I 1965, using a common table erected outside the sanctuary.<br />(2) We have no evidence. But in classical times everyone was at the same side of the table at mealtimes.<br />(3) The Roman Rite traditionally has two readings. But on the ferias of Lent the first reading is taken from the OT and is usually far more lengthy than anything in the NO Lectionary. On Ember days several OT reading are used.<br />(4) Yes.<br />John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-34623367710696584952017-10-19T16:59:36.075-04:002017-10-19T16:59:36.075-04:00ask yourself why bishops and cardinals are resisti...ask yourself why bishops and cardinals are resisting it and in some cases forbidding it? Because they are left-wing loons who have no love of the liturgical tradition.TJMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-30384684838602402872017-10-19T15:15:48.608-04:002017-10-19T15:15:48.608-04:00From the National Catholic Register article:
&quo...From the National Catholic Register article:<br /><br />"Father Faulkner was not always a supporter of the ad orientem posture. He “intensely” resisted the idea of Mass ad orientem during his time in seminary, and only gradually came to accept the arguments for it."<br /><br />Why would a Catholic resist "intensely" an ancient liturgical tradition that the Church maintains and promotes as an important practice that is rich in spiritual benefits for the Holy People of God? Ad orientem worship is part of Father Faulkner's spiritual heritage.<br /><br />In 1996 A.D., Rome issued the following in regard to the importance of ad orientem prayer and worship:<br /><br />http://www.ewtn.com/library/curia/eastinst.htm<br /><br />Confer: #107. "Prayer facing the east."<br /><br />The Apostolic See declared that ad orientem prayer and worship is "of profound value and should be safeguarded."<br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark ThomasMark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-31960394639615435192017-10-19T13:20:17.609-04:002017-10-19T13:20:17.609-04:00Questions:
(1) what bishops back then pushed the c...Questions:<br />(1) what bishops back then pushed the change in the position of the altar, whether here in US or in the Vatican?<br />(2) in the early days of the Church---before we had churches (buildings), was Mass every celebrated facing the people---like in homes?<br />(3) am I correct in the Latin Mass, there was an Epistle and Gospel reading, but no Old Testament reading? And why was the "Last Gospel" dropped?<br />(4) could you celebrate Mass in your current main sanctuary facing away from the people, without prior permission from the bishop?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7846189835239594160.post-67008732114101754042017-10-19T09:41:17.232-04:002017-10-19T09:41:17.232-04:00This young priest should be commended, doing what ...This young priest should be commended, doing what so many of his elder priests (and loser bishops) refuse to do. Deo gratias. I almost walked out of a friend's funeral Mass this week because we were stuck with a Jolly Ollie Priest for whom the Liturgy was all about him. It was disgusting to behold. If he were saying Mass ad orientem, his lunacy would have been checked because who was he going to entertain, the Crucifix?TJMnoreply@blogger.com